Left wing group bailing out violent criminals, including guy who gave 13 year old the gun that got him killed by police.

You need to stop lying. The kid threw the gun away and wheeled on the cop (who never saw that being as it was dark and there was a chase going on). Gave up? Fuck off with your bullshit idiot.

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Hands Up... Don't shoot.
 
As usual the point goes right over your pointy head. The cop will not lose his job no matter how much you wish it you Anti-American,anti-cop pig. Nor will there be any jail time you idiot. Petty crime? Let’s allow a kid to shoot a gun at your car and see how you react. Good work, showing everybody how stupid you are once again.

This cop will lose his job, not matter how it turns out. He MIGHT not get put on trial, we'll see.

Weren't you right wingers the ones who made David Koresh and Randy Weaver into folk heroes after they shot it out with federal agents.

Oh. Wait. They were white. Silly Darkie. Rights are for white people.
 
what is "abusing the tax code" did they break any laws?

No I was referring to the targetting by the Obama admin of groups that threatened them.

Actually, they did break the law. The law states that if you are running a political pac, you have to disclose the names of your donors, but if you are running a social welfare agency, you don't. The Koch Brothers and their Teabagger cutouts were passing themselves off as social welfare organizations and doing politics. This is what Lerner was calling bullshit on, and then Obama, still trying to get the love of Republicans for some reason, called her off.
Can you provide the code section for us that makes that requirment?

Why did the IRS acknowledge their wrongdoing?

" The IRS admits that its treatment of Plaintiffs during the tax-exempt determinations process, including screening their applications based on their names or policy positions, subjecting those applications to heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays, and demanding of some Plaintiffs’ information that TIGTA determined was unnecessary to the agency’s determination of their tax-exempt status, was wrong. For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology "

I am not surprised that you continue to defend your tyrannical Messiah's abuse of power
 
No.....they took conservative groups and simply refused to grant tax status to them no matter how much paperwork they filled out, and in many cases, sent the alphabet agencies after them...

Quite the contrary, they called the Koch Brothers on their attempted money laundering and then backed down when the Right Wing Media whined about it.

Within the law, they were perfectly right. They weren't entitled to the tax exemptions they were seeking under 501(c)(3).


What should have happened, they should have charged the people with Tax Fraud and marched them out in handcuffs, then offered them deals to flip on the Koch Brothers. Then send the Koch Brothers to big boy prison and lock them up with a well-endowed cell mate and a jar of Vaseline.

On second thought, forget about the Vaseline.
 
Can you provide the code section for us that makes that requirment?

It did just above.



In order to qualify as a tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) organization, a nonprofit must exist for one or more exclusively charitable purposes:

  • Religious
  • Charitable
  • Scientific
  • Testing for Public Safety
  • Literary
  • Educational
  • Fostering of national or international amateur sports, and
  • Prevention of cruelty to animals and children

NOT POLITICS!!!!

Why did the IRS acknowledge their wrongdoing?

Sadly, because liberals tend to be wimps. They don't realize you need to play hardball with evil people.

Case in point. The Koch Assholes are willing to doom future generations to live in a Global Warming Hellscape so they can make money now.
 
what is "abusing the tax code" did they break any laws?

No I was referring to the targetting by the Obama admin of groups that threatened them.

Actually, they did break the law. The law states that if you are running a political pac, you have to disclose the names of your donors, but if you are running a social welfare agency, you don't. The Koch Brothers and their Teabagger cutouts were passing themselves off as social welfare organizations and doing politics. This is what Lerner was calling bullshit on, and then Obama, still trying to get the love of Republicans for some reason, called her off.


That's not what happened you lying sack of shit........they were kept from getting their tax free status to keep them from being active during the election cycle, you lying asshat...

May 14, 2013 at 11:43 a.m. CDT
Last Friday, the IRS admitted that it targeted nonprofit political advocacy groups with the terms "tea party" or "patriot" in their names.

That prompted widespread denunciations of the agency for political bias, culminating Monday with President Obama calling the conduct "outrageous."
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They had to provide a large amount of information to keep that status. From Eilperin's report:

Toby Marie Walker, president of the Waco Tea Party, said the IRS subjected her group to a series of unreasonable requests after it applied for tax-exempt status in June 2010. The requests came in early 2012, Walker said, after being initially informed by an official in the Cincinnati field office that he was “sitting on a stack of tea party applications and they were awaiting word from higher-ups as to how to process them.”
The agency asked the group’s treasurer to supply information on its “close relationship” with current candidates and elected officials as well as future candidates, along with detailed information about its contributors and members. It also asked for transcripts of any radio interviews its officials had done and hard copies of any news articles mentioning them.
“That would take me years to do,” Walker said, noting that in some cases, Chinese media outlets referred to her organization. “Am I responsible for every news article across the globe?”
The group had even more difficulty providing transcripts and details of speakers at its events, since they hosted informal gatherings such as “rant contests” where anyone could come and express their views.

While the IRS awarded the Waco Tea Party tax-exempt status about six weeks ago, Walker said the group was now considering suing the agency since the process not only consumed time and effort but prompted the group to scale back its 2012 get-out-the-vote operation. “We were afraid to do it and get in trouble,” she said.

Were liberal groups targeted?

Apparently not, though Emerge America, a liberal group that trains female Democratic candidates, lost its tax-exempt status last year when the IRS judged it too partial to the Democratic Party.






 
Can you provide the code section for us that makes that requirment?

It did just above.



In order to qualify as a tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) organization, a nonprofit must exist for one or more exclusively charitable purposes:

  • Religious
  • Charitable
  • Scientific
  • Testing for Public Safety
  • Literary
  • Educational
  • Fostering of national or international amateur sports, and
  • Prevention of cruelty to animals and children

NOT POLITICS!!!!

Why did the IRS acknowledge their wrongdoing?

Sadly, because liberals tend to be wimps. They don't realize you need to play hardball with evil people.

Case in point. The Koch Assholes are willing to doom future generations to live in a Global Warming Hellscape so they can make money now.


More...you lying sack of shit...

April 19, 2010 — A “Sensitive Case Report” on the targeted tea party groups is shared with Lerner. This is the first time a top IRS official is given details about the spike in tea party applications.

June and July 2011 — Lerner is briefed that employees are using search terms such as “tea party,” “patriots,” “9/12 Project,” “government spending,” “government debt,” “taxes” and “make America a better place to live” to flag applications. Lerner, after learning about the search terms, tells the Cincinnati office to revise its guidelines for flagging applications. The guidance is expanded to include “organizations involved with political, lobbying, or advocacy for exemption under 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(4).”

Also in June, Lerner’s hard drive crashes, erasing two years worth of emails investigators deem vital to their probes.
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May 2013 — The scandal erupts when, at the request of Miller, Lerner responds to a planted question by apologizing for disparate treatment at an American Bar Association meeting in Washington.

“That was wrong. That was absolutely incorrect; it was insensitive, and it was inappropriate. That’s not how we go about selecting cases for further review,” Lerner says on May 10.


 
That's not what happened you lying sack of shit........they were kept from getting their tax free status to keep them from being active during the election cycle, you lying asshat...

May 14, 2013 at 11:43 a.m. CDT
Last Friday, the IRS admitted that it targeted nonprofit political advocacy groups with the terms "tea party" or "patriot" in their names.

Yes, YES... WHen you are applying for a CHARITABLE status, and you are using POLITICAL TERMS in your organizational names, it's pretty clear your intent is to violate the laws as written.

That's what tax auditors are supposed to do. They are supposed to review forms and say, "Hey, that doesn't look right!!!!"

The Teabaggers would have had no problem if they had filed as a political non-profit instead of a charitable one. But then they'd have to disclose they were astroturf organizations getting money from the Koch Brothers and other rich dillweeds.
 
As usual the point goes right over your pointy head. The cop will not lose his job no matter how much you wish it you Anti-American,anti-cop pig. Nor will there be any jail time you idiot. Petty crime? Let’s allow a kid to shoot a gun at your car and see how you react. Good work, showing everybody how stupid you are once again.

This cop will lose his job, not matter how it turns out. He MIGHT not get put on trial, we'll see.

Weren't you right wingers the ones who made David Koresh and Randy Weaver into folk heroes after they shot it out with federal agents.

Oh. Wait. They were white. Silly Darkie. Rights are for white people.
Poor uneducated racist. First of all, answer the question why a 13 year old was out at 2:30 am shooting a gun and running from cops moron. There will be no trial and no charges you Anti-cop birdbrain. Typical of racists like you to ignore facts and cry racism. Then wonder why we laugh at you.
 
Run with gun, wheel on cop, get your Darwin. You lose again asshole.

I'm sure the cop will feel like a "winner" after he loses his job and goes to prison.

Poor uneducated racist. First of all, answer the question why a 13 year old was out at 2:30 am shooting a gun and running from cops moron. There will be no trial and no charges you Anti-cop birdbrain. Typical of racists like you to ignore facts and cry racism. Then wonder why we laugh at you.

Uh, I can tell you right now, living here, there's little or no sympathy for this cop. The Mayor pretty much threw him under the bus.
 
Run with gun, wheel on cop, get your Darwin. You lose again asshole.

I'm sure the cop will feel like a "winner" after he loses his job and goes to prison.

Poor uneducated racist. First of all, answer the question why a 13 year old was out at 2:30 am shooting a gun and running from cops moron. There will be no trial and no charges you Anti-cop birdbrain. Typical of racists like you to ignore facts and cry racism. Then wonder why we laugh at you.

Uh, I can tell you right now, living here, there's little or no sympathy for this cop. The Mayor pretty much threw him under the bus.


The mayor throws all the cops under the bus...which is why the cops aren't doing their jobs anymore and crime is going through the roof...you moron.
 
The mayor throws all the cops under the bus...which is why the cops aren't doing their jobs anymore and crime is going through the roof...you moron.

They weren't doing their jobs before she got there.

City paid out $118,000,000 to settle police brutality claims in 2018.


Meanwhile the murder clearance rate in 2018 was 15%. This is all before Lori Lightfoot got there.


Of course, crime is going through the roof. You guys finally got Chicago's gun laws thrown out, and the NRA is flooding out streets with guns.

You feel safer yet.

I do, because I moved out to the suburbs years ago!!!
 
No.....they took conservative groups and simply refused to grant tax status to them no matter how much paperwork they filled out, and in many cases, sent the alphabet agencies after them...

Quite the contrary, they called the Koch Brothers on their attempted money laundering and then backed down when the Right Wing Media whined about it.

Within the law, they were perfectly right. They weren't entitled to the tax exemptions they were seeking under 501(c)(3).


What should have happened, they should have charged the people with Tax Fraud and marched them out in handcuffs, then offered them deals to flip on the Koch Brothers. Then send the Koch Brothers to big boy prison and lock them up with a well-endowed cell mate and a jar of Vaseline.

On second thought, forget about the Vaseline.
Why wouldn't they qualify under your link? Which ones Koch organizations in particular are you talking about?

and why did the IRS admit they were wrong...if you claim they were right?
 
The mayor throws all the cops under the bus...which is why the cops aren't doing their jobs anymore and crime is going through the roof...you moron.

They weren't doing their jobs before she got there.

City paid out $118,000,000 to settle police brutality claims in 2018.


Meanwhile the murder clearance rate in 2018 was 15%. This is all before Lori Lightfoot got there.


Of course, crime is going through the roof. You guys finally got Chicago's gun laws thrown out, and the NRA is flooding out streets with guns.

You feel safer yet.

I do, because I moved out to the suburbs years ago!!!

Meanwhile the murder clearance rate in 2018 was 15%. This is all before Lori Lightfoot got there.


Moron....the democrats have controlled Chicago since 1931, and lightfoot is no different from the rest....and she has openly mocked the police ....

Of course, crime is going through the roof. You guys finally got Chicago's gun laws thrown out, and the NRA is flooding out streets with guns.

Moron.......the reason gun crime is a problem in Chicago is the democrat party judges, and prosecutors keep releasing the gang members doing all of the shooting.......the gangs also are working with the local aldermen......so attacking the police, ties to gangs by the politicians, and releasing the gang shooters over and over again causes gun crime...

Normal people owning guns for self defense has no impact on the gun crime rate, you moron...

This is Chicago...releasing violent gun criminals over and over again..


A suburban man who’s accused of running onto the field during a White Sox game Friday evening got a good taste of Chicago’s judicial system priorities when a judge ordered him held on a higher bail than some accused gun offenders received during the same felony bond court session.
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Navarro on Saturday ordered 19-year-old Liam Wolfer held in lieu of $5,000 bail on a charge of criminal trespass to a place of public amusement after prosecutors said the Plainfield resident dodged security officers while dashing from one foul pole to the other as the South Siders faced the Texas Rangers.
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Wolfer sounds like a jerk, and DUI is an offense that can kill innocents. But in this instance, for disrupting a ball game, why does his offense merit higher bail than these people on the same day in the same courtroom:


During the same hearing, Navarro released no fewer than three men accused of felony illegal gun possession on their own recognizance — no money down, according to court records.
Or the same bail as:


Navarro allowed three other alleged gun offenders to go home for the same amount Wolfer had to pay.
These bail decisions have real consequences:


Records maintained by CWBChicago show that at least 17 people have been charged with murder, attempted murder, or shooting someone while out of jail on affordable bail amounts set by Navarro since 2019. That’s far more than any of the other five judges who handle Chicago’s felony bond court hearings.


Man who ran across field during Chicago White Sox game held on higher bail than people charged with illegal gun possession

A man who’s on probation for illegal gun possession and on bond for a pending charge of being a felon in possession of a firearm was arrested at the Roosevelt Red Line station after police found yet another gun in his waistband and $500 worth of crack in his shoe, prosecutors said.

Kenny Crowder, 33, is charged with a fresh count of unlawful use of a weapon by a felon and possession of a controlled substance.

Man on probation for one gun case and on bail for another gun case had a gun at Roosevelt CTA station, prosecutors say | CWB Chicago


Chicago....

Chicago police on Tuesday arrested Clarence Hebron, a convicted murderer who has been wanted in connection with a double-slaying in suburban Riverdale in November. Hebron was out of jail on “affordable bail” for reckless homicide and two separate counts of armed habitual criminal when police said he killed his 26-year-old girlfriend, Jessica Beal, and her 27-year-old brother, Damien, on November 27.

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His extensive criminal background includes a 2007 conviction for second-degree murder in which he and his cousin fatally shot a man, D’Antignac said Wednesday.
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At the time of the Beals’ murders, Hebron was awaiting trial for allegedly killing a woman with his car as he fled from police in April 2019. At the time of that incident, he was already on bail for two separate counts of Class X armed habitual criminal, according to court records.

Cops arrest man wanted for double-murder while on "affordable bail" for reckless homicide and 2 gun cases | CWB Chicago



Chicago..

A Chicago man shot and killed a 16-year-old rival gang member over a haircut last week while on affordable bail for discharging a handgun, prosecutors said.

Jesus Moro, 21, is the eighth person charged with killing or shooting someone in Chicago this year while on bail for other serious felonies.

Prosecutors said 16-year-old Julian Castillo, a member of the Two Six street gang, was visiting a man on the first floor of a home in Chicago Lawn last Friday evening while Moro, a Latin King gang member, was on the second floor.

When the man went upstairs to get a glass of water, Moro’s fellow Latin King member, 20-year-old Sergio Rodriguez, began to ask him about his haircut and said the cut was a Two Six style, Assistant State’s Attorney Angel Eggleston said.
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On July 3, police arrested Moro after CPD surveillance cameras recorded him firing a handgun outside John Spry Elementary School in Little Village, according to court records. In his arrest report, cops called Moro “a highly active Latin King gang member.”

Judge David Navarro ordered Moro held in lieu of $100,000 the next day, but Judge LeRoy Martin Jr cut that in half a few days later, and Moro went home by posting a $5,000 deposit bond, records show.
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Moro went to prison for a year following a nearly identical incident in October 2017. In that case, police surveillance cameras recorded footage of Moro firing a gun at a passing car just a block away from Spry Elementary, according to CPD records. Police allegedly recovered a gun from Moro’s bedroom after that incident and he admitted to “testing the gun.”

On Monday, Moro found himself in front of Judge Navarro again on the new murder charges. Navarro ordered him held without bail for Castillo’s slaying and held without bail for violating terms of bail in his pending reckless discharge case.

Rodriguez, who received an 18-month prison sentence for reckless discharge of a firearm in 2019, was also ordered held without bail.

#8: “Highly active” gang member charged with killing rival over haircut — while on affordable bail | CWB Chicago

Chicago has Wild West levels of homicide.

(Worse, in fact; the criminality and violence of the ungoverned West has been greatly exaggerated, and some of those old cow towns had lower per capita crime rates back when they had no formal government than they do today.)

Do you know what kind of crime illegal possession of a firearm is in the state of Illinois?

It is a misdemeanor.

A 2014 study conducted by the Chicago Sun-Times found that in most cases, Cook County judges handed down the minimum sentence for gun possession, and in most cases, the criminals ended up serving far less than that, doing only a few months.

Those charged with simple possession had an average of four prior arrests; those charged with the more serious crime of being a felon in possession of a firearm had an average of ten previous arrests.


Ten arrests, and the eleventh is for a gun-related crime.

One wonders how many undetected crimes are covered by such criminal careers.

Many in Illinois have argued that, given the state of crime there, stiffer sentences are warranted.

A bill was introduced to that end, and it was opposed by Democrats who argued that stiffer sentences for those actually committing crimes with guns would “unfairly target African-Americans,” as the Sun-Times put it.

The NRA, to its discredit, opposed that bill, too, arguing that the penalties for simple possession in absence of other criminal activity were too stiff.

But that’s an argument for liberalizing Illinois gun laws, not for forgoing the punishment of criminals.

The NRA did support harsher punishment for felons in possession of firearms, and for the use of firearms in crimes. Democrats have generally opposed them.




Chicago....

Felon charged with shooting Chicago police officers has decade-long history of drug and gun crimes

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Lovelle Jordan was on parole when Chicago police took him into custody. Before Thursday's gunfight with officers, the 25-year-old had spent about a third of his life in the criminal justice system, much of that time behind bars.



It was just April 10 of this year at the Pinckneyville state prison in Southern Illinois that Lovelle Jordan was freed on parole after serving the required 50-percent of a five year sentence for gun possession by a felon.


"I think we need to do a better job of holding gun offenders accountable," Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Brendan Deenihan said at a press conference Friday morning.



-2012: heroin and cocaine possession

--2015: drug possession

--2016: drug possession, aggravated assault and fleeing police

--2017: caught with a gun and convicted as an "armed habitual criminal"



"He was on electronic monitoring until June and then that was removed and now a month later he's armed with a gun going into a stolen car with officers 5 feet away from him which leads to him shooting officers," said Chief Deenihan. "They don't want these offenders released back into their neighborhoods with guns. This is a convicted felon on parole, just gets off EM and he's got a gun on him. Not only does he have a gun on him, he walks right in front of officers to get in a stolen vehicle because he thinks he's going to be able to be that quick to get away.

 
The democrat party and left wing associate groups are responsible for the gun violence in our major cities.....their policies and actions allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again...

For example....the 21 year old gang member who gave a gun to 13 year old Adam Toledo was bailed out by one of these groups....this gang member, wanted on a previous felony gun charge, gave the 13 year old a gun.......and having that gun led to the death of that 13 year old...

What led to the death of that 13 year old was a cop engaging in an unnecessary foot chase and shooting him after he complied and put his hands up.

During a court hearing Monday for Ruben Roman, the man who’s accused of firing a gun and then giving it to 13-year-old Adam Toledo moments before police fatally shot the boy, a Cook County judge revealed that the 21-year-old managed to get out of jail because a community bond fund paid his bail.

The Chicago Community Bond Fund (CCBF) paid a $40,000 deposit to get Roman out of jail after he was ordered held on $150,000 bail for charges related to the Toledo incident and $250,000 bail for violating the terms of probation in an earlier gun case. Both bail orders required 10% deposits.

Not seeing a problem here. If they thought his crime was that serious, they should have demanded he be held without bond. "Just having a gun while not being a white person" isn't a good enough reason to keep someone in jail when the jails are already overcrowded.

So here's a crazy idea. Let's get rid of bail altogether. Instead of locking up non-violent felons who can't make bail, let's just lock up the dangerous people. Then you can make the case that this guy really wasn't part of a well-regulated militia.

Do street gangs counts as a well-regulated militia?
You stupid racist ignorant fuck. Unnecessary chase? The young punk was out at 2:30 AM shooting a gun at passing cars you idiot. That is fairly serious. He ditched the gun so then cop wouldn’t see it and immediately wheeled around on the cop. Then he got his Darwin Award. Your blatant stupidity is appalling. Assholes like you need to FOAD. YOU and people like you are the problem.
Drop the gun.... let me see your hands


BANG
Nice lie LUSH. Kind of like your bullshit on Sicknick. Every one of you leftist tards would have done the same thing. Run from the cop, who knows you have a gun, then wheel on the cop suddenly with zero warning. Here's your Darwin. Funny how no lefty here ever asks what the hell the parents of this criminal were doing letting him run the streets at 2am on a school night.
They don't care, his parents vote Democrat.
 
You dumbfuck. He spun around quickly. That is a threat in that situation. As educated people know. You need to STFU because you make yourself look dumber and dumber by the day. Why was a 13 year old running the streets at that hour with a gun idiot? He was also firing at passing cars. He got stupid, he got his Darwin.

Awesome. The cop will lose his job and may even go to jail, but he got to shoot a kid over a petty crime that would have gotten him a fine. Good work, everyone.
You're an idiot, he was shooting at cars passing by. He could've hit an innocent victim walking down the street. He got what he deserved, another person we won't have to support in jail off and on his entire life.
 
And that post?

:lame2:

A gang member gives 13 year old and illegal gun...and your post reflects that how?
98% of the time these Leftist lack the IQ to post an intelligent response.

They are incapable of forming an original thought.

They can only parrot what the Fake News MSM tells them.

So sometimes it comes across a little silly.
 
Why wouldn't they qualify under your link? Which ones Koch organizations in particular are you talking about?

and why did the IRS admit they were wrong...if you claim they were right?

Because they are basically sissies, and Obama was conflict adverse.

I gave you exactly the cite of what qualified and the Koch Brother groups don't.

You're an idiot, he was shooting at cars passing by. He could've hit an innocent victim walking down the street. He got what he deserved, another person we won't have to support in jail off and on his entire life.

You know what we can't afford, the $20 Million dollar settlement his family is going to get. The price of thug cops went up after Geo. Floyd. Used to be you could pay off a family for seven figures, now it's gone up to 8.
 
Moron....the democrats have controlled Chicago since 1931, and lightfoot is no different from the rest....and she has openly mocked the police ....

Okay, but you tried to blame this all on Lightfoot, who is only in there because Rahm covered up for Jason van Dyke.

Otherwise, Rahm would be in his third term right now.

Moron.......the reason gun crime is a problem in Chicago is the democrat party judges, and prosecutors keep releasing the gang members doing all of the shooting.......the gangs also are working with the local aldermen......so attacking the police, ties to gangs by the politicians, and releasing the gang shooters over and over again causes gun crime...

Nope, they've been letting people out on bail since the 1980's, because Cook County Jail can only hold 5000 people.

But there was a spike in murder right after you nuts got the gun laws overturned and everyone was packing.

By the SHIT you spew on here, every day, murder rates should have gone DOWN in Chicago after more people started packing, not up.
 

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