Let's be honest here conservatives. We can indeed blame capitalists for selling out our country. NOT CAPITALISM, which is different.

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

 

[Oddball]

Then we can blame the crony corporatists/mercantilists....There's a difference.

 

[Theowl32]

Then we can blame the crony corporatists/mercantilists....There's a difference.

They made their fortune through the OPPORTUNITIES the FREE MARKET gave them, but yes. It isn't CAPITALISM which is a free market.

Monopolies take away a free market, which destroys CAPITALISM, which destroys OPPORTUNITY.

Essentially, the country is destroying SMALL BUSINESS which is largely the MIDDLE CLASS. The Large corporations are eradicating competition which is one of those words the left despise.

Competition.

 

[candycorn]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

 

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

Yes, but the call for massive hikes in minimum wage is the corporatists ways of destroying small business.

It is a tactic they use to manipulate people who are none the wiser. It takes advantage of naive or ignorant people.

Watch the John Stossel piece I posted.

 

[candycorn]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

Yes, but the call for massive hikes in minimum wage is the corporatists ways of destroying small business.

It is a tactic they use to manipulate people who are none the wiser. It takes advantage of naive or ignorant people.

Watch the John Stossel piece I posted.

Florida raised their MW to $15 an hour. Florida. Red State. We'll see how they look in 4 years...deal?

 

[theHawk]

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

If that’s so then why did he push for tariffs?
And why did Dems fight against him on those tariffs? Tariffs work to protect domestic industry, which is why they are used all over the world.

You can’t expect businesses to just willingly chose to manufacture here if it will put them out of business. It’s up to the government to create the environment for them to thrive in domestically.

 

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

Yes, but the call for massive hikes in minimum wage is the corporatists ways of destroying small business.

It is a tactic they use to manipulate people who are none the wiser. It takes advantage of naive or ignorant people.

Watch the John Stossel piece I posted.

Florida raised their MW to $15 an hour. Florida. Red State. We'll see how they look in 4 years...deal?

Deal.

Actors' Equity imposes $9 minimum wage on L.A.'s 99-seat theaters

National leaders of Actors' Equity Assn. on Tuesday imposed a $9 hourly minimum wage for members who perform in Los Angeles County theaters with fewer than 100 seats, overriding a recent vote by rank-and-file union members in L.A.'

www.latimes.com

There is an example. A few years ago far left hollywood actors like ed asner, who all rallied for minimum wage increases, all of a sudden saw that it was going to close an historical theater in California. A place that they had all worked.

They then tried to save the theater by all of a sudden saying they don't want the very hikes in minimum wage that they fought for.

Too late, the theater closed it's doors. Many lost their jobs. Yet, lesson not learned.

 

[kaz]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Where you're confused is that capitalism isn't about companies, it's about free markets.

I don't love companies, I love free markets. Free markets mean that companies, employers, employees, suppliers, consumers, all have freedom to pick their best deal.

Companies who pursue government control aren't exercising capitalism and aren't capitalist

 

[candycorn]

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

If that’s so then why did he push for tariffs?

Because Macy*s dropped his product line and it would no longer affect him.

Andd why did Dems fight against him on those tariffs?

Because it raises prices for things we want.

Tariffs work to protect domestic industry, which is why they are used all over the world.

When you have a domestic industry of scale, it might. We don't for lots of electronics. And as we've seen with the chronic shortages, alot of other items.

You can’t expect businesses to just willingly chose to manufacture here if it will put them out of business. It’s up to the government to create the environment for them to thrive in domestically.

What I propose is this:

Create a space on store's websites or in their brick and mortar locations for items that are 90-95% made in the USA. I mean shirts with cotton grown in MS, jewelery made out of diamonds mind in Arkansas (if they still have them), corn grown in Nebraska, Fish caught in Washington or Alaska, furniture made in Ohio, etc... Packaging made in Wisconsin. All created by American workers. Mostly it will be food items at first but will branch out to cover whatever is manufactured...radios, furniture, etc... These items will have the USDA (or other Federal endorsement)

Then, on the funding end, give every SS number holder a stipend of $50 a month lets say--whatever you want it to be--to spend in those stores or on those websites.

$600...a year in my example. That is a $180B market made out of nowhere.

That is $180B put into the American economy.

As for the Government creating the atmosphere....that would be great. Tariffs didn't work. Our trade imbalance is about where it was with China when the blob got there.

 

[Oddball]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

Yes, but the call for massive hikes in minimum wage is the corporatists ways of destroying small business.

It is a tactic they use to manipulate people who are none the wiser. It takes advantage of naive or ignorant people.

Watch the John Stossel piece I posted.

Florida raised their MW to $15 an hour. Florida. Red State. We'll see how they look in 4 years...deal?

So the solution to gubmint intervention in the marketplace (the only way that monopolies can exist) is to inject more gubmint meddling!

How did we miss the obvious conclusion!

 

[Moonglow]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Capitalist have deemed it their job to destroy the power labor once had and to sell out to the cheapest bidder for products but make no mistake it was politicians who paved the way for corporations tod do as such and the was done during the era of plutocracy, now corporations in the US want fascism....They will institute it if the govt. is not doing it fast enough..

 

[Moonglow]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Trump had his stuff made in China. And his penalty was getting 70M+ votes from people like you.

There is nothing wrong with being a globalist. You, me, and Trump are all globalists after all. Yet, somehow when it comes to politics, you and Trump are living in complete denial.

I'm happy to own Apple devices, a Samsung TV, a German made automobile--back when I owned it....
You're quite happy to own the foreign-made items that are in your house; otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Do both of us wish the same items were available that were made in the USA? I know I do. I suspect you do as well.

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

Yes, but the call for massive hikes in minimum wage is the corporatists ways of destroying small business.

It is a tactic they use to manipulate people who are none the wiser. It takes advantage of naive or ignorant people.

Watch the John Stossel piece I posted.

Florida raised their MW to $15 an hour. Florida. Red State. We'll see how they look in 4 years...deal?

So the solution to gubmint intervention in the marketplace (the only way that monopolies can exist) is to inject more gubmint meddling!

How did we miss the obvious conclusion!

That only facilitates the continues stranglehold on the majority of economic indicators.

 

[theHawk]

Such is a pipe dream. It would require people like Trump decide to have stuff made here and accept a smaller profit margin and/or Americans to spend more to support domestic workers. Neither seems likely.

If that’s so then why did he push for tariffs?

Because Macy*s dropped his product line and it would no longer affect him.

Andd why did Dems fight against him on those tariffs?

Because it raises prices for things we want.

Tariffs work to protect domestic industry, which is why they are used all over the world.

When you have a domestic industry of scale, it might. We don't for lots of electronics. And as we've seen with the chronic shortages, alot of other items.

You can’t expect businesses to just willingly chose to manufacture here if it will put them out of business. It’s up to the government to create the environment for them to thrive in domestically.

What I propose is this:

Create a space on store's websites or in their brick and mortar locations for items that are 90-95% made in the USA. I mean shirts with cotton grown in MS, jewelery made out of diamonds mind in Arkansas (if they still have them), corn grown in Nebraska, Fish caught in Washington or Alaska, furniture made in Ohio, etc... Packaging made in Wisconsin. All created by American workers. Mostly it will be food items at first but will branch out to cover whatever is manufactured...radios, furniture, etc... These items will have the USDA (or other Federal endorsement)

Then, on the funding end, give every SS number holder a stipend of $50 a month lets say--whatever you want it to be--to spend in those stores or on those websites.

$600...a year in my example. That is a $180B market made out of nowhere.

That is $180B put into the American economy.

As for the Government creating the atmosphere....that would be great. Tariffs didn't work. Our trade imbalance is about where it was with China when the blob got there.

Our trade deficit with China has shrunk, we don’t rely on China as much. Nothing wrong with a trade deficit, we’ll always buy more foreign goods than we export, because we are the wealthiest nation on the planet. But certain industries should be protected, and we shouldn’t outsource technology and medical goods to a communist regime.

 

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Where you're confused is that capitalism isn't about companies, it's about free markets.

I don't love companies, I love free markets. Free markets mean that companies, employers, employees, suppliers, consumers, all have freedom to pick their best deal.

Companies who pursue government control aren't exercising capitalism and aren't capitalist

Yes, but those CAPITALISTS got their OPPORTUNITIES from a free market. Since MONOPOLIES were made illegal, they have been trying to find places where they could set up monopolies.

Chinese leaders aren't immune to greed and they saw how the ussr was defeated. So, they offered up quite the deal and our beloved POLITICIANS were obviously...corrupted. Reference biden and his son and the vast wealth they received from China.

That's how it goes. I don't think we are innocent either. We know the deplorable work conditions in China and Vietnam etc and yet we buy the products manufactured there.

Is there anything sold at Walmart that isn't made in China? Now, there is a catch 22 here. Yes, the cheap prices are largely due to the cheap labor there and elsewhere.

Anyway, we are not innocent and we all have repenting to do.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

I agree.
I would also blame our whore politicians. They often do things that enriched them (whether it’s donations, jobs and positions for them after office or their kids, etc) instead of doing what’s right for the country.

 

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

I agree.
I would also blame our whore politicians. They often do things that enriched them (whether it’s donations, jobs and positions for them after office or their kids, etc) instead of doing what’s right for the country.

Yeap. Ignorance won't help us. Never does. Besides we didn't really demand that our companies to stop using their slave labor. We all bought products from there and all helped China turn into an out of control version of Frankenstein's monster.

Now, that monster has turned on us and when humans without conscience are in charge, watch out.

Yes, our politicians sold out. ALL OF THEM are corrupt and if they aren't Washington spits them out.

No, Trump is no innocent man either. However, in his attempts to make things right, the possessed screamed. Even though those so called do gooder leftists see the manner they treat their citizens and their violations of human rights, they wilfully turn their backs.

Many of them are just too committed to their godlessness. They view any and all truth to be hateful cause truth always demands that we turn from our sinful ways. Unfettered pride despises that notion. I am included with that, trust that.

 

[kaz]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Where you're confused is that capitalism isn't about companies, it's about free markets.

I don't love companies, I love free markets. Free markets mean that companies, employers, employees, suppliers, consumers, all have freedom to pick their best deal.

Companies who pursue government control aren't exercising capitalism and aren't capitalist

Yes, but those CAPITALISTS got their OPPORTUNITIES from a free market. Since MONOPOLIES were made illegal, they have been trying to find places where they could set up monopolies.

Chinese leaders aren't immune to greed and they saw how the ussr was defeated. So, they offered up quite the deal and our beloved POLITICIANS were obviously...corrupted. Reference biden and his son and the vast wealth they received from China.

That's how it goes. I don't think we are innocent either. We know the deplorable work conditions in China and Vietnam etc and yet we buy the products manufactured there.

Is there anything sold at Walmart that isn't made in China? Now, there is a catch 22 here. Yes, the cheap prices are largely due to the cheap labor there and elsewhere.

Anyway, we are not innocent and we all have repenting to do.

You take my point though that capitalism is about free markets, not "companies" though, right? I'm making the more narrow point that if they are pursuing government monopolies they aren't "capitalists." It's like someone in the church becoming a devil worshipper. Being in a church doesn't make them a "Christian."

The problem with "deplorable working conditions" is it's so subjective. Who decides? Democrats think government not forcing their company to give them free medical care is a deplorable working condition

 

[Theowl32]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Where you're confused is that capitalism isn't about companies, it's about free markets.

I don't love companies, I love free markets. Free markets mean that companies, employers, employees, suppliers, consumers, all have freedom to pick their best deal.

Companies who pursue government control aren't exercising capitalism and aren't capitalist

Yes, but those CAPITALISTS got their OPPORTUNITIES from a free market. Since MONOPOLIES were made illegal, they have been trying to find places where they could set up monopolies.

Chinese leaders aren't immune to greed and they saw how the ussr was defeated. So, they offered up quite the deal and our beloved POLITICIANS were obviously...corrupted. Reference biden and his son and the vast wealth they received from China.

That's how it goes. I don't think we are innocent either. We know the deplorable work conditions in China and Vietnam etc and yet we buy the products manufactured there.

Is there anything sold at Walmart that isn't made in China? Now, there is a catch 22 here. Yes, the cheap prices are largely due to the cheap labor there and elsewhere.

Anyway, we are not innocent and we all have repenting to do.

You take my point though that capitalism is about free markets, not "companies" though, right? I'm making the more narrow point that if they are pursuing government monopolies they aren't "capitalists." It's like someone in the church becoming a devil worshipper. Being in a church doesn't make them a "Christian."

The problem with "deplorable working conditions" is it's so subjective. Who decides? Democrats think government not forcing their company to give them free medical care is a deplorable working condition

It's been pretty documented the working conditions in China and Vietnam among other places like Pakistan.

 

[kaz]

We have to face the fact that our beloved CORPORATIONS that the left love to yell about are to blame for the rise in China and the downfall of America.

We should all know that CAPITALISTS have been attempting to create MONOPOLIES for quite a while. Make no mistake, MONOPOLIES are just another word for TYRANNICAL CONTROL, getting windfall profits with SOCIALIST METHODS. Which is essentially what a MONOPOLY IS.

Just to review here, Vlad Lenin famous quote, "we will hang the capitalists with the ropes they sell us."

Well, it was a policy of the US to NOT DO BUSINESS with the ussr or the satellite nations like Cuba. We knew all too well the threat of that statement by Lenin was very real and we knew the lure of greed would most certainly entice CEOS and stock holders who most certainly worship money over God. That is not hard to see, at all.

Combined with a nuclear arms race with Reagan, the ussr collapsed as well as the satellite nations (most of them), the Berlin wall fell and there were grand celebrations for their first taste of liberty in over 50 years. Funny, how they celebrated that and yet the left call for full blown marxism and refuse to see the thousands desperately trying to escape it.

Well, this is not how we dealt with China. Our powerful greedy ceos saw a land of CHEAP LABOR and we opened our doors. Ignoring their vast violations of human rights and selling it to the American public. Taking our eyes off the ball and accusing America of owning slaves while our corporations raced there gleefully to build manufacturing plants. All while we willfully ignored their deplorable treatment of humans. Making ourselves feel comfortable with our sins, pretending it isn't happening, just as this country and world ignored the benefits of low costs when we did have slaves.

Well, now we are paying the price for our sinful idolatry and really no one is innocent. We all have TRUTH to face. The love of money is the root of all evil and just as the Jewish leaders once said, "we have no king but Caesar," and their land and Temple were eradicated after the last Caesar died in 68ad, we have all but openly declared that we have no God, but money.

Sorry, but it is true. Our country is now being given over to the demons.

I know this is John Stossel and many don't agree but I thought this was a good piece he did a few years ago.

Where you're confused is that capitalism isn't about companies, it's about free markets.

I don't love companies, I love free markets. Free markets mean that companies, employers, employees, suppliers, consumers, all have freedom to pick their best deal.

Companies who pursue government control aren't exercising capitalism and aren't capitalist

Yes, but those CAPITALISTS got their OPPORTUNITIES from a free market. Since MONOPOLIES were made illegal, they have been trying to find places where they could set up monopolies.

Chinese leaders aren't immune to greed and they saw how the ussr was defeated. So, they offered up quite the deal and our beloved POLITICIANS were obviously...corrupted. Reference biden and his son and the vast wealth they received from China.

That's how it goes. I don't think we are innocent either. We know the deplorable work conditions in China and Vietnam etc and yet we buy the products manufactured there.

Is there anything sold at Walmart that isn't made in China? Now, there is a catch 22 here. Yes, the cheap prices are largely due to the cheap labor there and elsewhere.

Anyway, we are not innocent and we all have repenting to do.

You take my point though that capitalism is about free markets, not "companies" though, right? I'm making the more narrow point that if they are pursuing government monopolies they aren't "capitalists." It's like someone in the church becoming a devil worshipper. Being in a church doesn't make them a "Christian."

The problem with "deplorable working conditions" is it's so subjective. Who decides? Democrats think government not forcing their company to give them free medical care is a deplorable working condition

It's been pretty documented the working conditions in China and Vietnam among other places like Pakistan.

I'm not disputing deplorable working conditions exist in those countries. Clearly they do.

I'm taking it to the next level. Who decides when it is and isn't deplorable?

Who decides what the remedy is? I don't find government making choices over morality to be any improvement on immorality because our government is itself so immoral.

So my question is more who decides what is moral and what we should do about it?