Let Me Get This Straight About Impeachment Over Trump's Ukraine Phone Call

[Yarddog]

Apparently it’s because the blob asked a foreign power to investigate the son of a political opponent in return for military aid.

Where was military aid mentioned by Trump in the phone call? Or did the second hand whistle blower read between the lines because being a partisan enemy of the president, he was looking for the slightest thing he could use for the Democrat party to rally around?

If the whistle blower so called, was just a random person without bias there would never have been a report on something so slight, and if the call was such a big deal, why didn't the person who handed off the incorrect information to the whistle blower make the report himself? Why? because this is the game the democrats like to play to get what they want. Trump is an outsider who is upsetting things for corrupt democrats and republicans alike, which is why he was made into Hitler by the Dems from the very beginning, he has to go by any means necessary.

 

[Faun]

Apparently it’s because the blob asked a foreign power to investigate the son of a political opponent in return for military aid.

Where was military aid mentioned by Trump in the phone call? Or did the second hand whistle blower read between the lines because being a partisan enemy of the president, he was looking for the slightest thing he could use for the Democrat party to rally around?

If the whistle blower so called, was just a random person without bias there would never have been a report on something so slight, and if the call was such a big deal, why didn't the person who handed off the incorrect information to the whistle blower make the report himself? Why? because this is the game the democrats like to play to get what they want. Trump is an outsider who is upsetting things for corrupt democrats and republicans alike, which is why he was made into Hitler by the Dems from the very beginning, he has to go by any means necessary.

Trump said he withheld to until he could confirm Ukraine was serious about fighting corruption.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So let me see if I understand the Democrats' position on this: Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid from Ukraine if Ukraine did not fire the prosecutor who was investigating the Ukrainian company that was paying Biden's drug-using, Naval-Academy-expelled, Navy-discharged-for-drug-use son Hunter $50K per month--and that's no big deal, nothing to see here..

The prosecutor was not at the time investigating the Ukrainian company.

Hunter Biden did not ever go to the Naval Academy, thus he could not have been expelled from it.

Hope that helps your confusion.

_______

No---Hunter Biden could NEVER EVER have gotten into the Navel Academy.

But, he did manage to get into the Navy itself---and got booted out for using cocaine.

Then, with such superior qualifications as that, a mere two months later---he gets put on the Board of a Ukraine Oil and Gas Company ar 50,000 to 80,00 thousand a MONTH---even though he doesn't know shit about Oil and Gas OR Ukraine, but his Dad is VEEP and is in charge of policy on Ukraine and distribution of money to Ukraine. Honest Americans want to know more about that. Its disgusting if not criminal, and if not criminal--it ought to be.

But, you, being a moron, figure you have won the argument by pointing out the technical error in the mention of the Navel Academy.

Oh look, another mindless drone parroting the party talking points yet is too stupid to know what the purpose of a Board of Directors.

Allow me to educate you just a tad...

Look up Charles Scharf. He is the Chairman for the NY Ballet Board of Directors even though he does know shit about ballet and he was on the Microsoft Board even though he does not know shit about software development.

_______

I don't know how you could establish that you are a half-wit any more completely than by this post. Yes, very knowledgeable and accomplished people are put on Boards without expertise in that specific area. They are put there for their known good judgment and accomplishments in general.

But, since Hunter Biden has neither good judgment or accomplishments---only a father for VEEP--it is obvious to all but morons that is why, the ONLY reason why, he was put on this Board.

And, asshole, you might want to ask yourself what justified his huge pay as well. The members on the Board of EXXON don't make much more than what Hunter Biden got for this scam with his dumb-ass father.

)______-

I am glad that I could educate you on what a Board of Directors is and is not. We are making progress.

How did his pay compare to the other members of that companies Board of Directors? That is all that really matters, how it compares to a different company is meaningless

What, aside from Joe's influence did Hunter bring to the table???


Or, these other corrupt instances....


Why did Biden brag about withholding $1 billion if the Ukraine didn't fete his son's business.

And why did China reward his son with $1.5 billion???


And why did Russia give Hillary $145 million for our uranium?

And give Bill $500,000 for a speech no one listened to???


And
"…the Clinton Foundationmade a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.

In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.”
The Clinton Foundation Is Dead — But The Case Against Hillary Isn't | Investor's Business Daily



“Donations to the Clinton Foundation nose-dived last year amid Hillary Clinton’s presidential run, pay-to-play allegations, internal strife and a black mark from a charity watchdog.

Contributions fell by 37 percent to $108 million, down from $172 million in 2014, according to the group’s latest tax filings.

Not only did contributions drop, but so did revenue the Clintons brought in from speeches. That income fell to $357,500 from $3.6 million in 2014.” https://nypost.com/2016/11/20/donations-to-clinton-foundation-fell-by-37-percent/



Biden bragged he would cut $1 billlion if they didn't get rid of the prosecutor who was investigating his son's company.

Here it is again.



Biden's exact words at 1:20 of the vid, you dunce.

 

[Yarddog]

Apparently it’s because the blob asked a foreign power to investigate the son of a political opponent in return for military aid.

Where was military aid mentioned by Trump in the phone call? Or did the second hand whistle blower read between the lines because being a partisan enemy of the president, he was looking for the slightest thing he could use for the Democrat party to rally around?

If the whistle blower so called, was just a random person without bias there would never have been a report on something so slight, and if the call was such a big deal, why didn't the person who handed off the incorrect information to the whistle blower make the report himself? Why? because this is the game the democrats like to play to get what they want. Trump is an outsider who is upsetting things for corrupt democrats and republicans alike, which is why he was made into Hitler by the Dems from the very beginning, he has to go by any means necessary.

Trump said he withheld to until he could confirm Ukraine was serious about fighting corruption.

Right? and what again was the reason Biden withheld a billion dollars from the Ukraine? he was fighting supposedly for???

 

[Faun]

Apparently it’s because the blob asked a foreign power to investigate the son of a political opponent in return for military aid.

Where was military aid mentioned by Trump in the phone call? Or did the second hand whistle blower read between the lines because being a partisan enemy of the president, he was looking for the slightest thing he could use for the Democrat party to rally around?

If the whistle blower so called, was just a random person without bias there would never have been a report on something so slight, and if the call was such a big deal, why didn't the person who handed off the incorrect information to the whistle blower make the report himself? Why? because this is the game the democrats like to play to get what they want. Trump is an outsider who is upsetting things for corrupt democrats and republicans alike, which is why he was made into Hitler by the Dems from the very beginning, he has to go by any means necessary.

Trump said he withheld to until he could confirm Ukraine was serious about fighting corruption.

Right? and what again was the reason Biden withheld a billion dollars from the Ukraine? he was fighting supposedly for???

To oust a prosecutor who was not fighting corruption. Who folks from several nations and several international bodies wanted removed for that very reason.

So how did that benefit Biden personally?

 

[Yarddog]

The prosecutor was not at the time investigating the Ukrainian company.

Hunter Biden did not ever go to the Naval Academy, thus he could not have been expelled from it.

Hope that helps your confusion.

_______

No---Hunter Biden could NEVER EVER have gotten into the Navel Academy.

But, he did manage to get into the Navy itself---and got booted out for using cocaine.

Then, with such superior qualifications as that, a mere two months later---he gets put on the Board of a Ukraine Oil and Gas Company ar 50,000 to 80,00 thousand a MONTH---even though he doesn't know shit about Oil and Gas OR Ukraine, but his Dad is VEEP and is in charge of policy on Ukraine and distribution of money to Ukraine. Honest Americans want to know more about that. Its disgusting if not criminal, and if not criminal--it ought to be.

But, you, being a moron, figure you have won the argument by pointing out the technical error in the mention of the Navel Academy.

Oh look, another mindless drone parroting the party talking points yet is too stupid to know what the purpose of a Board of Directors.

Allow me to educate you just a tad...

Look up Charles Scharf. He is the Chairman for the NY Ballet Board of Directors even though he does know shit about ballet and he was on the Microsoft Board even though he does not know shit about software development.

_______

I don't know how you could establish that you are a half-wit any more completely than by this post. Yes, very knowledgeable and accomplished people are put on Boards without expertise in that specific area. They are put there for their known good judgment and accomplishments in general.

But, since Hunter Biden has neither good judgment or accomplishments---only a father for VEEP--it is obvious to all but morons that is why, the ONLY reason why, he was put on this Board.

And, asshole, you might want to ask yourself what justified his huge pay as well. The members on the Board of EXXON don't make much more than what Hunter Biden got for this scam with his dumb-ass father.

)______-

I am glad that I could educate you on what a Board of Directors is and is not. We are making progress.

How did his pay compare to the other members of that companies Board of Directors? That is all that really matters, how it compares to a different company is meaningless

What, aside from Joe's influence did Hunter bring to the table???


Or, these other corrupt instances....


Why did Biden brag about withholding $1 billion if the Ukraine didn't fete his son's business.

And why did China reward his son with $1.5 billion???


And why did Russia give Hillary $145 million for our uranium?

And give Bill $500,000 for a speech no one listened to???


And
"…the Clinton Foundationmade a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.

In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.”
The Clinton Foundation Is Dead — But The Case Against Hillary Isn't | Investor's Business Daily



“Donations to the Clinton Foundation nose-dived last year amid Hillary Clinton’s presidential run, pay-to-play allegations, internal strife and a black mark from a charity watchdog.

Contributions fell by 37 percent to $108 million, down from $172 million in 2014, according to the group’s latest tax filings.

Not only did contributions drop, but so did revenue the Clintons brought in from speeches. That income fell to $357,500 from $3.6 million in 2014.” https://nypost.com/2016/11/20/donations-to-clinton-foundation-fell-by-37-percent/



Biden bragged he would cut $1 billlion if they didn't get rid of the prosecutor who was investigating his son's company.

Here it is again.



Biden's exact words at 1:20 of the vid, you dunce.

And somehow Biden knew in his infinate wisdom that the fired prosecutor was replaced by someone "solid" in his own words.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The prosecutor was not at the time investigating the Ukrainian company.

Hunter Biden did not ever go to the Naval Academy, thus he could not have been expelled from it.

Hope that helps your confusion.

_______

No---Hunter Biden could NEVER EVER have gotten into the Navel Academy.

But, he did manage to get into the Navy itself---and got booted out for using cocaine.

Then, with such superior qualifications as that, a mere two months later---he gets put on the Board of a Ukraine Oil and Gas Company ar 50,000 to 80,00 thousand a MONTH---even though he doesn't know shit about Oil and Gas OR Ukraine, but his Dad is VEEP and is in charge of policy on Ukraine and distribution of money to Ukraine. Honest Americans want to know more about that. Its disgusting if not criminal, and if not criminal--it ought to be.

But, you, being a moron, figure you have won the argument by pointing out the technical error in the mention of the Navel Academy.

Oh look, another mindless drone parroting the party talking points yet is too stupid to know what the purpose of a Board of Directors.

Allow me to educate you just a tad...

Look up Charles Scharf. He is the Chairman for the NY Ballet Board of Directors even though he does know shit about ballet and he was on the Microsoft Board even though he does not know shit about software development.

_______

I don't know how you could establish that you are a half-wit any more completely than by this post. Yes, very knowledgeable and accomplished people are put on Boards without expertise in that specific area. They are put there for their known good judgment and accomplishments in general.

But, since Hunter Biden has neither good judgment or accomplishments---only a father for VEEP--it is obvious to all but morons that is why, the ONLY reason why, he was put on this Board.

And, asshole, you might want to ask yourself what justified his huge pay as well. The members on the Board of EXXON don't make much more than what Hunter Biden got for this scam with his dumb-ass father.

)______-

I am glad that I could educate you on what a Board of Directors is and is not. We are making progress.

How did his pay compare to the other members of that companies Board of Directors? That is all that really matters, how it compares to a different company is meaningless

What, aside from Joe's influence did Hunter bring to the table???


Or, these other corrupt instances....


Why did Biden brag about withholding $1 billion if the Ukraine didn't fete his son's business.

And why did China reward his son with $1.5 billion???


And why did Russia give Hillary $145 million for our uranium?

And give Bill $500,000 for a speech no one listened to???


And
"…the Clinton Foundationmade a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.

In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.”
The Clinton Foundation Is Dead — But The Case Against Hillary Isn't | Investor's Business Daily



“Donations to the Clinton Foundation nose-dived last year amid Hillary Clinton’s presidential run, pay-to-play allegations, internal strife and a black mark from a charity watchdog.

Contributions fell by 37 percent to $108 million, down from $172 million in 2014, according to the group’s latest tax filings.

Not only did contributions drop, but so did revenue the Clintons brought in from speeches. That income fell to $357,500 from $3.6 million in 2014.” https://nypost.com/2016/11/20/donations-to-clinton-foundation-fell-by-37-percent/



Biden bragged he would cut $1 billlion if they didn't get rid of the prosecutor who was investigating his son's company.

Here it is again.



Biden's exact words at 1:20 of the vid, you dunce.

Nothing in that video about his son. Why do you lie so much?

 

[Yarddog]

Apparently it’s because the blob asked a foreign power to investigate the son of a political opponent in return for military aid.

Where was military aid mentioned by Trump in the phone call? Or did the second hand whistle blower read between the lines because being a partisan enemy of the president, he was looking for the slightest thing he could use for the Democrat party to rally around?

If the whistle blower so called, was just a random person without bias there would never have been a report on something so slight, and if the call was such a big deal, why didn't the person who handed off the incorrect information to the whistle blower make the report himself? Why? because this is the game the democrats like to play to get what they want. Trump is an outsider who is upsetting things for corrupt democrats and republicans alike, which is why he was made into Hitler by the Dems from the very beginning, he has to go by any means necessary.

Trump said he withheld to until he could confirm Ukraine was serious about fighting corruption.

Right? and what again was the reason Biden withheld a billion dollars from the Ukraine? he was fighting supposedly for???

To oust a prosecutor who was not fighting corruption. Who folks from several nations and several international bodies wanted removed for that very reason.

So how did that benefit Biden personally?

that will be determined. If there was really something bad about the prosecutor, then he needed to go, but if he was fired for simply protecting the company from which Biden's son received 3,000,000 dollars, then that might open an investigation. It's up to the new government of Ukraine and its their right to look into their own internal affairs to weed out corruption. If Biden and his son end up being part of that, too bad for them.

 

[Olde Europe]

I'm pretty certain it's illegal to hire a foreign national to contribute in any way to a candidate's campaign.

There are exceptions regarding foreign nationals if they volunteer; but even then, there are strict guidelines to what capacity they can participate to ensure they don't cross the line into contributing.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

Volunteer activity
Generally, an individual (including a foreign national) may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The Act provides this volunteer "exemption" as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone. The Commission has addressed applicability of this exemption to several situations involving volunteer activity by a foreign national, as explained below.​

The salient terms in all this are "contribution", and "influence". Foreigners cannot contribute, and cannot control or have significant influence over a campaign. However:

Experts told me that when it comes to campaign finance law, hiring or contracting a foreigner to do services for a campaign is allowed. “You can pay a foreign national to provide you with services, so a campaign, for instance, could have a campaign attorney who is a Canadian citizen,” Levinson said. “As long as you pay fair market rates for those services, that’s not what the federal campaign act says is prohibited. That’s just a fair exchange of money for services.”

If this kind of seems like a loophole, experts pointed out that it would be really hard to run a campaign otherwise. It would mean having to worry if the campaign signs you printed came from a foreign company, or if the catering firm you hired had foreign workers.

If a campaign is paying someone for work or services, they’re being compensated. But where that doesn’t happen, and a campaign is accepting a contribution — or “thing of value” — from a foreign government, the question then is what’s in it for them?​

It would be too funny if hiring Steele directly would be prohibited, but involving a middleman would make it all hunky-dory. That would be too obvious a loophole making the whole regulation perfectly toothless. Anyway, hiring a contractor at fair market rates is not a contribution, and as long as this subcontractor has no influence over what's done with the material, there is no campaign finance law violation - as far as I can discern. Of course, you'll probably find folks arguing the opposite, and most assuredly you can find Trumpletons screeching "foul."

Whatever, Trump's solicitation of dirt in his call to Zelensky is as clear a violation as it gets, and it is perfectly ludicrous that the sycophants at DoJ strained to find there was no violation because they couldn't determine the value of the solicited dirt. What a crock...

 

[PoliticalChic]

_______

No---Hunter Biden could NEVER EVER have gotten into the Navel Academy.

But, he did manage to get into the Navy itself---and got booted out for using cocaine.

Then, with such superior qualifications as that, a mere two months later---he gets put on the Board of a Ukraine Oil and Gas Company ar 50,000 to 80,00 thousand a MONTH---even though he doesn't know shit about Oil and Gas OR Ukraine, but his Dad is VEEP and is in charge of policy on Ukraine and distribution of money to Ukraine. Honest Americans want to know more about that. Its disgusting if not criminal, and if not criminal--it ought to be.

But, you, being a moron, figure you have won the argument by pointing out the technical error in the mention of the Navel Academy.

Oh look, another mindless drone parroting the party talking points yet is too stupid to know what the purpose of a Board of Directors.

Allow me to educate you just a tad...

Look up Charles Scharf. He is the Chairman for the NY Ballet Board of Directors even though he does know shit about ballet and he was on the Microsoft Board even though he does not know shit about software development.

_______

I don't know how you could establish that you are a half-wit any more completely than by this post. Yes, very knowledgeable and accomplished people are put on Boards without expertise in that specific area. They are put there for their known good judgment and accomplishments in general.

But, since Hunter Biden has neither good judgment or accomplishments---only a father for VEEP--it is obvious to all but morons that is why, the ONLY reason why, he was put on this Board.

And, asshole, you might want to ask yourself what justified his huge pay as well. The members on the Board of EXXON don't make much more than what Hunter Biden got for this scam with his dumb-ass father.

)______-

I am glad that I could educate you on what a Board of Directors is and is not. We are making progress.

How did his pay compare to the other members of that companies Board of Directors? That is all that really matters, how it compares to a different company is meaningless

What, aside from Joe's influence did Hunter bring to the table???


Or, these other corrupt instances....


Why did Biden brag about withholding $1 billion if the Ukraine didn't fete his son's business.

And why did China reward his son with $1.5 billion???


And why did Russia give Hillary $145 million for our uranium?

And give Bill $500,000 for a speech no one listened to???


And
"…the Clinton Foundationmade a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.

In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.”
The Clinton Foundation Is Dead — But The Case Against Hillary Isn't | Investor's Business Daily



“Donations to the Clinton Foundation nose-dived last year amid Hillary Clinton’s presidential run, pay-to-play allegations, internal strife and a black mark from a charity watchdog.

Contributions fell by 37 percent to $108 million, down from $172 million in 2014, according to the group’s latest tax filings.

Not only did contributions drop, but so did revenue the Clintons brought in from speeches. That income fell to $357,500 from $3.6 million in 2014.” https://nypost.com/2016/11/20/donations-to-clinton-foundation-fell-by-37-percent/



Biden bragged he would cut $1 billlion if they didn't get rid of the prosecutor who was investigating his son's company.

Here it is again.



Biden's exact words at 1:20 of the vid, you dunce.

Nothing in that video about his son. Why do you lie so much?[/Q



Everyone knows you're a Democrat boot-licker.

The prosecutor was closing in on the company that planned on using Joe Biden to do their bidding, at the cost of giving son Hunter a no-show job.


The fool actually brags about using taxpayer funds as a bribe to protect his son: 1:20 of the vid.







What was Joe gonna do for China, to earn the $1.5 billion from Xi????



Maybe Joe learned how when Bill 'the rapist' Clinton sold out America's missile technology to the Red Chinese for campaign 'donations.'








It's the reason they hate Trump.....he cuts into their plans for $billions.

 

[rightwinger]

That has been readily documented in several cases, not just one. The ambassadors to Ukraine and the EU sent each other texts saying the aid was being withheld to see if the new administration in Ukraine was serious about corruption. They were, and the aid was restored. Fact. EOS.

Great, so what corruption did Trump discuss with Zelensky?

if you dont already know that you should shut up until you do,,,

LOLOLOL

That's the answer given by someone who doesn't want to admit the truth.

The truth you're avoiding is....

The corruption Trump was interested I'm Zelensky investigating was Biden and the DNC server.

Why were you too afraid to admit that?

Why don't you convince the millions of other libtards of that fact first?

The only ones who need convincing are the members of Congress. Which is why they're holding an impeachment inquiry.

Impeachment can’t succeed without Republican support

The question is, will there be any political fallout for Republicans who look the other way on political corruption and abuse of office as long as their party benefits?

Trumps handling of this affair has been inept and arrogant. Will there be a political price to pay if Republicans accept it

 

[Olde Europe]

Impeachment can’t succeed without Republican support

The question is, will there be any political fallout for Republicans who look the other way on political corruption and abuse of office as long as their party benefits?

Trumps handling of this affair has been inept and arrogant. Will there be a political price to pay if Republicans accept it

You know, goofy, as of now that's almost 190k postings, and more than a decade you've been hanging out on here, and still you can't get the terminology right:

"Impeachment can’t succeed without Republican support[.]"

How is that?

Of course, there will be a political price to pay, as some reasonable independents might abandon the Trump camp. Just as there will be a political price to pay for the impeachment proceedings, as some moderate liberals will leave the Democratic camp. Anyone asserting they are capable of quantifying these effects (and others) is probably lying.

Apart from that, there's the question as to what the nation is willing to accept by way of corruption and political shenanigans, not to mention loutish, embarrassing, inept behavior on the world stage. There's currently a clean-up crew at work, offering to the nation a view on something better. Let's see whether the nation is willing to go for that, or surrender whatever decency there may have been to the sordid spectacle around the Lout in Chief. If it's the latter, buckle your seat belts, for it's going to be a bumpy ride. "Is there a price to pay?" Yeah, there is, and a percentage point or two in the polls won't even begin to describe it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No shit. But the president asked for info about a person who may have committed a crime. Adding in that he’s a candidate for president or “political opponent” is irrelevant. The executive branch is allowed to request information to investigate corruption. I’m not even trying to defend trump on this, I couldn’t possibly care less who sits in that office anymore. If you want joe ******* Biden to be your president you can have at it. At this point I would hope there’s no one left who would want biden to be the president after everything we’ve learned about him but I’m sure there’s still plenty of you who don’t care. I’m just glad some corruption has been exposed. If trump goes down for exposing it then that’s good enough for me. You can go back to fighting over dem and repub now

A candidate is not allowed by law to solicit foreign aid for their campaign. Trump cannot hide behind the Executive branch to violate the law.

The law says donations or contributions. Try reading the law instead of assuming what it says.

Providing a service is a contribution.

Read the law. It says no such thing. Libtards read things in laws, transcripts, and articles that simply do not exist, yet swear it is there!

Where is the quid pro quo in the transcript of Trump's call to the Ukrainian president? Libtards swear it is there. Shifty Schiff swears it is there. Anyone with a room temp IQ can easily see that it is NOT there.

Types of contributions - FEC.gov

And the phone call is not the only evidence.

Great source, but it does not prove your allegation. Information about criminal wrongdoing is NOT mentioned anywhere, dumbass!

Try reading the actual law.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That has been readily documented in several cases, not just one. The ambassadors to Ukraine and the EU sent each other texts saying the aid was being withheld to see if the new administration in Ukraine was serious about corruption. They were, and the aid was restored. Fact. EOS.

Great, so what corruption did Trump discuss with Zelensky?

if you dont already know that you should shut up until you do,,,

LOLOLOL

That's the answer given by someone who doesn't want to admit the truth.

The truth you're avoiding is....

The corruption Trump was interested I'm Zelensky investigating was Biden and the DNC server.

Why were you too afraid to admit that?

Why don't you convince the millions of other libtards of that fact first?

The only ones who need convincing are the members of Congress. Which is why they're holding an impeachment inquiry.

No, they are holding a kangaroo court. Republicans have no rights under the current Nasty Pelousy plan.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so great. trump can setup a company to do this for him.

if you're gonna let one side bypass this for any stated reason, you must allow all. period. end of story. this one sided shit is killing us all and people are so quick to put the noose around their neck and kick out their own chair because they hate the other side so much they can't see they're really looking in a mirror.

I'm not letting anyone pass. Trump solicited aid from a foreign national. That's illegal.

Hillary solicited aid from Fusion GPS. They're an American firm and that's legal.

Fusion GPS solicited aid from a foreign national at Hillary's request for dirt on her opponent in an election That's illegal.

The President of the United States asked for cooperation from a foreign head of state, and that is perfectly legal.

That may be illegal. That would be a crime by Fusion GPS if it is.

The president cannot solicit foreign aid for his or her own campaign.

but he is responsible for defending the country from corruption,,, and running for office doesnt protect anyone from that,,,

We've been through this. The only corruption Trump asked Zelensky to look into involved Biden and the DNC server.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Read the transcript, you illiterate libtard!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So if Trump hires an American company to solicit campaign funds from foreign donors that would be perfectly legal using your logic?

Had he done that, it would have been illegal. He cannot hire an American company to hire a foreign national.

Hillary hired Fusion GPS
Fusion GPS hired Steele

where was he from again?

is this where we go "but this is different"?

Great, all you have to do now is prove she knew, and was involved with, Fusion GPS was hiring a foreign national and you can get her charged with a crime. Just think about what a hero you will be to the right if you can do that.

great. now apply that logic to most trump attacks.

seems proof is a one way street.

Nope, we have proof Trump solicited a foreign national to investigate Biden. We also have proof that Trump withheld the $390 million in security assistance for his campaign.

That is not a foreign national, but a head of state. I am sure that means nothing to you because you are the consummate imbecile.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm pretty certain it's illegal to hire a foreign national to contribute in any way to a candidate's campaign.

There are exceptions regarding foreign nationals if they volunteer; but even then, there are strict guidelines to what capacity they can participate to ensure they don't cross the line into contributing.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

Volunteer activity
Generally, an individual (including a foreign national) may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The Act provides this volunteer "exemption" as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone. The Commission has addressed applicability of this exemption to several situations involving volunteer activity by a foreign national, as explained below.​

The salient terms in all this are "contribution", and "influence". Foreigners cannot contribute, and cannot control or have significant influence over a campaign. However:

Experts told me that when it comes to campaign finance law, hiring or contracting a foreigner to do services for a campaign is allowed. “You can pay a foreign national to provide you with services, so a campaign, for instance, could have a campaign attorney who is a Canadian citizen,” Levinson said. “As long as you pay fair market rates for those services, that’s not what the federal campaign act says is prohibited. That’s just a fair exchange of money for services.”

If this kind of seems like a loophole, experts pointed out that it would be really hard to run a campaign otherwise. It would mean having to worry if the campaign signs you printed came from a foreign company, or if the catering firm you hired had foreign workers.

If a campaign is paying someone for work or services, they’re being compensated. But where that doesn’t happen, and a campaign is accepting a contribution — or “thing of value” — from a foreign government, the question then is what’s in it for them?​

It would be too funny if hiring Steele directly would be prohibited, but involving a middleman would make it all hunky-dory. That would be too obvious a loophole making the whole regulation perfectly toothless. Anyway, hiring a contractor at fair market rates is not a contribution, and as long as this subcontractor has no influence over what's done with the material, there is no campaign finance law violation - as far as I can discern. Of course, you'll probably find folks arguing the opposite, and most assuredly you can find Trumpletons screeching "foul."

Whatever, Trump's solicitation of dirt in his call to Zelensky is as clear a violation as it gets, and it is perfectly ludicrous that the sycophants at DoJ strained to find there was no violation because they couldn't determine the value of the solicited dirt. What a crock...

He didn't solicit "dirt", dumbass!

 

[Faun]

A candidate is not allowed by law to solicit foreign aid for their campaign. Trump cannot hide behind the Executive branch to violate the law.

The law says donations or contributions. Try reading the law instead of assuming what it says.

Providing a service is a contribution.

Read the law. It says no such thing. Libtards read things in laws, transcripts, and articles that simply do not exist, yet swear it is there!

Where is the quid pro quo in the transcript of Trump's call to the Ukrainian president? Libtards swear it is there. Shifty Schiff swears it is there. Anyone with a room temp IQ can easily see that it is NOT there.

Types of contributions - FEC.gov

And the phone call is not the only evidence.

Great source, but it does not prove your allegation. Information about criminal wrongdoing is NOT mentioned anywhere, dumbass!

Try reading the actual law.

 

[Faun]

I'm pretty certain it's illegal to hire a foreign national to contribute in any way to a candidate's campaign.

There are exceptions regarding foreign nationals if they volunteer; but even then, there are strict guidelines to what capacity they can participate to ensure they don't cross the line into contributing.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

Volunteer activity
Generally, an individual (including a foreign national) may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The Act provides this volunteer "exemption" as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone. The Commission has addressed applicability of this exemption to several situations involving volunteer activity by a foreign national, as explained below.​

The salient terms in all this are "contribution", and "influence". Foreigners cannot contribute, and cannot control or have significant influence over a campaign. However:

Experts told me that when it comes to campaign finance law, hiring or contracting a foreigner to do services for a campaign is allowed. “You can pay a foreign national to provide you with services, so a campaign, for instance, could have a campaign attorney who is a Canadian citizen,” Levinson said. “As long as you pay fair market rates for those services, that’s not what the federal campaign act says is prohibited. That’s just a fair exchange of money for services.”

If this kind of seems like a loophole, experts pointed out that it would be really hard to run a campaign otherwise. It would mean having to worry if the campaign signs you printed came from a foreign company, or if the catering firm you hired had foreign workers.

If a campaign is paying someone for work or services, they’re being compensated. But where that doesn’t happen, and a campaign is accepting a contribution — or “thing of value” — from a foreign government, the question then is what’s in it for them?​

It would be too funny if hiring Steele directly would be prohibited, but involving a middleman would make it all hunky-dory. That would be too obvious a loophole making the whole regulation perfectly toothless. Anyway, hiring a contractor at fair market rates is not a contribution, and as long as this subcontractor has no influence over what's done with the material, there is no campaign finance law violation - as far as I can discern. Of course, you'll probably find folks arguing the opposite, and most assuredly you can find Trumpletons screeching "foul."

Whatever, Trump's solicitation of dirt in his call to Zelensky is as clear a violation as it gets, and it is perfectly ludicrous that the sycophants at DoJ strained to find there was no violation because they couldn't determine the value of the solicited dirt. What a crock...

He didn't solicit "dirt", dumbass!

Of course he did. He already believes Biden acted illegally. Therefore, asking Zelensky to investigate the matter is merely the formality to lead to an indictment, otherwise known in campaign terms as "dirt."

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm pretty certain it's illegal to hire a foreign national to contribute in any way to a candidate's campaign.

There are exceptions regarding foreign nationals if they volunteer; but even then, there are strict guidelines to what capacity they can participate to ensure they don't cross the line into contributing.

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

Volunteer activity
Generally, an individual (including a foreign national) may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The Act provides this volunteer "exemption" as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone. The Commission has addressed applicability of this exemption to several situations involving volunteer activity by a foreign national, as explained below.​

The salient terms in all this are "contribution", and "influence". Foreigners cannot contribute, and cannot control or have significant influence over a campaign. However:

Experts told me that when it comes to campaign finance law, hiring or contracting a foreigner to do services for a campaign is allowed. “You can pay a foreign national to provide you with services, so a campaign, for instance, could have a campaign attorney who is a Canadian citizen,” Levinson said. “As long as you pay fair market rates for those services, that’s not what the federal campaign act says is prohibited. That’s just a fair exchange of money for services.”

If this kind of seems like a loophole, experts pointed out that it would be really hard to run a campaign otherwise. It would mean having to worry if the campaign signs you printed came from a foreign company, or if the catering firm you hired had foreign workers.

If a campaign is paying someone for work or services, they’re being compensated. But where that doesn’t happen, and a campaign is accepting a contribution — or “thing of value” — from a foreign government, the question then is what’s in it for them?​

It would be too funny if hiring Steele directly would be prohibited, but involving a middleman would make it all hunky-dory. That would be too obvious a loophole making the whole regulation perfectly toothless. Anyway, hiring a contractor at fair market rates is not a contribution, and as long as this subcontractor has no influence over what's done with the material, there is no campaign finance law violation - as far as I can discern. Of course, you'll probably find folks arguing the opposite, and most assuredly you can find Trumpletons screeching "foul."

Whatever, Trump's solicitation of dirt in his call to Zelensky is as clear a violation as it gets, and it is perfectly ludicrous that the sycophants at DoJ strained to find there was no violation because they couldn't determine the value of the solicited dirt. What a crock...

He didn't solicit "dirt", dumbass!

Of course he did. He already believes Biden acted illegally. Therefore, asking Zelensky to investigate the matter is merely the formality to lead to an indictment, otherwise known in campaign terms as "dirt."

Why does Biden get a pass because he is a candidate for the Democrat nomination? It would seem that there would be a deliberate ignorance of the law in that case. putting Biden above the law.