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Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.Some recent incidents prove you wrong. No one knows which law abiding citizen will be the next to flip.Until they shoot someone in anger or fear.As research shows, law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits are more law abiding than sworn police officers.
Yeah….you have no clue. Considering the actual research, that isn't happening. Law abiding people do not go out and start raping, murdering and robbing people just because they bought a gun. Almost all of the killers have long histories of violence and crime. Normal people do not commit crime with guns….and since there are over 320 million guns in private hands and only 8,454 gun murders in 2013…..that pretty much proves the point. Most of those gun murders….by career criminals in democrat controlled inner cities in very small, multi block areas. And the shooters…about 90% of them have at least one previous criminal conviction…again, not law abiding people….
No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.Some recent incidents prove you wrong. No one knows which law abiding citizen will be the next to flip.Until they shoot someone in anger or fear.
Yeah….you have no clue. Considering the actual research, that isn't happening. Law abiding people do not go out and start raping, murdering and robbing people just because they bought a gun. Almost all of the killers have long histories of violence and crime. Normal people do not commit crime with guns….and since there are over 320 million guns in private hands and only 8,454 gun murders in 2013…..that pretty much proves the point. Most of those gun murders….by career criminals in democrat controlled inner cities in very small, multi block areas. And the shooters…about 90% of them have at least one previous criminal conviction…again, not law abiding people….
No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.Some recent incidents prove you wrong. No one knows which law abiding citizen will be the next to flip.Yeah….you have no clue. Considering the actual research, that isn't happening. Law abiding people do not go out and start raping, murdering and robbing people just because they bought a gun. Almost all of the killers have long histories of violence and crime. Normal people do not commit crime with guns….and since there are over 320 million guns in private hands and only 8,454 gun murders in 2013…..that pretty much proves the point. Most of those gun murders….by career criminals in democrat controlled inner cities in very small, multi block areas. And the shooters…about 90% of them have at least one previous criminal conviction…again, not law abiding people….
No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
You did not understand what I was talking about either. Or you were frustrated because I was right, just as he was when he changed the subject.
If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.Some recent incidents prove you wrong. No one knows which law abiding citizen will be the next to flip.Yeah….you have no clue. Considering the actual research, that isn't happening. Law abiding people do not go out and start raping, murdering and robbing people just because they bought a gun. Almost all of the killers have long histories of violence and crime. Normal people do not commit crime with guns….and since there are over 320 million guns in private hands and only 8,454 gun murders in 2013…..that pretty much proves the point. Most of those gun murders….by career criminals in democrat controlled inner cities in very small, multi block areas. And the shooters…about 90% of them have at least one previous criminal conviction…again, not law abiding people….
No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.Some recent incidents prove you wrong. No one knows which law abiding citizen will be the next to flip.
No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.No…you can pretty much tell….they will come from single parent teenage mothers, engage in anti social/criminal activity and drug use as a tee and have a criminal record that is quite extensive…...
Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Like the old ex cop in the move theater in Florida, He checked all of those boxes. You are deviating away from the discussion out of desperation. Trying to make it a Black thing when that is not what is being discussed.
Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?Yes....and Irish criminal gangs also shoot each other ......
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
But it IS a minority thing. If you remove the violence caused by the black and Hispanic gang members then the remaining crime levels are the same as in pure white Caucasian Europe.
That's the point nimrod.
You wish to compare the US crime rate to Ireland but Ireland has no black or Hispanic gang members so your comparison is ridiculous on its face.
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.If you knew anything about Ireland, which you do not, you would know that the Black and Hispanic gang members are replaced by White gang members. You are getting pretty insulting lately. Losing your grip?
And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
So you have little respect for Han life too.505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
Oh please. In a country of 330 million it's nothing. Sheesh, more Irish drop dead from drinking in a year than that.
If you truly cared about saving life then work on fixing the 120,000! that doctors kill every year. Or the million plus babies that are aborted.
so long as you don't do anything to correct those numbers you have no leg to stand on.
That should be HUMAN life.505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
Oh please. In a country of 330 million it's nothing. Sheesh, more Irish drop dead from drinking in a year than that.
If you truly cared about saving life then work on fixing the 120,000! that doctors kill every year. Or the million plus babies that are aborted.
so long as you don't do anything to correct those numbers you have no leg to stand on.
505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
You were saying?
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
I love the envy going on in this thread.
505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.And gangs in Ireland also shoot people...
Gangs and guns on Dublin streets
“It’s just appalling that it has come to this; that human life is this cheap and professional killers roam the streets,” said Labour member of parliament, Pat Rabbitte, in whose constituency the murder of the Corbally brothers took place.
Just as in the Sopranos television series, in which rival New Jersey mafia members kill each other in territorial fights, the gun homicides in Ireland arise mainly from feuds between rival gangs, usually for control of illegal drug sales. Their members live in a disadvantaged society and operate by their own rules.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern admitted after the latest killings that the gardai, the Irish police, often do not get the cooperation of the associates of gangland figures gunned down on the streets. Rather they take revenge in what he called “tit-for-tat killings.”
The Corballys belonged to one of two criminal gangs based in Dublin’s Ballyfermot district and it wasn’t long before an associate of the rival gang met a similar fate. On July 9, a masked gunman walked into an animal feed warehouse in the west of the city and singled out 34-year-old Colm Owens. He coolly shot Owens several times in the head in front of horrified coworkers, ran out and was driven off at speed by an accomplice.
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Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
505 accidental gun deaths is a huge number if you respect human life, which you apparently put below your right to own a gun.Because guns are not necessary in a civilized society. Too much room for human error. I live here in Ireland where most of the police do not carry firearms. That is really impressive.They shoot each other.
Aaaaaand the same is true of the black and Hispanic gang members here as well. Yet, you assume that the crime rates here are nationwide. They're not. Less than one tenth of one percent of all gun owners commit a crime with a gun. Why do you insist on punishing the 99.99% when you admit the overwhelming majority of gun criminals are illegal gang members?
What do you mean too much room for human error....in a country with over 320 million guns in private hands, the number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was 505.....505....for the whole year. Our normal, average, armed citizen is incredibley responsible. We have over 12.8 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and again...505 accidental gun deaths....
You really don't understand crime or guns. If you are really from Ireland that would explain why you don't know what you are posting about.
And as far as civilized societies go....Germany was one of the most civilized societies in the modern age, and in 1939 they murdered 12 million innoncent....unarmed people.
So with that history, how on earth can you say that guns are not necessary for people? 12 million people murdered, and they weren't all Germans, the French, and other countries just handed over their Jewish people and other enemies of Germany, for murder......all "civilized" countries at the time.
So........we tried it your way in Europe....and the governments of Europe murdered 12 million people....soooo...this time we will trust ourselves.......and try to avoid your mistakes.....
2000 deaths attributed to automobile CAFE standards, authored by you Leftwats, is a huge number if you respect human life.
How about we deal with the larger number of deaths caused by Leftists before we get to the 500 caused by gun accidents, shall we?
