Chillicothe
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This was posted in a nearby thread:
Which seems worrisome, in my opinion.
However, there is a bit more nuance and, umm, 'fact check' that can be applied.
For example let's hoist up Don Trump's remarks in this opening post as sort of an instructive. OK?
And then, in the second follow-along post....let's hoist up Jim Jordan's remarks. OK?
Here, is what was reported today:
"Trump falsely claims he ‘requested’ 10,000 troops rejected by Pelosi"
"The Pinocchio Test"
"On the day before the Jan. 6 rally, Trump appears to have mentioned 10,000 National Guard troops at a White House meeting on an unrelated matter. Contrary to his statement, he did not make a request or any sort of order to dispatch the troops. Otherwise, his comment would not have been regarded as typical Trump hype. Presumably if he had issued an order, he would have followed up to make sure it was carried out.
Trump goes further afield when he claims that his number was raised with the Capitol Police and that Pelosi, in “a big mistake,” rejected the offer of so many troops. That’s just fantasy.
Like many of Trump’s falsehoods, there’s a seed of reality here. But then the former president nurtures it into a bush of fictions as part of his continuing effort to evade responsibility for how his own actions led to the Capitol Hill riot. "
"He earns Four Pinocchios."
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And then, on to Representative Jim Jordan--------
.....................................................................................Even the so called insurrection at the Capital. News is out that Nancy Pelosi REFUSED the 10,000 National Guard troops for the Capital in the days prior to November 6th. The excuse given was the optics however, given that everything else in the election was gamed, I guess we'll see.
Which seems worrisome, in my opinion.
However, there is a bit more nuance and, umm, 'fact check' that can be applied.
For example let's hoist up Don Trump's remarks in this opening post as sort of an instructive. OK?
And then, in the second follow-along post....let's hoist up Jim Jordan's remarks. OK?
Here, is what was reported today:
"Trump falsely claims he ‘requested’ 10,000 troops rejected by Pelosi"
"The Pinocchio Test"
"On the day before the Jan. 6 rally, Trump appears to have mentioned 10,000 National Guard troops at a White House meeting on an unrelated matter. Contrary to his statement, he did not make a request or any sort of order to dispatch the troops. Otherwise, his comment would not have been regarded as typical Trump hype. Presumably if he had issued an order, he would have followed up to make sure it was carried out.
Trump goes further afield when he claims that his number was raised with the Capitol Police and that Pelosi, in “a big mistake,” rejected the offer of so many troops. That’s just fantasy.
Like many of Trump’s falsehoods, there’s a seed of reality here. But then the former president nurtures it into a bush of fictions as part of his continuing effort to evade responsibility for how his own actions led to the Capitol Hill riot. "
"He earns Four Pinocchios."
......................................................................................................
And then, on to Representative Jim Jordan--------