Let get the truth about South Africa

[IM2]

You can't handle the truth son. .

What did the Berlin Conference do to Africa?

In the short term, what the Berlin Conference did to Africa was divide it up between European imperial powers. In the long term, the Berlin Conference helped to ruin the continent, helping to bring about many of the problems that it faces today.

When the Berlin Conference was called in 1884, Africa was still largely ruled by Africans.

What did the Berlin Conference do to Africa? | eNotes

The Berlin Conference: Europeans’ Scheme to Divide and Control Africa

Fourteen European countries were represented by a plethora of ambassadors when the Berlin Conference opened on November 15, 1884 with the aim of negotiating over the control of Africa

By Matt Rosenberg (About.com) |

“The Berlin Conference was Africa’s undoing in more ways than one. The colonial powers superimposed their domains on the African continent. By the time independence returned to Africa in 1950, the realm had acquired a legacy of political fragmentation that could neither be eliminated nor made to operate satisfactorily.”*

The Berlin Conference: Europeans’ Scheme to Divide and Control Africa

The Colonization of Africa & the Berlin Conference

Often called 'Africa's undoing', the Berlin Conference saw the powers of Europe divide the African continent like young boys dividing up baseball cards. With little to no concern for the culture of the continent, maps were redrawn and lands were claimed. As Europe bickered over who got what, the native inhabitants of Africa watched as their culture was uprooted and destroyed.

Certainly you can post up what you like, but what you like is not going to be accepted as fact. You will accept all the reasons experts have said caused things in Zimbabwe, you don't have a choice. It doesn't matter what your ass knows how to avoid. No one gives a damn what you would support. Mugabe was elected because of the white authoritarian government that took rights from the people of Zimbabwe. Had Africa been left alone, had ****** kept his punk ass in Europe, Mugabe never would have come to power. That country existed 887 years before a white boy got there. They had a sucessful government and people ate well.

 

[pismoe]

as i said . check out the internet for info on any country in 'africa' , see video on life in 'africa' . See the plight of African people under 'african' rulers IM2 .

 

[gipper]

i just point out the starvation or huge price increases for food that i have HEARD happened in some 'african' countries after White farmers were run off . Course i have only HEARD of starvation in 'african' countries that killed or ran off their White farmers . I have also HEARD that some 'african' countries are asking for displaced White farmers to come to some 'african' areas to start farming again Paul .

Look. As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them

Black settlement in South Africa predated European by hundreds of years. Blacks had displaced Khoikhoi as far as the Fish river before Europeans first rounded the Cape. Bantus were in the areas currently occupied by the Zulu people as early as 250 BCE.

Also it's not just about farmland. You ignore the hundreds of thousands of people who were forcibly removed from urban areas. We are talking about home owners who had their land confiscated and their houses bulldozed because the area was declared whites only.

But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.

But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.

Even if (And this is a massive if) whites SA's hijacked the entire SA military there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.

As to the rest of the world's reaction:

This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago..

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

 

[Paul Essien]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[pismoe]

[chuckle] what is Twitter , i don't do that silliness . Hey , s. africa , you got it . It is yours with its Aids , baby girl rape and other maladies , ebola and other maladies that IM2 cries about and its all ok with me . To me , most of 'africa' is simply africa but you see it as a prize and thats ok with me . I simply like reading about its problems and politics , progress its leaders and native peoples Paul .

 

[pismoe]

where abouts in 'africa' do you live Paul ??

 

[gipper]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

You are entirely WRONG. You are a racist. I am not.

I have nothing against black people. I do find you appalling based not on the color of your skin, but the hateful racist rhetoric you spew on this forum.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

south africa to confiscate white owned land with no compensation and no slaughter for now . --- ‘It is nothing more than racist theft’ ---

------------------------------------------ and if you read through the article you will see the statement that they are not 'calling for SLAUGHTER of WHITES for Now .

Actually, someone has in a roundabout way ......

A white farmer is killed every five days in South Africa and authorities do nothing about it, activists say

 

[IM2]

south africa to confiscate white owned land with no compensation and no slaughter for now . --- ‘It is nothing more than racist theft’ ---

------------------------------------------ and if you read through the article you will see the statement that they are not 'calling for SLAUGHTER of WHITES for Now .

Actually, someone has in a roundabout way ......

A white farmer is killed every five days in South Africa and authorities do nothing about it, activists say

Last year 74 farmers were killed. Overall over 19.000 were killed in South Africa. The majority being killed are blacks. So 1 white farmer gets killed every 5 days and 300 blacks get killed every 5 days. That's the truth about South Africa.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

I've never understood this sort of attitude.

Assholes are assholes no matter what color their skin, no matter their ethnicity, no matter their tribe.

Good people are good people no matter what.

I've traveled a lot and found both good and bad everywhere.

 

[IM2]

as i said . check out the internet for info on any country in 'africa' , see video on life in 'africa' . See the plight of African people under 'african' rulers IM2 .

I know far more than you do about Africa.

The Africa They Never Show You.

 

[IM2]

i just point out the starvation or huge price increases for food that i have HEARD happened in some 'african' countries after White farmers were run off . Course i have only HEARD of starvation in 'african' countries that killed or ran off their White farmers . I have also HEARD that some 'african' countries are asking for displaced White farmers to come to some 'african' areas to start farming again Paul .

Look. As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them

Black settlement in South Africa predated European by hundreds of years. Blacks had displaced Khoikhoi as far as the Fish river before Europeans first rounded the Cape. Bantus were in the areas currently occupied by the Zulu people as early as 250 BCE.

Also it's not just about farmland. You ignore the hundreds of thousands of people who were forcibly removed from urban areas. We are talking about home owners who had their land confiscated and their houses bulldozed because the area was declared whites only.

But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.

But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.

Even if (And this is a massive if) whites SA's hijacked the entire SA military there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.

As to the rest of the world's reaction:

This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago..

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

Since that wasn't happening,,,,,,

 

[Marion Morrison]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

And they'll promptly turn it into a shithole.

 

[pismoe]

as i said . check out the internet for info on any country in 'africa' , see video on life in 'africa' . See the plight of African people under 'african' rulers IM2 .

I know far more than you do about Africa.

The Africa They Never Show You.

--------------------------------------------- so now its 'botswanna' eh ?? I thought that this thread was about 's. africa and Rhodesia / zimbabwe IM2 ,

 

[IM2]

as i said . check out the internet for info on any country in 'africa' , see video on life in 'africa' . See the plight of African people under 'african' rulers IM2 .

I know far more than you do about Africa.

The Africa They Never Show You.

--------------------------------------------- so now its 'botswanna' eh ?? I yhought that this thread was about 's. africa and Rhodesia / zimbabwe IM2 ,

This thread is about South Africa. The is no Rhodesia.

 

[IM2]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

And they'll promptly turn it into a shithole.

It was a shithole during apartheid.

 

[gipper]

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

You have much to be thankful for...for whites saving your worthless black ass.

The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't care for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't care for black people the way I do. Two historical enemies will never will never see eye to eye

But end of the day. You moaning on twitter is as effective as farthing in a windstorm. The land is coming back to black people in SA and there is nothing you can do about it.

And they'll promptly turn it into a shithole.

It was a shithole during apartheid.

Not right, though I suspect your views are tainted by race...as usual.

When Mandela was elected to govern South Africa in 1994, he appointed elected parliamentarians such as communist party leader Joe Slovo to high-ranking government posts. South Africa now has a high rate of taxation, restrictive labor laws, is Africa's largest welfare state and has Africa's largest, most politically well-connected and politically influential labor union movement. As a result of the new South Africa's restrictive labor laws and affirmative action policies, a large number of educated white South Africans chose to emigrate to other nations. This response angered and dismayed former president Mandela, who had previously acknowledged that South Africa needed its educated white population to help rebuild the nation's economy.

Affirmative action achieved in the new South Africa what job apartheid had achieved in the old South Africa. In the old South Africa, certain professions had been reserved for "whites only," meaning that only qualified and educated white people could be hired to fill selected vacant posts during the 1960's and 1970's. As a result, large numbers of educated non-white South Africans that included professionals as well as trained and qualified non-white tradespeople, emigrated abroad to where greater freedom of opportunity was available to them in several other nations. The more recent emigration of entrepreneurial types from South Africa has impacted on the unemployment rate.

At the present day, an estimated 42% or 8-million employable non-white South Africans are unemployed. The unemployment among this segment of the population is higher today than at any time during the apartheid era. During the mid-1970's, the United Nations revealed that despite apartheid and despite South Africa's disparity in wage rates, black people in South Africa earned a higher per capita annual income than black people living elsewhere in sub-Sahara Africa. During the 1980's and early 1990's, the anti-apartheid movement promoted the concept of "revolution before education," encouraging thousands of non-white students to abandon their formal schooling.

Many mainly non-white South Africans have never attended a school, including thousands in the 20 to 30 age group who are deemed to be unemployable in an economy that presently has little need for an abundance of unskilled manual labor. This situation has contributed to South Africa's skyrocketing crime rate which has reached epidemic levels. Following South Africa's ban on gun ownership, disarmed citizens in record numbers have fallen victim to crime, including to armed gangs of criminals. This crime epidemic has not only overwhelmed a police force coping with low morale and a high officer suicide rate, it has also discouraged foreign as well as expatriate entrepreneurs and business people from bringing new investment into South Africa, to further develop and grow the economy.

The Saga of South Africa's Economy | Harry Valentine

 

[pismoe]

thank you . As an aside , just yesterday i saw video of 'slovo' and 'mandela' and a group singing 'get me my machine gun and kill the Boer' .

 

[gipper]

thank you . As an aside , just yesterday i saw video of 'slovo' and 'mandela' and a group singing 'get me my machine gun and kill the Boer' .

Sounds much like they do in America...they are a murderous bunch.


12/13/2014 - "Million Marchers" in Murray Hill neighborhood of NYC chant: "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!"

 

[Paul Essien]

You say this

You are entirely WRONG. You are a racist. I am not.

But then you say this

If whites hadn't come to Africa, you would still be running around naked being chased by lions.

If you can’t see the irony embedded in these remarks. After all, to deny that you have no racism to black people, and then to cut loose with a racist generalization about black people is the epitome of self-contradiction, then you’re probably not prepared to enter a dialogue about much of anything.

I have nothing against black people.

There are three kinds of white racist

1) White bigots - They hate blacks. They use the n-word. They have views that even most whites would regard as racist. What blacks would call being openly racist. Examples: The Klan, David Duke, the American history X type.

2) White implicit racists – They do not hate blacks. But they still think black people are messed up and whites are not. They see black people less moral and intelligent and more violent.

These are the the type who ACT RACIST - WHEN REQUIRED.

Why ? Because you do not want to become an outcast among white people, particularly the white people in your own family or at school or work

Because racism is bad and most whites are not bad people, most whites cannot be racist. So racism is dead.

Therefore something must be wrong with black people. (Crime stats, IQ, white inventor arguments)

3) Whites with integrity – These are whites are trying to unlearn their racism. Examples: John Brown, Tim Wise.

On USMB I would guess that:

• 10% are white bigots,
• 89% are white implicit racists
• 1% are whites with integrity.

Your racism is implicit that is, it's pretty much like the majority of white people.