Lets talk REALITY on the Corona virus economically for once

[georgephillip]

Just heard that any further announcement or government information put out by any federal government organization, regarding Coron Virus will have to be cleared by Mike Pence. Guess we are going back to top down management and information control. Good luck everybody.

Hopefully Mike's response is better than what he displayed during Indiana's opioid/HIV crisis:

“Pence Is Not a Medical Expert”: Is the Trump Admin Ready to Stop a U.S. Coronavirus Pandemic? | Democracy Now!

"Pence is not a medical expert, and he certainly is not someone who’s demonstrated particularly great amount of respect for science.

"When he was governor of the state of Indiana, the opioid crisis started in southern Indiana. And suddenly people were injecting opioids.

"He went to his god and came back and told the Legislature that he did not believe that any human being should receive sterile syringes to assist them in being a drug addict.

"His own Legislature countered him; he vetoed.

"Countered, vetoed.

"Meanwhile, according to a study published by Yale University, at least 250 people got infected with HIV as a result of this crazy policy."

Trump Taps Anti-Science Mike Pence To Lead U.S. Coronavirus Response

 

[CowboyTed]

Stupidity is more contagious and faster moving than this virus.

Rumors and conspiracy theories are almost as deadly as this virus.

Cut the shit!

What are the conspiracy theories?

COVID-19 was hatched in a Chinese lab and (accidentally) released.

Don't tell me you haven't heard that one!

Based on memos released by the Chinese government before the outbreak, it sounds like the most likely possibility.

Utter bullshit...

“There’s absolutely nothing in the genome sequence of this virus that indicates the virus was engineered,” said Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University. “The possibility this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

How about we deal with reality and not fantasy... This is the problem people have... Trump and his supporters live in fantasy and faced with something that meet that fantasy is deemed fake...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If the United States has a real outbreak, is that going to hurt us?

ANSWER-------->oh yes, absolutely, no doubt about it.

Is this virus going to hurt us economically, even without an outbreak in the USA?

Answer----------> Yes, our supply lines are tied to everyone, and everyone. New auto sales in China are down 92% since the outbreak, so our global company's are going to take a huge hit. May not like it, but facts are better than speculation, so plan accordingly.

Who is to blame?

ANSWER--------> REALLY, seriously? The human condition is to blame, unless you tie this virus to a country that purposely constructed it, then released it, for the purpose of screwing you, then look at your body and ask it what is up with this!

When will it end?

Either when a vaccine is released in 12 to 24 months, or when you realize that just like everything else in life, our survival from death, illness, or sickness, revolves around the PROFIT that someone can make from devising a solution. Those seeking BILLIONS, are feverishly working as I post, to save your lives. Those being forced to make nickels, are just taking their sweet a** time, as being first means absolutely nothing to them. Those seeking BILLIONS, may come in 4 months in advance of your death. Was it worth it to you and your family if you survive?

Is this political?

ANSWER-----------> Does a bear sh** in the woods? Of course it is!

Who was it that created the famous saying---------->never let a crisis go to waste!

Do any of the DNC phonies for President have massive healthcare knowledge? Does Donald J trump have any?

Of course not! The only thing we have is the best pharma industry in the world, and the race is on if they can beat this virus before you die; if you are one of the ones who WOULD die from its' effects. Does anyone on this board believe the odds are anywhere near good the solution is going to come from China, Venezuela, Cuba, or Russia? If any of you do, please post you will REFUSE to take an antidote from the USA, just on MORAL purposes, cause the USA sucks!

Now, I believe big pharma in the USA is screwing us, period! I believe the protection of big pharma by the government which forces us to pay more is anti American, and anti freedom of choice. We can NOT be held hostage by big pharma to SUBSIDIZE through price control, the solution to the worlds problems, just like our military can NOT create peace in the world through nation building and police action.

I believe the world has to PAY ITS FAIRSHARE for drugs that we come up with, just like it has to pay its FAIRSHARE for our protection of military force on their behave.

If we avoid this outbreak because of OUR pharma industry, enjoy it while you can, because with BERNARD, a solution would be faaaaaaaaar behind that which is coming. You might have to wait for China, or Cuba, or maybe Venezuela to fix it, and good luck with that!

Corona is going to cost American lives? Yeah, probably be. To deny that would make me a liar.

But who you do YOU want in the race to save your life, if you are one of those who might die? Want our crooked CAPITALISTIC people who come in 1st always, or want the SOCIALISTIC people who come in 2 to 3 years after, and only when they can steal the technology from us!

If, for political reasons, you have a hard time answering that question, then ask your family, who would have to go on without you!

The reality is that thanks to the fear from the virus the DJI is now back to about where it was on the day Trump started his 2nd year in office.

Not sure what georgephillip was laughing about, but at the close for the day, the DJI is now back to where it was on Jan 11, 2018. That is really not a good thing, in case you did not know.

 

[Siete]

Stupidity is more contagious and faster moving than this virus.

Rumors and conspiracy theories are almost as deadly as this virus.

Cut the shit!

What are the conspiracy theories?

COVID-19 was hatched in a Chinese lab and (accidentally) released.

Don't tell me you haven't heard that one!

Based on memos released by the Chinese government before the outbreak, it sounds like the most likely possibility.

Utter bullshit...

“There’s absolutely nothing in the genome sequence of this virus that indicates the virus was engineered,” said Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University. “The possibility this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

How about we deal with reality and not fantasy... This is the problem people have... Trump and his supporters live in fantasy and faced with something that meet that fantasy is deemed fake...

Trump is waiting on warm weather, and Pence is praying -

what could possibly go wrong ?

 

[White 6]

Just heard that any further announcement or government information put out by any federal government organization, regarding Coron Virus will have to be cleared by Mike Pence. Guess we are going back to top down management and information control. Good luck everybody.

Hopefully Mike's response is better than what he displayed during Indiana's opioid/HIV crisis:

“Pence Is Not a Medical Expert”: Is the Trump Admin Ready to Stop a U.S. Coronavirus Pandemic? | Democracy Now!

"Pence is not a medical expert, and he certainly is not someone who’s demonstrated particularly great amount of respect for science.

"When he was governor of the state of Indiana, the opioid crisis started in southern Indiana. And suddenly people were injecting opioids.

"He went to his god and came back and told the Legislature that he did not believe that any human being should receive sterile syringes to assist them in being a drug addict.

"His own Legislature countered him; he vetoed.

"Countered, vetoed.

"Meanwhile, according to a study published by Yale University, at least 250 people got infected with HIV as a result of this crazy policy."

Trump Taps Anti-Science Mike Pence To Lead U.S. Coronavirus Response

I hope so. I do not feel like they politicized it much yesterday at the briefing. I felt that might be because the Pres is a germaphobe, and decided to trust experts on this one, but with todays announcement as Pence being an information door keeper, not so sure.

 

[CowboyTed]

I think the reality is that panic will cause economic damage.

We're seeing it in the markets now.

This isn't ebola or a high mortality rate disease. likely we're going to have to live with it as an emdemic pathogen unless they develop a vaccine. and, while that sounds lovely, it may also mutate, meaning, like the flu, we have to vaccinate against different strains.

Once people stop shitting all over themselves because, due to their own ignorance, they think the world is ending, things will settle back to normal. starting to look like thats gonna be a while....

It will likely turn out just like SARS, MERS, and Zika virus. Very deadly at the beginning in third world shitholes, finds its way into e US and Europe, but eventually gets under control and goes away.

Great we are getting 'likely' from the guy who is saying it comes from a Chinese lab... Maybe a protected million people dead in US we might want to go with the guys who don't say 'likely' but Trump cut their budget by 80%.

Now he has left Pence in charge who has previous epidemics. He thought prayer was the answer, I kid you not...
Did Mike Pence really make Indiana’s HIV crisis worse?

Sorry but I a bit more action than prayers...

 

[georgephillip]

Just heard that any further announcement or government information put out by any federal government organization, regarding Coron Virus will have to be cleared by Mike Pence. Guess we are going back to top down management and information control. Good luck everybody.

Hopefully Mike's response is better than what he displayed during Indiana's opioid/HIV crisis:

“Pence Is Not a Medical Expert”: Is the Trump Admin Ready to Stop a U.S. Coronavirus Pandemic? | Democracy Now!

"Pence is not a medical expert, and he certainly is not someone who’s demonstrated particularly great amount of respect for science.

"When he was governor of the state of Indiana, the opioid crisis started in southern Indiana. And suddenly people were injecting opioids.

"He went to his god and came back and told the Legislature that he did not believe that any human being should receive sterile syringes to assist them in being a drug addict.

"His own Legislature countered him; he vetoed.

"Countered, vetoed.

"Meanwhile, according to a study published by Yale University, at least 250 people got infected with HIV as a result of this crazy policy."

Trump Taps Anti-Science Mike Pence To Lead U.S. Coronavirus Response

I hope so. I do not feel like they politicized it much yesterday at the briefing. I felt that might be because the Pres is a germaphobe, and decided to trust experts on this one, but with todays announcement as Pence being an information door keeper, not so sure.

I hope so. I do not feel like they politicized it much yesterday at the briefing. I felt that might be because the Pres is a germaphobe, and decided to trust experts on this one, but with todays announcement as Pence being an information door keeper, not so sure.

Perhaps COVID-19 needs a re-branding?

Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging

"'Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the country’s leading experts on viruses and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infections Diseases, told associates that the White House had instructed him not to say anything else without clearance.'"

"Gail Collins: Let’s call it Trumpvirus."

 

[theHawk]

Stupidity is more contagious and faster moving than this virus.

Rumors and conspiracy theories are almost as deadly as this virus.

Cut the shit!

What are the conspiracy theories?

COVID-19 was hatched in a Chinese lab and (accidentally) released.

Don't tell me you haven't heard that one!

Based on memos released by the Chinese government before the outbreak, it sounds like the most likely possibility.

Utter bullshit...

“There’s absolutely nothing in the genome sequence of this virus that indicates the virus was engineered,” said Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University. “The possibility this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

How about we deal with reality and not fantasy... This is the problem people have... Trump and his supporters live in fantasy and faced with something that meet that fantasy is deemed fake...

Engineering on COV viruses has been going on for years, dingbat:

Abstract
The large size of the coronavirus (CoV) genome (around 30 kb) and the instability in bacteria of plasmids carrying CoV replicase sequences represent serious restrictions for the development of CoV infectious clones using reverse genetic systems similar to those used for smaller positive sense RNA viruses. To overcome these problems, several approaches have been established in the last 13 years. Here we describe the engineering of CoV full-length cDNA clones as bacterial artificial chromosomes (BACs), using the Middle East respiratory syndrome CoV (MERS-CoV) as a model.

Engineering infectious cDNAs of coronavirus as bacterial artificial chromosomes. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[22lcidw]

Just heard that any further announcement or government information put out by any federal government organization, regarding Coron Virus will have to be cleared by Mike Pence. Guess we are going back to top down management and information control. Good luck everybody.

Hopefully Mike's response is better than what he displayed during Indiana's opioid/HIV crisis:

“Pence Is Not a Medical Expert”: Is the Trump Admin Ready to Stop a U.S. Coronavirus Pandemic? | Democracy Now!

"Pence is not a medical expert, and he certainly is not someone who’s demonstrated particularly great amount of respect for science.

"When he was governor of the state of Indiana, the opioid crisis started in southern Indiana. And suddenly people were injecting opioids.

"He went to his god and came back and told the Legislature that he did not believe that any human being should receive sterile syringes to assist them in being a drug addict.

"His own Legislature countered him; he vetoed.

"Countered, vetoed.

"Meanwhile, according to a study published by Yale University, at least 250 people got infected with HIV as a result of this crazy policy."

Trump Taps Anti-Science Mike Pence To Lead U.S. Coronavirus Response

Don't underestimate Pence. Pence is better at crossing the T's and dotting the I's then Trump and he will make Progs a little happier. But from the tone of Nancy it seems they are taking their foot off the Trump is no good accelerator a bit because of this virus issue. These people are murderers. Just like the media/entertainment shills. And you guys keep asking for more gruel.

 

[WEATHER53]

Pneumonia effects 12 million Americans each year, 1 million hospitalization , 50,000 deaths.
The corona new kid in town is just another on the list of end of mankind that liberals cherish. West Nile, Ebola, SARS, bird flu, and more. Proportionality would normally prevail but not in a fake media led progoganda. Yes it’s new, yes pay attention to it but back at the onset of those other viruses the media was not in free fall fakery and there really was little voice for malcontents who espouse that Americans, particularly white, deserve to suffer.

 

[georgephillip]

Not sure what georgephillip was laughing about, but at the close for the day, the DJI is now back to where it was on Jan 11, 2018. That is really not a good thing, in case you did not know

If my source is correct, the S & P 500 just fell 4.4% today for its worst single-day slide since August of 2011? I can't shake the intuition Trump's sole concern regarding the current potential pandemic centers around his reelection prospects. Maybe that's why Mike got picked for COVID Czar?

 

[B. Kidd]

Right now, more speculations and questions than answers.
Human run biolabs fucked up!

 

[fncceo]

Yes, our supply lines are tied to everyone, and everyone. New auto sales in China are down 92% since the outbreak

You get that the COVID19 virus is spread person to person, not person to object, right?

You can't catch it from touching a doorknob made in China.

 

[WEATHER53]

Yes, our supply lines are tied to everyone, and everyone. New auto sales in China are down 92% since the outbreak

You get that the COVID19 virus is spread person to person, not person to object, right?

You can't catch it from touching a doorknob made in China.

But but but that would be worse so you are lying.

 

[B. Kidd]

Respirator masks have sold out in Las Vegas as of today.
Fortunately, I have a stockpile.
And they're not for sale.

 

[lantern2814]

Stupidity is more contagious and faster moving than this virus.

Rumors and conspiracy theories are almost as deadly as this virus.

Cut the shit!

Yesterday you assholes really do need to cut YOUR shit! Your idiotic fear mothering and flat out lies aren’t helping.

 

[eddiew]

Reality
This is a good example of a MORON

 

[g5000]

Coronavirus economic reality: Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history

 

[theHawk]

Funny how a month ago Chinese scientists were reassuring the world there was nothing to worry about:


. David Hui Shu-cheong, a respiratory expert and chairman of the Department of Medicine and Therapeutics at Chinese University of Hong Kong, told NBC News he felt that "the risk to Hong Kong and other parts of the world is low” as long as health authorities in Wuhan can contain it there.


"They are much better than in 2003 in handling severe infections in terms of transparency and timeliness,” he added.

.....

“It is reassuring that after a month the total number of cases is fairly limited and the absence of healthcare worker infections supports the idea that there hasn't been sustained human to human transmission,” she added.

China reports first death from outbreak of mystery virus

Funny how so many US news agencies cover for China.

 

[georgephillip]

Don't underestimate Pence. Pence is better at crossing the T's and dotting the I's then Trump and he will make Progs a little happier

I don't think making progressives happier is high on Trump's to-do list. Even if it was, Pence has proven repeatedly he is too ignorant of basic scientific knowledge to be given the task of messaging on a matter as complex as pandemic containment:

From "smoking doesn't kill" to conversion therapy—Mike Pence's most controversial science remarks

"Smoking doesn't kill"

"'Time for a quick reality check,' Pence wrote in an op-ed back in 2000. 'Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill.'"

Coronavirus Live Updates: Cases Soar in Middle East and Europe; C.D.C. Calls for More Testing

"The sell-off put the stock market into market correction territory, defined as a decline of 10 percent or more from a previous high. The S&P 500 closed down 12 percent from its peak on Feb. 19.


"The drop came after infection figures in Europe and the Middle East continued to soar, and public health officials in the United States and Germany said new patients in each country had no known connection to others with the illness.

"Those mystery transmissions raised the possibility that the virus’s spread was growing too complex to track.

"Cases have appeared in at least 48 countries."