Leader Of Democrats Caught Lying.

First, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a leader in the Democratic Party no matter how much Republicans try to brand her as one. AOC holds no significant leadership positions in the Democratic Party.
Second, Republicans have no credibility to criticize anyone of lying as long as Trump is their leader. He alone is the record-holding Liar in Chief and is comparable as a compulsive serial liar to no other .


"Second, Republicans have no credibility to criticize anyone of lying as long as Trump is their leader. "


No one can be branded a liar after the bravura performance by the most prodigious liar ever to infest the White House.....Hussein Obama.


Bet you can't find a record like this from anyone else:



1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

“Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices - American Energy Alliance



Could his lies about drilling have anything to do with this???

“Obama's OMB ignores document subpoena; Upton/Stearns House panel says Monday morning or else…The subpoena is for thousands of documents requested months ago by the committee's Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations concerning OMB's evaluation of a Department of Energy economic stimulus program loan guarantee worth $535 million for Solyndra, Inc.,…” http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/bel...ocument-subpoena-uptonstearns-house-panel-say






2. Obama…a supporter of infanticide…which is why he lies to support Planned Parenthood.

“....on abortion, Obama is an extremist. He has opposed the Supreme Court decision that finally upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act against that form of infanticide. Most startlingly, for a professed humanist, Obama – in the Illinois Senate – also voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

I have reported on several of those cases when, before the abortion was completed, an alive infant was suddenly in the room. It was disposed of as a horrified nurse who was not necessarily pro-life followed the doctors’ orders to put the baby in a pail or otherwise get rid of the child.” Infanticide candidate for president




…who has stated that he didn’t want his daughters ‘punished’ with a baby…..told this lie:


You’ve got issues like Planned Parenthood, where that organization provides millions of women cervical-cancer screenings, mammograms, all kinds of basic health care.”— President Obama during an interview on “The Tonight Show,” Oct. 24, 2012

The president has suggested time and again that Planned Parenthood directly provides mammograms, but the organization only offers referrals and helps women find financial resources for the exams. This suggests an intentional attempt to mislead voters…
Obama’s ‘Tonight Show’ remark: Planned Parenthood provides mammograms


3. Get this lie:
“’more black men languish in prison in America than attend college.” Obama

"the most frequently quoted statistic about black men in the United States."


4. Lies, damn lies….and Obama lies:

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians




….and….

5. Obama’s claim that Keystone XL oil ‘bypasses the U.S.’ earns Four Pinocchioshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/02/obamas-claim-that-keystone-xl-oil-bypasses-the-u-s-earns-four-pinocchios/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8c2ed3f65ed8




….and….

6. After accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama bombed more countries than any President since WWII

“U.S. Bombed Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia in 2016” The U.S. dropped an average of 3 bombs per hour last year



His whole presidency was a lie by the Left.....and suckers bought it like it was on sale.




7. Is this a lie, of just the sort of thing Liberals do?

The Peace Prize for a man who had a kill list in the Oval Office:

“The Disposition Matrix, informally known as a kill list, is a database of information for tracking, capturing,
rendering, or killing suspected enemies of the United States.[1] Developed by the Obama administration beginning in 2010, the "Disposition Matrix" goes beyond existing kill lists and is intended to become a permanent fixture of U.S. policy.[1] The process determining criteria for killing is not public and was heavily shaped by National Counterterrorism Director and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director John O. Brennan.[2]


8. “Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay

The good times may be over for good. In a speech to the Economic Club of New York yesterday, US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the US GDP growth rate, adjusted for inflation, is now projected to run a little above 2% a year.”

Team Obama: Sorry, America, the 'new normal' may be here to stay - AEI


Then, along came Trump….

“U.S. households are back to their free spending ways, with the strength of May’s retail sales figures implying that second-quarter real consumption growth (and GDP growth for that matter) will now be more than 4% annualized.



9. “Obama’s whopper of a claim on tax cuts

“We said working folks deserved a break, so within one month of me taking office, we signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history, putting more money into your pockets.”
— President Obama, Sept. 5, 2011


10. 10. “Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies

…he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.

It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”

Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies



"It is astonishing to see the[Democrat Obama] repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”
And they're still lying!!!




11. Obama called ISIS the JV and then said he didn’t call them the JV…

“Obama said he “wasn’t specifically referring” to ISIS when he made the junior varsity reference during an interview with The New Yorker in January. But the magazine article and a transcript of the interview — which Washington Post Fact Checker
Glenn Kessler obtained and wrote about earlier this month — shows that Obama was referring to ISIS when he said “if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.”
Obama Fumbles 'JV Team' Question - FactCheck.org

WaPo calls him a liar……again.





12. Here he goes again:
“Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’”

Really???

Then explain this:

“The April 4 attack in Khan Sheikhun, which cost the lives of more than 80 people ….

Defense Secretary James Mattis said Monday the firing of 59 cruise missiles from two U.S. Navy destroyers in the Mediterranean was intended to “show the United States will not passively stand by while [President Bashar] Assad murders innocent people with chemical weapons, which are prohibited by international law and which were declared destroyed.”
Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’

13. President Obama: “So let’s start with this fact: For more than a thousand years, people have been drawn to Islam’s message of peace. And the very word itself, ‘Islam,’ comes from ‘salam’ — peace.”

Why did Obama say this? Even Muslim websites acknowledge that “Islam” means “submission” [to Allah], that it comes from the Arabic root “aslama” meaning submission, and that “Islam” is in the command form of that verb.


14. Obama Saying 'Islam has been Woven into the Fabric of our Country Since its Founding'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZIXlIU9vEQ

15. The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression." http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/08/usa-politics-debate-economy-idUSN0749084220081008





16. The Kick-Back to Donors Plan….I mean the Stimulus…

In Barack Obama’s speech to the joint session of Congress, the President emphasized that his new jobs plan had four specific qualities that made it easy to pass this bill immediately, as Obama chanted repeatedly during his speech. His plan would be fully funded, it would not add to the deficit, it would create jobs immediately, and it was chock-full of bipartisan ideas. The Associated Press fact-checked these claims, and found them all false.

17. Obama lied and misled the American people in his description of his relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers as casual and arm's-length:” just a guy in my neighborhood.” His spokesman even claimed he ony knew him because his kids went to school with Ayers’ kids. Now it is clear that the relationship was close, and the evidence is that Ayers actually wrote Obama’s ‘autobiography.’



18. Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress
Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress | Breitbart



19. Do you recall this Obama response at one of the debates: “I think America's greatest moral failure in my lifetime has been that we still don't abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”



Perhaps this is the biggest hypocrisy and the greatest look into his character: “The average American household gives about two percent of adjusted gross income,” …Obama…less than 1%









And he wouldn’t help the ‘least of his own brothers’ out of poverty:

"Barack Obama's half brother, George Onyango Obama, was found living in a 6 by 10 foot slum hut in Huruma estate just outside of Nairobi. According to reports George Obama survives on $12 a year in the slums of Kenya."

Barack's Half Brother: George Obama's Hut Is In The Slums Of Kenya







20. “Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These?
Former president Barack Obama might not have experienced the fallout from a scandal, but that's very different from never having been involved in one.” Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These? | RealClearPolitics

21. Not only do the Leftists like Obama lie to their base with no compunctions….but they laugh at how gullible their voters are:

Charlie Rose and President’s Speechwriters Laugh About ObamaCare Lie ‘If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.’



22. The lies often serve the purpose of appealing to particular constituencies…..here, to Jewish voters:

"The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate
MAY 27, 2008 | 4:21 PM

Barack Obama, at a Memorial Day event in Las Cruces, N.M., credited his great-uncle, Charlie Payne, as being among the U.S. troops who liberated the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz.



The trouble with that bit of history -- as the Republican National Committee pointed out today -- is that the Soviet Red Army was the military force that liberated the World War II death camp."

The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate



23. The lies are often revealed in the actions of the Democrats. While thumping their collective chests about how they feel for black Americans….their actions reveal something altogether different:

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

24. Here is Democrat apparatchik George Stephanopoulos ‘correcting’ Obama’s mention of his Muslim faith…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

His actions throughout his presidency make this an admission more than a gaffe.

The big question about Hussein Obama was always was he Sunni or Shia…and with the Iran deal, we got answer.



25. "My expectation is that if you want to be president, you have to work for everyone, not just for some," Obama said in a taping of the "Late Show" with David Letterman... …the job of the President is to “represent all people.” “If you want to be President, You have to work for everybody, not just for some." https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/09/obama-as-president-you-represent-everyone-most-people-dont-think-theyre-victims-135939



“According to the experts who contributed to the Brookings Institution report, Barack Obama numbers among the most polarizing presidents in American history.” https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/most-polarizing-presidents-including-donald-trump.html/?a=viewall





“A Gallup poll released Wednesday shows that former President Obama's approval ratings are easily the most polarized in modern American history, with Democrats rating him highly and Republicans rating him poorly.

"Throughout his presidency,
Barack Obama averaged 83% job approval among Democrats and 13% among Republicans," reports Gallup. "That 70-percentage-point party gap in job approval ratings easily eclipses the prior high — 61 points for George W. Bush.

"All other presidents had party gaps of 55 points or less."
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316024-gallup-obama-approval-ratings-most-polarized-in-us-history



The Democrats wanted to put Hussein Obama on Mt. Rushmore....but they don't have enough room for two more faces.

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26. Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s
vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming: “There is no spying on Americans.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds

27. “OBAMA SAYS MANUFACTURING JOBS AREN’T COMING BACK – THEN TRUMP SETS RECORD OF JOBS IN ONE MONTH”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EWG6gYlhQ

28. “Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries…. The only problem with his answer was that he was standing in Paris, where a mass shooting conducted by Islamic State terrorists had just taken place, killing over 100 people.”

Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries | Breitbart

“'Children's bodies are everywhere': NINETEEN people are killed in Crimean school massacre after student walks into canteen and opens fire –“ Crimea shooting: NINETEEN people are killed in school massacre | Daily Mail Online



29. “22 Times President Obama Said He Couldn’t Ignore or Create His Own Immigration Law” https://www.speaker.gov/general/22-...dn-t-ignore-or-create-his-own-immigration-law
“How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegal Aliens” How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegals



30. “OBAMA APPEARS WITH, ENDORSES NEVADA CANDIDATE JUST DAYS AFTER EX-WIFE LEVELS ABUSE ALLEGATIONS
· Former President Barack Obama and Nevada Democratic senatorial candidate Jacky Rosen — who tweeted “Believe women” in September — and other Nevada Democrats did not respond when asked to comment on the allegations after they endorsed Sisolak.”

Obama Appears With, Endorses Nevada Candidate Just Days After Ex-Wife Levels Abuse Allegations

31. “Obama, who campaigned on a promise to protect government whistle-blowers, made greater use of the Espionage Act to prosecute leakers and menace journalists than all other presidents combined.

Obama’s Justice Department accessed the personal email of a Fox News reporter and surveilled the reporter’s parents and colleagues. They seized the home, work and mobile phone records of journalists at the Associated Press.

White House officials subverted the press in a number of ways while touting themselves as the most transparent in history.” Trump Wages War on the Press, but Was Obama Much Better to Reporters? (Guest Column)



32. “In 2017, in Obama’s last days, The San Diego Union-Tribune Editorial Board echoed the criticism from Downie and Risen and called Obama’s administration “the least transparent and the most antagonistic toward the media since the Nixon administration.” In a nuanced analysis of his eight years, we wrote, “So much for Obama’s promise to lead ‘the most transparent administration in history.’” Editorial: Before Trump, Obama was an 'enemy of press freedom'


33."Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/uh-oh-new-texts-suggest-obama-wh-cia-fbi-and-harry-reid-colluded-at-outset-of-n2465737

"Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/24/clapper_obama_ordered_the_intelligence_assessment_that_resulted_in_mueller_investigation.html





34. Posted on 3/27/2008, 1:36:25 PM

A year ago, Barack Obama addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him--Barack Obama, Child of Destiny. The only problem is he was born in 1961.

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched." http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php

Obama credits Selma march for his existence

Except that Hussein was born in 1961.



35.

1. Referring to illegal aliens, she begins :"I call them citizens because they contribute to the country."

Of course, that is not what makes one a citizen...is it.
2. The young lady continues as if with the voice of the illegal...'If I vote, will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family..."

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'

Do you deny anything above?

Are claiming that 'immigration' would 'come for ' legal citizens who voted???
3. Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'

4.He goes on to make this bald faced lie: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"



36. The most prodigious liar ever to infest the Oval Office, Hussein Obama, repeatedly cited “the Stat That 1 In 5 College Women Are Sexually Assaulted. False, of course. The Stat That 1 In 5 College Women Are Sexually Assaulted Doesn't Mean What You Think It Means




Henceforth, the terms 'lie' and 'liar' must be permanently reserved for, and applied to, Hussein Obama.







How ya' like me now, booooyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeee????????
 
First, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a leader in the Democratic Party no matter how much Republicans try to brand her as one. AOC holds no significant leadership positions in the Democratic Party.
Second, Republicans have no credibility to criticize anyone of lying as long as Trump is their leader. He alone is the record-holding Liar in Chief and is comparable as a compulsive serial liar to no other .

"First, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a leader in the Democratic Party no matter how much Republicans try to brand her as one."



Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?





”Fifteen House Democrats”

Out of hundreds.

LOLOL

PoliticalHack once again makes a complete and utter fool of herself. :mm:
 
Libtards lie, it's what they do.

Democrats have a winning platform, raising taxes, keeping the borders open, destroying the military, brain washing our children, getting us in wars

Always remember, when you look into the eyes of a socialist liberal you're looking into the eyes of an unreasoning fanatic, totally dedicated to the destruction of America and all it stands for.
 
Not the first time, and certainly won't be the last time.....a Democrat leader lies to smear the other side.
It is their modus operandi.


1. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

“On the events on September 11, 2001, thousands of Americans died in the largest terror attack on US soil,” Ocasio-Cortez told host Chris Hayes.

“Our national response was war in one then eventually two countries: 3,000 Americans died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria. Where is our response?”
https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/ocasio-cortez-compares-impact-of-climate-change-to-9-11/


2.(CNN) — Puerto Rico’s true death toll from Hurricane Maria remains elusive as the storm’s one-year anniversary approaches.
The island government raised the official death toll to 2,975 on Tuesday after maintaining for months that 64 people had died as a result of the storm.
But the higher figure, based on the findings of researchers from George Washington University in a study commissioned by the US commonwealth’s government, is only an approximation, not a concrete list of names, according to Gov. Ricardo Rossello.

“This number can change,” Rossello said. “It could be less, it could be more, as time passes.” How Puerto Rico’s death toll climbed from 64 to 2,975 in Hurricane Maria


3. "...Puerto Rico’s government—led by a governor with the island’s pro-statehood party who is also a Democrat…”
Trump Denies Heavy Death Toll in Puerto Rico From Hurricane Maria


4. “….only an approximation, not a concrete list of names,…”…..no list of the names of any beyond about 64…..



If you asked for the names of those who died at Pearl Harbor….you could get it.

Or at the Twin Towers, in NYC…..no prob.


But….then, the Left didn’t have to blame those on Trump.





Did I mention Rule #1: Every argument by the Left is a fabrication, misrepresentation, or bald-faced lie.


The only way you get to that 3,000 number.....
…..any deaths, months after, for whatever reason, is attributed to the hurricane, and used against Trump’s correct statement about a far, far smaller number.

Is that how we enumerate the deaths caused by events?


Or, only when a Republican is President?


If we use the same methodology, Pearl Harbor deaths was not the 2,400 so described…..but rather the 70-80 million attributed to WWII





5. Lies are their way of life.

It is essential to recognize that the word has 'lie' has two different meaning to the Left and to the Right.
When applied to the Right, it is taken as an insult, to be responded to, to be proven incorrect.
To the Left it is to be shrugged at, an acceptable mode of debate.
They don't care if they are known to be liars. You'll see that time and again in their posts.






Oh....BTW.....in case you missed it, Mueller: no collusion with Russia by Trump.


are you serious?


lying to smear the other side?

something TRUMP DOES EVERY DAY?!?!?!?

ha ha ha

something YOU do regularly (if one considers misinformation and partial truths coupled with purposely omitting facts as LYING)




BTW, mud.....are you still supporting this?

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…


You are???


You must be quite the low-life, huh?
 
So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?





 
So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:
 
Sounds a lot like my Rule #1, Petey...
Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.


I thought it was their own rule...

They don't usually follow anyone else's.

I just consider it a fact of life. You can't convince most people to give up everything they earn to support a collectivist agenda. It's done either through fraud or force.


.
 
So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:

most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.
 
First, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a leader in the Democratic Party no matter how much Republicans try to brand her as one. AOC holds no significant leadership positions in the Democratic Party.
Second, Republicans have no credibility to criticize anyone of lying as long as Trump is their leader. He alone is the record-holding Liar in Chief and is comparable as a compulsive serial liar to no other .
She is the leader, just ask her
 
she owes an apology for comparing a natural disaster to a target assault on 3000 american citizens and their families, our core infrastructure. The left has no moral value or are worth any further discussion.
 
So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:

most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.

I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.
 
Not the first time, and certainly won't be the last time.....a Democrat leader lies to smear the other side.
It is their modus operandi.


1. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

“On the events on September 11, 2001, thousands of Americans died in the largest terror attack on US soil,” Ocasio-Cortez told host Chris Hayes.

“Our national response was war in one then eventually two countries: 3,000 Americans died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria. Where is our response?”
https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/ocasio-cortez-compares-impact-of-climate-change-to-9-11/


2.(CNN) — Puerto Rico’s true death toll from Hurricane Maria remains elusive as the storm’s one-year anniversary approaches.
The island government raised the official death toll to 2,975 on Tuesday after maintaining for months that 64 people had died as a result of the storm.
But the higher figure, based on the findings of researchers from George Washington University in a study commissioned by the US commonwealth’s government, is only an approximation, not a concrete list of names, according to Gov. Ricardo Rossello.

“This number can change,” Rossello said. “It could be less, it could be more, as time passes.” How Puerto Rico’s death toll climbed from 64 to 2,975 in Hurricane Maria


3. "...Puerto Rico’s government—led by a governor with the island’s pro-statehood party who is also a Democrat…”
Trump Denies Heavy Death Toll in Puerto Rico From Hurricane Maria


4. “….only an approximation, not a concrete list of names,…”…..no list of the names of any beyond about 64…..



If you asked for the names of those who died at Pearl Harbor….you could get it.

Or at the Twin Towers, in NYC…..no prob.


But….then, the Left didn’t have to blame those on Trump.





Did I mention Rule #1: Every argument by the Left is a fabrication, misrepresentation, or bald-faced lie.


The only way you get to that 3,000 number.....
…..any deaths, months after, for whatever reason, is attributed to the hurricane, and used against Trump’s correct statement about a far, far smaller number.

Is that how we enumerate the deaths caused by events?


Or, only when a Republican is President?


If we use the same methodology, Pearl Harbor deaths was not the 2,400 so described…..but rather the 70-80 million attributed to WWII





5. Lies are their way of life.

It is essential to recognize that the word has 'lie' has two different meaning to the Left and to the Right.
When applied to the Right, it is taken as an insult, to be responded to, to be proven incorrect.
To the Left it is to be shrugged at, an acceptable mode of debate.
They don't care if they are known to be liars. You'll see that time and again in their posts.






Oh....BTW.....in case you missed it, Mueller: no collusion with Russia by Trump.
AOC is one Representative, a Freshman one at that, and all the CRCs, trumpanzees, and INCELS are in a tizzy.
 
Not the first time, and certainly won't be the last time.....a Democrat leader lies to smear the other side.
It is their modus operandi.


1. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

“On the events on September 11, 2001, thousands of Americans died in the largest terror attack on US soil,” Ocasio-Cortez told host Chris Hayes.

“Our national response was war in one then eventually two countries: 3,000 Americans died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria. Where is our response?”
https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/ocasio-cortez-compares-impact-of-climate-change-to-9-11/


2.(CNN) — Puerto Rico’s true death toll from Hurricane Maria remains elusive as the storm’s one-year anniversary approaches.
The island government raised the official death toll to 2,975 on Tuesday after maintaining for months that 64 people had died as a result of the storm.
But the higher figure, based on the findings of researchers from George Washington University in a study commissioned by the US commonwealth’s government, is only an approximation, not a concrete list of names, according to Gov. Ricardo Rossello.

“This number can change,” Rossello said. “It could be less, it could be more, as time passes.” How Puerto Rico’s death toll climbed from 64 to 2,975 in Hurricane Maria


3. "...Puerto Rico’s government—led by a governor with the island’s pro-statehood party who is also a Democrat…”
Trump Denies Heavy Death Toll in Puerto Rico From Hurricane Maria


4. “….only an approximation, not a concrete list of names,…”…..no list of the names of any beyond about 64…..



If you asked for the names of those who died at Pearl Harbor….you could get it.

Or at the Twin Towers, in NYC…..no prob.


But….then, the Left didn’t have to blame those on Trump.





Did I mention Rule #1: Every argument by the Left is a fabrication, misrepresentation, or bald-faced lie.


The only way you get to that 3,000 number.....
…..any deaths, months after, for whatever reason, is attributed to the hurricane, and used against Trump’s correct statement about a far, far smaller number.

Is that how we enumerate the deaths caused by events?


Or, only when a Republican is President?


If we use the same methodology, Pearl Harbor deaths was not the 2,400 so described…..but rather the 70-80 million attributed to WWII





5. Lies are their way of life.

It is essential to recognize that the word has 'lie' has two different meaning to the Left and to the Right.
When applied to the Right, it is taken as an insult, to be responded to, to be proven incorrect.
To the Left it is to be shrugged at, an acceptable mode of debate.
They don't care if they are known to be liars. You'll see that time and again in their posts.






Oh....BTW.....in case you missed it, Mueller: no collusion with Russia by Trump.
AOC is one Representative, a Freshman one at that, and all the CRCs, trumpanzees, and INCELS are in a tizzy.



A liar, a fool, and a leader of the Democrat Party......the party of liars and fools.


You can run, but you can't hide.
So saith the Brown Bomber

Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?
 
First, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a leader in the Democratic Party no matter how much Republicans try to brand her as one. AOC holds no significant leadership positions in the Democratic Party.
Second, Republicans have no credibility to criticize anyone of lying as long as Trump is their leader. He alone is the record-holding Liar in Chief and is comparable as a compulsive serial liar to no other .
Your lying liar is a bigger lying liar than my lying liar!

Fuck my life.

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So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:

most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.

I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.

great. but the official stance is not for or against.

What does Present mean when voting in the Senate

it could be considered a "soft no" but as far as i know "OFFICIALLY" its neither yes nor no.
 
So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?

:lol:

Come on....

Was it a lie when we had a lower count of deaths in Katrina to then have an increased amount of deaths when all was said and done?

Can you name those who died in Katrina, like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Is there a list where we know all of their names?



"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:

most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.

I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.

great. but the official stance is not for or against.

What does Present mean when voting in the Senate

it could be considered a "soft no" but as far as i know "OFFICIALLY" its neither yes nor no.

it's what a wimp representative gives when one is wiimpy. The party affiliation tells one their vote of present meant they agreed but didn't want anyone to know they did. But we already knew that.
 
"So you begin your thread WITH A LIE, that AOC is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, to call out what you perceive, but can not come close to proving, is a lie of AOC's?"


Don't you know by now that I am never....NEVER.....wrong?????



Let's prove it together.



Fifteen House Democrats have already signed onto the Green New Deal resolution"

Sign the petition: Stand up for a Green New Deal



"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leads push for Green New Deal as the way forward on climate change – Boston Herald



"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics



"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."

‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change


"There is little doubt that Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, representing parts of Queens and the Bronx, is being treated as a leader of a new Democratic swing to the left. Nor is there much doubt that the media-savvy upset winner in New York’s 14th congressional district combines personal charisma with a knack for policy packaging, as with her “Green New Deal.”
Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Really the Democratic Future?






”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:

most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.

I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.

great. but the official stance is not for or against.

What does Present mean when voting in the Senate

it could be considered a "soft no" but as far as i know "OFFICIALLY" its neither yes nor no.

it's what a wimp representative gives when one is wiimpy. The party affiliation tells one their vote of present meant they agreed but didn't want anyone to know they did. But we already knew that.

great. i don't disagree on what is going on "behind" the scenes. but a Present vote is not a YES or a NO.

all i'm saying.
 
”"Support for the Green New Deal is showing signs of becoming a liberal litmus test among Democrats who may run for president. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) recently endorsed it, joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)."
‘Green New Deal’ divides Democrats intent on addressing climate change”


... and when it came time to actually vote on it — they all voted against it.

Yet another thread where PoliticalHack works overtime to make a complete and utter fool of herself again. :mm:
most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.
I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.
great. but the official stance is not for or against.

What does Present mean when voting in the Senate

it could be considered a "soft no" but as far as i know "OFFICIALLY" its neither yes nor no.
it's what a wimp representative gives when one is wiimpy. The party affiliation tells one their vote of present meant they agreed but didn't want anyone to know they did. But we already knew that.
great. i don't disagree on what is going on "behind" the scenes. but a Present vote is not a YES or a NO.

all i'm saying.
yep. But people with a piece of brain, knew what it meant. Especially since the senators who already said they backed the plan, didn't vote yes either. so, I appreciate it when people don't insult my intelligence. And wasn't meant that you were. just them.
 
most voted present which is neither for nor against it.

and if you're going to get mad at trump for "lies" then how about the 70+ something times the media was wrong or lying about trump? i never see you call out the media for being wrong.
I disagree, a vote of present is a 'yes' vote. If they didn't care for it, no would have done the job.
great. but the official stance is not for or against.

What does Present mean when voting in the Senate

it could be considered a "soft no" but as far as i know "OFFICIALLY" its neither yes nor no.
it's what a wimp representative gives when one is wiimpy. The party affiliation tells one their vote of present meant they agreed but didn't want anyone to know they did. But we already knew that.
great. i don't disagree on what is going on "behind" the scenes. but a Present vote is not a YES or a NO.

all i'm saying.
yep. But people with a piece of brain, knew what it meant. Especially since the senators who already said they backed the plan, didn't vote yes either. so, I appreciate it when people don't insult my intelligence. And that wasn't meant that you were. just them.
all good. to me the vote was a "game" and they just didn't play. both sides are anxious to tear down the other anymore and i find that as a whole so very counterproductive to what we should be doing.
 

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