Lawmaker wants Ohio exempted from health plan

[Kevin_Kennedy]

A Republican legislator wants to exempt Ohio from any government health care plan that Congress may approve in the coming months.

State Sen. Timothy Grendell of Chesterland said Friday that he plans to introduce legislation next week that would go to voters in 2010 if approved by three-fifths of the House and Senate.

Lawmaker wants Ohio exempted from health plan - Canton, OH - CantonRep.com

 

[wvulax]

Is that even legal. If they did pass it, wouldn't the federal law over rule the state law?

 

[veritas]

His proposal would amend Ohio’s Constitution to prevent individuals, employers and health care providers from being required to participate in any government plan.

Grendell acknowledges that it’s unlikely the proposal would get through the Democratic-controlled House.

Another obstructionist time waster caught in the act.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Is that even legal. If they did pass it, wouldn't the federal law over rule the state law?

Federal law only overrules state laws if the federal government has the constitutional authority to enact said law. Since universal healthcare does not fall under the federal government's jurisdiction per the Constitution every state has the right to nullify the universal healthcare.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

His proposal would amend Ohio’s Constitution to prevent individuals, employers and health care providers from being required to participate in any government plan.

Grendell acknowledges that it’s unlikely the proposal would get through the Democratic-controlled House.

Another obstructionist time waster caught in the act.

However, the Ohio Senate is controlled by the Republicans, so it is likely to get through there. He's not obstructing, he's simply expressing Ohio's sovereignty over the issue of healthcare.

 

[veritas]

His proposal would amend Ohio’s Constitution to prevent individuals, employers and health care providers from being required to participate in any government plan.

Grendell acknowledges that it’s unlikely the proposal would get through the Democratic-controlled House.

Another obstructionist time waster caught in the act.

However, the Ohio Senate is controlled by the Republicans, so it is likely to get through there. He's not obstructing, he's simply expressing Ohio's sovereignty over the issue of healthcare.

 

[Polk]

Is that even legal. If they did pass it, wouldn't the federal law over rule the state law?

Yes.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

His proposal would amend Ohio’s Constitution to prevent individuals, employers and health care providers from being required to participate in any government plan.

Grendell acknowledges that it’s unlikely the proposal would get through the Democratic-controlled House.

Another obstructionist time waster caught in the act.

However, the Ohio Senate is controlled by the Republicans, so it is likely to get through there. He's not obstructing, he's simply expressing Ohio's sovereignty over the issue of healthcare.

Thats good for Ohio. I think any kind of govt backed healthcare should be on a state/local level and not a federal one. You have more of a chance to give feedback and interact with your state govt than you ever will with the senate or house.

 

[JakeStarkey]

KevinKennedy knows as much about the Constitution, its history, and American culture as much as he does about poppy growing in Afghanawildstan.

Yes, the Supremes would overturn any such state or congressional legislation, and have the bailiffs turn KK's butt out into the alley.

Let's move on.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

KevinKennedy knows as much about the Constitution, its history, and American culture as much as he does about poppy growing in Afghanawildstan.

Yes, the Supremes would overturn any such state or congressional legislation, and have the bailiffs turn KK's butt out into the alley.

Let's move on.

Wow for a liberal you sure are intolerant of a fairly reasonable view that differs from your own. When did the liberal democrats become the representatives of intolerance?

 

[Polk]

KevinKennedy knows as much about the Constitution, its history, and American culture as much as he does about poppy growing in Afghanawildstan.

Yes, the Supremes would overturn any such state or congressional legislation, and have the bailiffs turn KK's butt out into the alley.

Let's move on.

Wow for a liberal you sure are intolerant of a fairly reasonable view that differs from your own. When did the liberal democrats become the representatives of intolerance?

Personally, I've always been intolerant of ignorance.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

KevinKennedy knows as much about the Constitution, its history, and American culture as much as he does about poppy growing in Afghanawildstan.

Yes, the Supremes would overturn any such state or congressional legislation, and have the bailiffs turn KK's butt out into the alley.

Let's move on.

Wow for a liberal you sure are intolerant of a fairly reasonable view that differs from your own. When did the liberal democrats become the representatives of intolerance?

Personally, I've always been intolerant of ignorance.

Hence my question.

 

[Polk]

Wow for a liberal you sure are intolerant of a fairly reasonable view that differs from your own. When did the liberal democrats become the representatives of intolerance?

Personally, I've always been intolerant of ignorance.

Hence my question.

It's a dumb one. Being tolerant doesn't mean believing that every crazy comment is valid.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Personally, I've always been intolerant of ignorance.

Hence my question.

It's a dumb one. Being tolerant doesn't mean believing that every crazy comment is valid.

hence my question about the intolerance towards the OP's perfectly reasonable news article he posted.

It was just an article and the liberals attack the man for posting the story. Just because the conservative states right's value is displayed in the articl the liberal shows their ignorance and intolerance of a constitutional belief they dont' share.

 

[Polk]

It's not really a reasonable article. The state legislator making the argument will get laughed out of court.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

It's not really a reasonable article. The state legislator making the argument will get laughed out of court.

read the federalist papers if you want to understand where that legislator got his idea from.

Try not to be ethnocentric...i know the conservative culture is very different from the liberal one you live by and understand, but that doesn't mean their culture and opinions aren't valid.

Practice the tolerance that the mantra of the liberal democrats, don't be a hypocrite like those republicans who cheat on their wives

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

It's not really a reasonable article. The state legislator making the argument will get laughed out of court.

Actually he makes a great constitutional case.

 

[Polk]

It's not really a reasonable article. The state legislator making the argument will get laughed out of court.

read the federalist papers if you want to understand where that legislator got his idea from.

Try not to be ethnocentric...i know the conservative culture is very different from the liberal one you live by and understand, but that doesn't mean their culture and opinions aren't valid.

Practice the tolerance that the mantra of the liberal democrats, don't be a hypocrite like those republicans who cheat on their wives

Nullification wasn't in the Federalist Papers.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Another obstructionist time waster caught in the act.

However, the Ohio Senate is controlled by the Republicans, so it is likely to get through there. He's not obstructing, he's simply expressing Ohio's sovereignty over the issue of healthcare.

Thats good for Ohio. I think any kind of govt backed healthcare should be on a state/local level and not a federal one. You have more of a chance to give feedback and interact with your state govt than you ever will with the senate or house.

If we started 50 different plans in January, 5 to 8 years from now we could see what works and what don't.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

However, the Ohio Senate is controlled by the Republicans, so it is likely to get through there. He's not obstructing, he's simply expressing Ohio's sovereignty over the issue of healthcare.

Thats good for Ohio. I think any kind of govt backed healthcare should be on a state/local level and not a federal one. You have more of a chance to give feedback and interact with your state govt than you ever will with the senate or house.

If we started 50 different plans in January, 5 to 8 years from now we could see what works and what don't.

There likely wouldn't be 50 different plans as some states would come to the conclusion that government run healthcare will be inefficient and a waste of money regardless of whether it's federal or state run.