Legit Political Question For 2012, Are the "birthers" and is the "Tea Party" Racist?

[Annie]

The left wing spreads the false propaganda that the right wing is racist (amazing total projection on their part) and use it to win elections. An election is brewing for 2012. the tea party will turn out their ground game like they did in 2010 when they slaughtered the democrats who took the worst spanking in 70 years, and the birthers have influenced states to pass laws that will make Obama's citizenship very much a central point of political mechanics for that election. So how is not legit?

So the first election where the Tea Parties were a force, the left with all their catcalls of 'racists,' lost. So they didn't use it to 'win,' as they lost. The same, according to you will happen again, thus it's not a question, but a rant.

They lost in the aggregate but have used it to effect in 2010, and have used it to great success for 30 years. Read it, Annie. Learn the truths about the lies of the left that everyone will know by 2012. No rant - just fact, and facts cannot be a rant, even when typed in bold. Learn, Annie, and have a great day.

Sorry guy, you want to post race stuff, do it in the right forum. Please note, you'll like William a lot and he you!

 

[rightwinger]

Some Birthers are racist....the rest are just nutzoid conspiracy theorists

 

[Toro]

I never read posts that are written in big bold text. I find they are, without fail, written by attention seeking ******* morons who have the intellectual capacity of a ******* house plant.

Just sayin'.

You hit the nail on the head with that one.

 

[GStarz]

If all you liberals think that you're fooling anyone by attacking the style of the posting instead of the substance, from which you're cowardly running away, the word off the board from people is it's hilariously obvious. Your refusal to discuss the content is educating lots of fence-sitters on the issue. It's almost as obvious as Obama's defenders pretending that there is nothing wrong with a president spending taxpayer money to keep from not qualifying his eligibility even while new laws are looming which will compel him to do so or forfeit a place on their ballots.

Cowardly 'anti-birthers' - the liberal Huffington Post is right - there is nothing weirder than you lot!

 

[rightwinger]

If all you liberals think that you're fooling anyone by attacking the style of the posting instead of the substance, from which you're cowardly running away, the word off the board from people is it's hilariously obvious. Your refusal to discuss the content is educating lots of fence-sitters on the issue. It's almost as obvious as Obama's defenders pretending that there is nothing wrong with a president spending taxpayer money to keep from not qualifying his eligibility even while new laws are looming which will compel him to do so or forfeit a place on their ballots.

Cowardly 'anti-birthers' - the liberal Huffington Post is right - there is nothing weirder than you lot!

Not bad.......now if you will turn off the bold maybe I will read it

I have ignored better posters than you for the distracting way they post

 

[GStarz]

If all you liberals think that you're fooling anyone by attacking the style of the posting instead of the substance, from which you're cowardly running away, the word off the board from people is it's hilariously obvious. Your refusal to discuss the content is educating lots of fence-sitters on the issue. It's almost as obvious as Obama's defenders pretending that there is nothing wrong with a president spending taxpayer money to keep from not qualifying his eligibility even while new laws are looming which will compel him to do so or forfeit a place on their ballots.

Cowardly 'anti-birthers' - the liberal Huffington Post is right - there is nothing weirder than you lot!

Not bad.......now if you will turn off the bold maybe I will read it

I have ignored better posters than you for the distracting way they post

I honestly don't give a shit if an asshole like Rightwinger reads it or not. This is for people with a brain.

 

[rightwinger]

Some Birthers are racist....the rest are just nutzoid conspiracy theorists

Now as to the Tea Party....they are not racist. They are just the victims of left wing infiltrators.....LOTS of em

 

[GStarz]

Some Birthers are racist....the rest are just nutzoid conspiracy theorists

Now as to the Tea Party....they are not racist. They are just the victims of left wing infiltrators.....LOTS of em

Okay, if you want to actually talk:

1. Did you read the main post and watch the video clips?

2. Are liberal democrats equally proportionate to the right wing in terms of proportion of racists?

3. Conspiracy theorists? Some may well be. The ones i know and myself make no assumptions - we just follow what manning said, though not because he said it, "Just turn over the birth certificate, man". Like the Huffington post. Like chris matthews. Now I assume you have a problem with that. Why? Remember, he isn;t just holding on to it, he's spending big money - our money - on lawyers to make sure no one sees it. What's wrong with saying "turn it over"?

 

[Wingsofwind]

I had to scroll down 10 times to get to the end of the OP.

Originally, I thought your question was serious. But if you are yelling and posting a dozen youtube videos, then its not. Who has the time?

And start posting like an adult. Unless you have some sort of visual problem, continuously posting in bold and large script makes you look like a clown.

Don't have time? Ya, I can see that. Too busy responding to multiple threads to read ONE larger post. How much time to you spend posting on forums? Maybe taking some time to actually read something that is not any longer than the screen may do some good.

And BTW, if he used the default font it would not have looked as long. Would you have read it then? I doubt it.

 

[Sheldon]

Tardz, I didn't read your OP because your font shows up real small and the bold makes it bleed together on my screen. I've read plenty of retarded posts on this forum, and I would read yours too if you just posted like a normal person. As to the thread title--

Legit Political Question For 2012, Are the "birthers" and is the "Tea Party" Racist?

This really is not, imo, a legit political question in 2012. It is a distracting issue for both sides. The candidates and the pundits and the electorate should focus on the issues and policies, not the politics of labeling and of victimization. Your 'legit political question' would really just be a red herring.

 

[GStarz]

I had to scroll down 10 times to get to the end of the OP.

Originally, I thought your question was serious. But if you are yelling and posting a dozen youtube videos, then its not. Who has the time?

And start posting like an adult. Unless you have some sort of visual problem, continuously posting in bold and large script makes you look like a clown.

Don't have time? Ya, I can see that. Too busy responding to multiple threads to read ONE larger post. How much time to you spend posting on forums? Maybe taking some time to actually read something that is not any longer than the screen may do some good.

And BTW, if he used the default font it would not have looked as long. Would you have read it then? I doubt it.

Thank you.

There is a pattern here seen elsewhere, but never, IMO, to such a degree; talking essentially past the poster and the content with hit and run messages at the poster, but clearly intended to influence third party readers. This is generally called propaganda. We know it's out there like a cancer on every political message board, but I've never seen it on such a scale and in such a childish, playground manner. (sure, I "curse' and "cuss" here like a sailor on leave, but I find the word "racism" among the worst insults known to man, so the occasional "**** you" is appropriate to them - but not youi! When someone makes that accusation out-of-hand, I feel "**** you" is the nicest way to bring the conversation back down to earth)

It isn't that they are not reading the longer content and watching the videos. I have no doubt most are - anyone so rabidly partisan would be unable to resist a post that makes such a dangerous counter-claim about their effective methodology of dehumanizing the enemy. What worries them to death is that others will read it. Calling a right winger racist has become such a common, albeit utterly revolting, tactic by the left that you see it casually done by leftists in the mainstream media, let alone places like this.

Last November saw the democrats go down in defeat on a scale few imagined - literally the worst in 70 years. It was an utter repudiation of Obama and the democrats overall. That frightens the left, and that fear enrages them. Now along comes a post or two that carefully lays out in painful specificity how that accusation of racism by the left is a lie, and even worse, why it is indeed the democrats, embracing and giving chairmanships to someone as grossly racially bigoted toward blacks as Byrd (the "democratic south", as it was known for generations, home of the KKK) will enrage them, and leave them posting things like "I didn't read it" and "I won't watch the videos" in an attempt to produce a group-think to likewise bypass the facts.

Anyway, thanks for inferring a pro-quality not anti-quantity viewpoint into the proceedings. Having obviously looked through some of the evidence, are you convinced that the term "racist" simply cannot be legitimately applied to the tea Party and so-called "Birthers" to any greater degree than to the democrats themselves, like Bill Clinton, justifying Byrd's officership (he leaves that part out) in the KKK because he 'wanted to get elected"?

Obama's Marxist/terrorist associations and the hypocrisy of calling the right-wing 'racist" - if the truth of these two realities become common, mainstream knowledge by the public into 2012, the landslide defeat of the democrats in 2010 will look like a Sunday picnic when average America, not to mention the youth vote, specifically, comes to realize the extent to which they have been calculatingly and cold-bloodly manipulated by the left to a degree not seen since the Nazi mainstream media so caricatured the jews that regarding them as so loathsome as to be exterminated was deemed an unpleasant necessity.

Or to put it in the short form street vernacular, when someone calls someone else a racist, they better the **** be able to back it up.

 

[IanC]

GStarz- I agree with the posters who have criticized your font, bold and length of posts. if you dont want people to read your posts why do you put them up? it is a sign of courtesy and respect to make posts easily readable.

 

[L.K.Eder]

OP needs to feature a bigger font and moar colors. moar of everything, actually.

especially some youtube vids would be nice.

 

[GStarz]

GStarz- I agree with the posters who have criticized your font, bold and length of posts. if you dont want people to read your posts why do you put them up? it is a sign of courtesy and respect to make posts easily readable.

The people who agree with the content have made no complaints about the posting style. I have also used this font style previously for dozens of posts with no one complaining about the readability, but is only now being objected to on a post with substantial manifest evidence that the tea party and "birthers" are not racist, but the democrats often are. I'll stick with the style. Save us the distraction and hypocrisy and stay OT.

By the way, here is a little of the FEC reporting of the expenses paid to the law firm on public money which Obama has engaged to keep from allowing the public who earned that money to see his citizenship records, and what amounts to a cease and desist letter from the law firm to one of the plaintiffs. All this instead of simply showing his long form birth certificate the way John McCain did without a fuss when the democrats demanded that same documentation from him. This is why so-called "birthers" do what they do. It has nothing to do with racial anything. The degree to which Obama's behavior has triggered "probable cause" is now off the chart.

 

[GStarz]

A little of the FEC reported expenditures to the law firm defending Obama from disclosing his records to the citizens who are paying the lawyers.

 

[Toro]

I had to scroll down 10 times to get to the end of the OP.

Originally, I thought your question was serious. But if you are yelling and posting a dozen youtube videos, then its not. Who has the time?

And start posting like an adult. Unless you have some sort of visual problem, continuously posting in bold and large script makes you look like a clown.

Don't have time? Ya, I can see that. Too busy responding to multiple threads to read ONE larger post. How much time to you spend posting on forums? Maybe taking some time to actually read something that is not any longer than the screen may do some good.

And BTW, if he used the default font it would not have looked as long. Would you have read it then? I doubt it.

You would be wrong.

Besides, I've read enough of GTardz posts and watched enough of his dumb videos to know what's coming.

 

[Toro]

Tardz, I didn't read your OP because your font shows up real small and the bold makes it bleed together on my screen. I've read plenty of retarded posts on this forum, and I would read yours too if you just posted like a normal person. As to the thread title--

Legit Political Question For 2012, Are the "birthers" and is the "Tea Party" Racist?

This really is not, imo, a legit political question in 2012. It is a distracting issue for both sides. The candidates and the pundits and the electorate should focus on the issues and policies, not the politics of labeling and of victimization. Your 'legit political question' would really just be a red herring.

As it pertains to the question in the OP, I don't think the Tea Party nor birfers are necessarily racist, but I do think you'll find more racists are birfers than the general population.

Skippy will get all upset at this assertion, but does one honestly believe that members of, say, the KKK, are more likely to believe that Obama was born in the US and is eligible to be President than the general population? C'mon. It's simple confirmation bias. According to one poll, a majority of likely primary Republican voters thought that Obama wasn't born in America. Republicans in general are more likely to believe that Obama isn't eligible to be President. I am NOT implying that Republicans are racists. But it is human nature to believe bad things about your opponents or enemies than it is your friends or allies. Democrats are more likely to believe Bush was behind 9/11, for example, which is nonsensical. So, since racists are more likely to oppose Obama, they are more likely to believe negative things about Obama, and are more likely to be birfers.

 

[Ravi]

Use restraint when using bold type.
Whole paragraphs of text set in bold type are hard to read. The reason bold type creates emphasis is that it slows down the reader and forces their eye to really take in the words more carefully. But if you slow them down too much they may just skip over what you have to say.

Bold Fonts - How to Use Bold Fonts Effectively in Page Layout

 

[Lonestar_logic]

im not reading this

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[GStarz]

IMPORTANT: Conservatives Please Take note:


Pay very close attention to the continuing pattern, here, because this place, with it's overwhelming number of liberals to conservatives, is a gorgeous petri dish to test arguments for the larger population:

3 pages of responses and not one liberal has commented on the content of the OT. Not one.

This will be my 370th post, and not until this thread has anyone complained that my posts, with the over-sized bold, were too difficult to read and/or absorb the content. Not one. I've been mocked a few times by valueless 'tards like Skippy/Toro, of course, who fancies himself a riverboat gambler, throwing out $10,000.00 wager challenges anonymously on a ******* message board (what a jerk, seriously), but mocked for simply using the type style - no one has complained about the readability. That's the primary reason I've used it; to double-blind the experiment leading up to this thread.

SUDDENLY, liberals cannot debate the substance because the bold font is too difficult to read, after hundreds of other posts done just like it.

The true and actual reason that the liberals are trying to turn this conversation into one of style critique is that they know the facts in the first post condemn liberals as unconscionable, lying racists themselves, proving that conservatives are not racist and that they - the liberal democrats - are indeed the ones that have the worst offending racists among the top echelon of their own "elder statesmen".

Conservatives on this board should pile on and copy and paste the first post of this thread everywhere on the internet. The verdict is in: this material has reduced liberals to a complete state of OT silence because they cannot rebut the qualified facts the videos - of liberals and blacks speaking in their own words - absolutely quantitatively prove.

As predicted as well in the OT, liberals are trying to keep third parties from watching the videos by saying that the videos are lies (how a video that proves a person said something when that is the point of the illustration can be a lie is beyond rational thought, but liberals have never been very good at thinking, otherwise they'd be conservatives), "I've seen his videos before" and in true form, other hit-and-run dismissive attacks in an attempt to lead a group mindset away from the facts manifestly - manifestly, not concluded - illustrated by the very fact of the videos themselves, not just their nuanced content - that conservatives are not racists and top-dog liberal democrat politicians are indeed, racists..

300-plus posts and now suddenly the liberals here cannot read and comprehend the content of something written in bold typeface. Uh-huh. Sure. right.

Lying, worthless, racist assholes. That's what liberals are. As their responses in this thread shows, you can take that to the bank.

Use the information in the first post wherever you can. 2012 is around the corner. November 2010 was just the beginning. It's time to circumvent the mainstream media and bury this socialist liberal democrat party once and for all. The experiment on this board has been concluded; the liberals cannot debate these utterly damning facts, so use them and use them often, anytime and anywhere you can, and be sure younger voters see these as well. Younger voters may not be swayed to vote GOP, but their heartbreak and disappointment at having the liberal lies proved to be lies will keep them home on election day. it's been proven: this material works. Use it.