Let's Hear It For America's (Liberal) Educators!

[Conservative65]

Another failed attempt.....youre terrible at writing.

Whew! Glad you didn't deny your obvious stupidity.

Now...about your lack of education: did you run out of apostrophes?

"....youre terrible at writing."
"...you're terrible at writing."

Now...you may or may not be correct about 'writing'...but there is no doubt that I am always correct at telling the truth.

If youre going to point out lazy grammar - youd have to admit hypocrisy on that front.

I can quote my quote of your quote showing just that, but you already knew that.

Youre really terrible at this.

So you admit you're lazy. Most idiots are.

I admit my typing on an anonymous message board is lazy, yes. Justified by the fact that this *should* mean very little to its users in the grand scheme of things, but i do understand it means so much more to certain people.

The op, for instance? This is her full time occupation.

She's posting in between kneeling on the prayer bar at mass....

Seems G.T. is the one doing the kneeling but it's not to pray.

 

[initforme]

McCarthy believed that the protestant church was a branch of the communists. Then he went after parts of the army. Some of his views were anti Semitic as well. He eventually had to be censured.

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy believed that the protestant church was a branch of the communists. Then he went after parts of the army. Some of his views were anti Semitic as well. He eventually had to be censured.

How about giving examples....so I can rip them apart, as I did earlier.


Let's not leave the previous discussion in which you were challenged to provide examples of "ruined" innocent folks by McCarthy.


And you proved a dismal failure at the attempt.

 

[initforme]

If you see him as a hero ro that's fine. From what I have read he is anything but. I know ALOT of people who believe the same as me. The "red scare" was a time I lived through.

 

[initforme]

PS. I sincerely hope you have a blessed Easter. All the best to you and your family.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you see him as a hero ro that's fine. From what I have read he is anything but. I know ALOT of people who believe the same as me. The "red scare" was a time I lived through.

Is this an admission that you are clueless?

Fine.

Take notes from the following....and never....NEVER....smear the true American hero, Senator Joseph McCarthy, again:


1.".... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGBChief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the formerKGBarchivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files ofFBIinvestigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.


2. No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy. So successful has the campaign been that one senses from some quadrants on the Right both acceptance of the shopworn narrative that, in his zeal, McCarthy profoundly harmed the cause of anti-Communism and apprehension that any whiff of sympathy for McCarthy will doom conservative credibility. On the latter point, no allowance is made for the strong case that McCarthy was overwhelmingly correct about the Communist threat—especially, the outrage that known and reasonably suspected Communists continued to work in high-ranking government positions for years after being identified as such. "
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion

 

[PoliticalChic]

PS. I sincerely hope you have a blessed Easter. All the best to you and your family.

And, the same to you and yours.

 

[G.T.]

Whew! Glad you didn't deny your obvious stupidity.

Now...about your lack of education: did you run out of apostrophes?

"....youre terrible at writing."
"...you're terrible at writing."

Now...you may or may not be correct about 'writing'...but there is no doubt that I am always correct at telling the truth.

If youre going to point out lazy grammar - youd have to admit hypocrisy on that front.

I can quote my quote of your quote showing just that, but you already knew that.

Youre really terrible at this.

So you admit you're lazy. Most idiots are.

I admit my typing on an anonymous message board is lazy, yes. Justified by the fact that this *should* mean very little to its users in the grand scheme of things, but i do understand it means so much more to certain people.

The op, for instance? This is her full time occupation.

She's posting in between kneeling on the prayer bar at mass....

Seems G.T. is the one doing the kneeling but it's not to pray.

Very true that i dont pray. G'job mothballs.

 

[Conservative65]

If youre going to point out lazy grammar - youd have to admit hypocrisy on that front.

I can quote my quote of your quote showing just that, but you already knew that.

Youre really terrible at this.

So you admit you're lazy. Most idiots are.

I admit my typing on an anonymous message board is lazy, yes. Justified by the fact that this *should* mean very little to its users in the grand scheme of things, but i do understand it means so much more to certain people.

The op, for instance? This is her full time occupation.

She's posting in between kneeling on the prayer bar at mass....

Seems G.T. is the one doing the kneeling but it's not to pray.

Very true that i dont pray. G'job mothballs.

You kneel in order to stick you head up your ass. Got it. At least you admit I was correct.

 

[G.T.]

So you admit you're lazy. Most idiots are.

I admit my typing on an anonymous message board is lazy, yes. Justified by the fact that this *should* mean very little to its users in the grand scheme of things, but i do understand it means so much more to certain people.

The op, for instance? This is her full time occupation.

She's posting in between kneeling on the prayer bar at mass....

Seems G.T. is the one doing the kneeling but it's not to pray.

Very true that i dont pray. G'job mothballs.

You kneel in order to stick you head up your ass. Got it. At least you admit I was correct.

If this is your insanely immature vision of what im doing?

Good. Very good. Happy? Swell.

 

[Conservative65]

I admit my typing on an anonymous message board is lazy, yes. Justified by the fact that this *should* mean very little to its users in the grand scheme of things, but i do understand it means so much more to certain people.

The op, for instance? This is her full time occupation.

She's posting in between kneeling on the prayer bar at mass....

Seems G.T. is the one doing the kneeling but it's not to pray.

Very true that i dont pray. G'job mothballs.

You kneel in order to stick you head up your ass. Got it. At least you admit I was correct.

If this is your insanely immature vision of what im doing?

Good. Very good. Happy? Swell.

Nothing immature about saying you do what you do. Pucker up.

 

[regent]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

 

[regent]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

"So how did it all turn out?"

Glad you asked.

The result of the efforts of Franklin Roosevelt made it certain.....well....here....have a look:


Check out these dozen aims of Liberals/Progressives/Democrats today...

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.(Obama: "I'll be more flexible after the election...")
2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.
3. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


4. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
6. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


7. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
8. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
9. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


10. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
11. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
12. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


These were the goals of the communist party, as read on the floor of Congress January 10, 1963.



Let's never forget these mighty accomplishments of FDR!

 

[regent]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

"So how did it all turn out?"

Glad you asked.

The result of the efforts of Franklin Roosevelt made it certain.....well....here....have a look:


Check out these dozen aims of Liberals/Progressives/Democrats today...

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.(Obama: "I'll be more flexible after the election...")
2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.
3. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


4. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
6. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


7. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
8. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
9. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


10. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
11. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
12. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


These were the goals of the communist party, as read on the floor of Congress January 10, 1963.



Let's never forget these mighty accomplishments of FDR!

You cannot keep this information secret anymore, you must get it to the noted historians that rate the presidents. Think of the look on their face when they open these documents. Would it be asking too much to let us know how they respond?

 

[Correll]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

That is a very interesting response.

YOu seem to dismiss the relevance of the truth because the negative characterization of McCarthy is still widely believed and it serves your purpose.

 

[regent]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

That is a very interesting response.

YOu seem to dismiss the relevance of the truth because the negative characterization of McCarthy is still widely believed and it serves your purpose.

I care not one whit about McCarthy except how he used fear to exploit people. McCarthy used people's fear to feed his political ego, but was so clumsy that he became a joke, and McCarthyism is now used as a anecdote for fear. As one goes over these boards we can see example after example of posters trying to frighten people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

That is a very interesting response.

YOu seem to dismiss the relevance of the truth because the negative characterization of McCarthy is still widely believed and it serves your purpose.

I care not one whit about McCarthy except how he used fear to exploit people. McCarthy used people's fear to feed his political ego, but was so clumsy that he became a joke, and McCarthyism is now used as a anecdote for fear. As one goes over these boards we can see example after example of posters trying to frighten people.

1. "if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration."


2. " .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’sVenona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion




Have you read any of the scholarly tomes mentioned above?


I have.

 

[Correll]

McCarthy almost made the anticommunism crusade into a cheap joke. I often wondered if he believed any of his speeches, charges etc. he made. I almost felt sorry for him in the Army-McCarthy hearings, he was so pathetic. I think even the Republican Senators felt betrayed by him.

As usual, the slander from Rooseveltian blow-hards continues.
Unfortunately for you, the truth has come out.


" .... original source archives that have come to light in recent years suggest that, if anything, McCarthy understated the breadth of Soviet infiltration. These include the revelations by the former KGB Chief Oleg Gordievsky, who in conjunction with the Cambridge intelligence expert Christopher Andrew, began exposing the scope of Soviet penetration in 1990, even before the USSR collapsed; the U.S. intelligence community’s Venona decryptions that began becoming public in the mid-1990s and were summarized in breathtaking detail by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel; the investigative work of Jerrold and Leona Schecter, who traced the flow of Venona revelations into the Truman White House, beginning as early as 1945; the former KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin, who smuggled his files out of Moscow in 1992 (and who, in conjunction with Christopher Andrew, found astonishing the apathy of American historians regarding the KGB’s influence operations); the groundbreaking scholarship of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr on the history of Communist espionage and the mulish determination of the academy not to notice it; the voluminous evidence of American treason on Moscow’s behalf amassed by Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev; the files of FBI investigations and congressional hearings on Communist infiltration that have recently been declassified; and so on.

No American in history has undergone as thoroughgoing a character assassination as McCarthy."
Red herrings by Andrew C. McCarthy - The New Criterion


Luckily, there are fewer and fewer of you dinosaurs denying the truth.

As more of the truth becomes known....so do the transgressions of you idol, Franklin Roosevelt.

So how did it all turn out? I mean has the Senate rescinded their censure, do books on political ideology now rate McCarthy as a good conservative, have dictionaries now changed their definition of McCarthyism? Perhaps even as important have they ever found that list of communists that McCarthy used to start his crusade?
One thing did change, however, the latest historical rating of presidents placed FDR as America's best president, number one, the biggie.

That is a very interesting response.

YOu seem to dismiss the relevance of the truth because the negative characterization of McCarthy is still widely believed and it serves your purpose.

I care not one whit about McCarthy except how he used fear to exploit people. McCarthy used people's fear to feed his political ego, but was so clumsy that he became a joke, and McCarthyism is now used as a anecdote for fear. As one goes over these boards we can see example after example of posters trying to frighten people.

Was that meant to address my question?

Because it seems when you say you only care about one thing, that strongly implies that you don't care about all other things, in this case the truth.

I want to be clear about that. Are you saying that you don't care about the truth?