Las Vegas: The Mystery Deepens...

[Dschrute3]

The usual disclaimer applies: No, i don't hate America. No, i'm not wearing a 'Tinfoil Hat.' And yes, i care about the victims. Now that's out of the way, let's have a civil logical discussion.


Interesting article by Paul Craig Roberts.

Forensic Acoustic Analysis Points to Existence of a Second Shooter.

This analysis seems to make sense. If it has been done correctly, it is evidence of a second Las Vegas shooter. It is evidence not only of two sets of gunshots but of bullets hitting the ground from two different distances. So unless the bullets were being fired into the ground only, it seems people will have been hit.

On the other hand, we have what seem to be videos of crisis actors carrying pretend wounded people into a hospital, and we have videos of hospital visits with alleged seriously wounded people who have had an almost instantaneous recovery. As the letter from the purported military surgeon pointed out, quick recoveries from gunshot trauma are not the norm. Remember also the Republican congressman, Steve Scalise, who was shot in the hip last June in D.C. He was in critical condition for some time and was in no condition to be giving interviews a couple of days later. Yet, here is a video of a young woman allegedly shot in the hip at the Las Vegas concert all rosy cheeked and chatting away a mere 3 days after being “nearly paralyzed” by her gunshot injury.

If there are dead and injured, what is the point of crisis actors and interviews with victims who show no sign of trauma?

If there is acoustic evidence of two shooters from two locations, why is the official story insistent on one shooter from one location?...

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[skye]

These reeks to high Heaven.

But slowly the truth is coming out.

 

[MarcATL]

These reeks to high Heaven.

But slowly the truth is coming out.

Who's lying to you....certainly not the police, right?

 

[skye]

These reeks to high Heaven.

But slowly the truth is coming out.

Who's lying to you....certainly not the police, right?

Who knows....but the good news is that like I said, the truth is definitely coming out....slowly, like pulling teeth, but coming out it is nevertheless.

 

[Fenton Lum]

These reeks to high Heaven.

But slowly the truth is coming out.

Who's lying to you....certainly not the police, right?

Who knows....but the good news is that like I said, the truth is definitely coming out....slowly, like pulling teeth, but coming out it is nevertheless.

Pffffffffffffffffffft, the police would have to be involved in the lie, whether you can bring yourself to say it or not.

 

[Chuz Life]

Here is my question.

Who benefits most from having any of the Vegas shooting considered as a conspiracy?

I don't have an answer for that.

Yet.

 

[RodISHI]

Not sure if this will help or hinder the thoughts on the matter...The police have several channels this is only one of them that was recorded.


Recording of one of the police dispatch chats on a scanner during Las Vegas shootings. A basic rundown of conversations of this channel during the shooting events of October 1:
00:56 – Shots coming from half way up
1:12 – Active shooter INSIDE the fairground
3:44 – Shots coming FROM Gate 7
5:38 – Shots from middle of casino, west tower, towards the center, middle floors
6:59 – flashing 1/3 of the way up
9:02 – about 15th floor
14:47 – Civilian witnesses saying possible 3 shooters
14:54 – Multiple witnesses saying multiple people shot or were shooting
16:26 – White car going the wrong way towards Mandalay Bay 17:39 – Security reports shots fired on floors 29 and 32
18:30 – Security guard shot on 32nd floor
18:51 – Blockade established on 32nd floor, will need the 29th floor, “CONFIRMED there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons”
19:20 – Get cameras (cctv?) to see the 29th and 32nd floor
20:10 - All units lock your vehicles. We have citizens trying to grab shotguns.
27:08 – On the 29th floor with a 4 man element
34:02-34:50 – Older white man with fatigues and a black bag went into motor home on Tropicana, witnesses say he came from shooting area
35:10-35:13 – "someone stole patrol car, need medical" at Giles
35:33 – One WMA (White Male Adult), Man in fatigues in white RV
36:17 – Giles and Alibaba, several, several casualties
37:03 – We believe it’s the northern most room on 32nd floor, unknown on the 29th
37:26 – Putting a shotgun on the suspect in the RV, by Motel 6 behind a Clark County Fire engine
38:30 – Confirmed Giles and Alibaba, several casualties, East of the Catholic Shrine (not in the line of fire from Mandalay)
40:35 – Set up North of the Motel 6, NW area
40:52 – We have several 419s on the main stage. ("about 20 419's in here")
41:04 – Need more units at Reno and Tropicana, we might have a possible
41:50 – Be advised, there is a subject on the heli-pad
43:10 – Just FYI, we are posted on Cobalt, just North of the target RV at Tropicana
43:49 – Moving in on a possible, right on the side of Motel 6, there’s 3 of us out here
45:05 – “CONFIRMING, the Mandalay Bay and Alibaba/Giles are the 2 shooting locations!” “Do we have a 3rd?”
48:30 Request for assistance. Three critical patients in officers vehicle
50:50- 51:00- 53:00 Five critical in vehicle- Trop and Boulevard casualty collection point- Medics requesting help to get to injured @ Four Seasons and Las Vegas Boulevard
55:00 Security and teams in Mandalay Bay on shooters floor
55:30 Possible suspect Industrial and Circus
57:00 UMC (hospital) at capacity, transfer there only if critical
57:33 – Report of possible shots fired inside NY NY
58:56 – Shooter at the front desk of NY NY, and everyone is in the kitchen
59:23 – Vehicle, black Audi, at the Luxor valet, possibly 445 (bomb), wires sticking out
59:50 – Witnesses saying there is someone at the NY NY
1:00:58 – They are advising the active shooter is coming down the escalator from NY NY to Excaliber
104 – Asking for confirmation “Do we have a 415a (assault with a gun) at NY NY?!”
114 – “It originally came in saying many subjects were down… there’s one that came in at 23:06 hours saying there’s a shooter at the front desk at NY NY… and there’s approximately 150 subjects sheltered in place inside the kitchen area there, and 2 shots were fired inside casino floor. And there is several subjects down at NY NY / Zumaniti.”
1:05:13 – “Send, if there’s not already 2 strike teams in route, send 2 strike teams in route, they need to advise their call signs, and we need an update as soon as they get there.”
1:06:24 – “Ok, whoever is responding to NY NY through control side, I need someone to get in and see if this is a diversion” 1:06:54 – “Ok, now I’m getting information about an active shooter at Tropicana”
1:07:12 – “Be advised there is an active shooter at the Tropicana”
1:07:19 – “Be advised, we are getting multiple calls of active shooters at multiple locations. May or may not be diversions” 1:09:23 – “at Tropicana, they are advising there is was a Hispanic male, dark skin with an afro, unknown clothing with a backpack, said he squatted in a driveway at Hooters and looks like a suspect.”
1:01:00 "advising active shooter is coming down new york new york escalator to excalibur"
147 – Explosive breach conversation before entering main suspects room
121 – “Breach, breach, breach!”
1:12:05 – Shots reported fired in park area of NY NY, and also Aria. Immediately dispelled for NY NY. Clearly a diversion. 1:13:15 – “We’re sending 2 teams into Excalibur right now based on that earlier detail.”
1:13:22 – On Boulevard and Tropicana, “Be advised, you got a Jeep coming up that way, going through the roadblock of cones, headed E bound on Tropicana at the Boulevard…”
1:13:51 – “I got medics reporting that they’re getting shot at, at the Tropicana!” “We have a strike team available, send them to the Tropicana”
133 – “We need the air clear for Zebra-20, they have one suspect down inside the room”
1:15:20 – Reporting negative shots fired from inside the Tropicana. (another diversion)
1:15:55 – 1:16:26 - Confirmation of main shooter down by Zebra-20 (SWAT)
133 – Reports of shots fired at Cesar’s and Bellaggio
122 – Zebra-20 asking no more people on floor 32. One officer shot “that did fire”.
121 – “We have reports of a guy with a gun here!” “75 Victor what’s your location” “At the Paris”…
141 – “Is that reported or confirmed?” “We have people running (a phone call wouldn’t do that), we have security trying to point out where the gunman is, and we can’t find him!”

 

[Trouble13]

The usual disclaimer applies: No, i don't hate America. No, i'm not wearing a 'Tinfoil Hat.' And yes, i care about the victims. Now that's out of the way, let's have a civil logical discussion.


Interesting article by Paul Craig Roberts.

Forensic Acoustic Analysis Points to Existence of a Second Shooter.

This analysis seems to make sense. If it has been done correctly, it is evidence of a second Las Vegas shooter. It is evidence not only of two sets of gunshots but of bullets hitting the ground from two different distances. So unless the bullets were being fired into the ground only, it seems people will have been hit.

On the other hand, we have what seem to be videos of crisis actors carrying pretend wounded people into a hospital, and we have videos of hospital visits with alleged seriously wounded people who have had an almost instantaneous recovery. As the letter from the purported military surgeon pointed out, quick recoveries from gunshot trauma are not the norm. Remember also the Republican congressman, Steve Scalise, who was shot in the hip last June in D.C. He was in critical condition for some time and was in no condition to be giving interviews a couple of days later. Yet, here is a video of a young woman allegedly shot in the hip at the Las Vegas concert all rosy cheeked and chatting away a mere 3 days after being “nearly paralyzed” by her gunshot injury.

If there are dead and injured, what is the point of crisis actors and interviews with victims who show no sign of trauma?

If there is acoustic evidence of two shooters from two locations, why is the official story insistent on one shooter from one location?...

Read More:
The Mystery Deepens - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

How many rounds were fired and what was the time between the first and last shot is my first question?

Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk

 

[Dschrute3]

Not sure if this will help or hinder the thoughts on the matter...The police have several channels this is only one of them that was recorded.


Recording of one of the police dispatch chats on a scanner during Las Vegas shootings. A basic rundown of conversations of this channel during the shooting events of October 1:
00:56 – Shots coming from half way up
1:12 – Active shooter INSIDE the fairground
3:44 – Shots coming FROM Gate 7
5:38 – Shots from middle of casino, west tower, towards the center, middle floors
6:59 – flashing 1/3 of the way up
9:02 – about 15th floor
14:47 – Civilian witnesses saying possible 3 shooters
14:54 – Multiple witnesses saying multiple people shot or were shooting
16:26 – White car going the wrong way towards Mandalay Bay 17:39 – Security reports shots fired on floors 29 and 32
18:30 – Security guard shot on 32nd floor
18:51 – Blockade established on 32nd floor, will need the 29th floor, “CONFIRMED there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons”
19:20 – Get cameras (cctv?) to see the 29th and 32nd floor
20:10 - All units lock your vehicles. We have citizens trying to grab shotguns.
27:08 – On the 29th floor with a 4 man element
34:02-34:50 – Older white man with fatigues and a black bag went into motor home on Tropicana, witnesses say he came from shooting area
35:10-35:13 – "someone stole patrol car, need medical" at Giles
35:33 – One WMA (White Male Adult), Man in fatigues in white RV
36:17 – Giles and Alibaba, several, several casualties
37:03 – We believe it’s the northern most room on 32nd floor, unknown on the 29th
37:26 – Putting a shotgun on the suspect in the RV, by Motel 6 behind a Clark County Fire engine
38:30 – Confirmed Giles and Alibaba, several casualties, East of the Catholic Shrine (not in the line of fire from Mandalay)
40:35 – Set up North of the Motel 6, NW area
40:52 – We have several 419s on the main stage. ("about 20 419's in here")
41:04 – Need more units at Reno and Tropicana, we might have a possible
41:50 – Be advised, there is a subject on the heli-pad
43:10 – Just FYI, we are posted on Cobalt, just North of the target RV at Tropicana
43:49 – Moving in on a possible, right on the side of Motel 6, there’s 3 of us out here
45:05 – “CONFIRMING, the Mandalay Bay and Alibaba/Giles are the 2 shooting locations!” “Do we have a 3rd?”
48:30 Request for assistance. Three critical patients in officers vehicle
50:50- 51:00- 53:00 Five critical in vehicle- Trop and Boulevard casualty collection point- Medics requesting help to get to injured @ Four Seasons and Las Vegas Boulevard
55:00 Security and teams in Mandalay Bay on shooters floor
55:30 Possible suspect Industrial and Circus
57:00 UMC (hospital) at capacity, transfer there only if critical
57:33 – Report of possible shots fired inside NY NY
58:56 – Shooter at the front desk of NY NY, and everyone is in the kitchen
59:23 – Vehicle, black Audi, at the Luxor valet, possibly 445 (bomb), wires sticking out
59:50 – Witnesses saying there is someone at the NY NY
1:00:58 – They are advising the active shooter is coming down the escalator from NY NY to Excaliber
104 – Asking for confirmation “Do we have a 415a (assault with a gun) at NY NY?!”
114 – “It originally came in saying many subjects were down… there’s one that came in at 23:06 hours saying there’s a shooter at the front desk at NY NY… and there’s approximately 150 subjects sheltered in place inside the kitchen area there, and 2 shots were fired inside casino floor. And there is several subjects down at NY NY / Zumaniti.”
1:05:13 – “Send, if there’s not already 2 strike teams in route, send 2 strike teams in route, they need to advise their call signs, and we need an update as soon as they get there.”
1:06:24 – “Ok, whoever is responding to NY NY through control side, I need someone to get in and see if this is a diversion” 1:06:54 – “Ok, now I’m getting information about an active shooter at Tropicana”
1:07:12 – “Be advised there is an active shooter at the Tropicana”
1:07:19 – “Be advised, we are getting multiple calls of active shooters at multiple locations. May or may not be diversions” 1:09:23 – “at Tropicana, they are advising there is was a Hispanic male, dark skin with an afro, unknown clothing with a backpack, said he squatted in a driveway at Hooters and looks like a suspect.”
1:01:00 "advising active shooter is coming down new york new york escalator to excalibur"
147 – Explosive breach conversation before entering main suspects room
121 – “Breach, breach, breach!”
1:12:05 – Shots reported fired in park area of NY NY, and also Aria. Immediately dispelled for NY NY. Clearly a diversion. 1:13:15 – “We’re sending 2 teams into Excalibur right now based on that earlier detail.”
1:13:22 – On Boulevard and Tropicana, “Be advised, you got a Jeep coming up that way, going through the roadblock of cones, headed E bound on Tropicana at the Boulevard…”
1:13:51 – “I got medics reporting that they’re getting shot at, at the Tropicana!” “We have a strike team available, send them to the Tropicana”
133 – “We need the air clear for Zebra-20, they have one suspect down inside the room”
1:15:20 – Reporting negative shots fired from inside the Tropicana. (another diversion)
1:15:55 – 1:16:26 - Confirmation of main shooter down by Zebra-20 (SWAT)
133 – Reports of shots fired at Cesar’s and Bellaggio
122 – Zebra-20 asking no more people on floor 32. One officer shot “that did fire”.
121 – “We have reports of a guy with a gun here!” “75 Victor what’s your location” “At the Paris”…
141 – “Is that reported or confirmed?” “We have people running (a phone call wouldn’t do that), we have security trying to point out where the gunman is, and we can’t find him!”

Hey, thanks for the info.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thank God that the police are now in possession of this info.

 

[Dschrute3]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds me of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It did seem like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

 

[skye]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It's like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

People were murdered in Vegas. No doubt about that.

It's the narrative coming from the authorities that's full of lies.

 

[Chuz Life]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It's like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

People were murdered in Vegas. No doubt about that.

It's the narrative coming from the authorities that's full of lies.

Especially by way of omission.

 

[skye]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It's like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

People were murdered in Vegas. No doubt about that.

It's the narrative coming from the authorities that's full of lies.

Especially by way of omission.

But we are winning... and there are many...many patriots inside the government .....everywhere....GOD Bless them.....who are letting the truth come out .... in this.....now..... and in the future in everything!!

 

[K9Buck]

If there was another gunman, ballistics should reveal such. You're welcome.

 

[Ace Nova]

The usual disclaimer applies: No, i don't hate America. No, i'm not wearing a 'Tinfoil Hat.' And yes, i care about the victims. Now that's out of the way, let's have a civil logical discussion.


Interesting article by Paul Craig Roberts.

Forensic Acoustic Analysis Points to Existence of a Second Shooter.

This analysis seems to make sense. If it has been done correctly, it is evidence of a second Las Vegas shooter. It is evidence not only of two sets of gunshots but of bullets hitting the ground from two different distances. So unless the bullets were being fired into the ground only, it seems people will have been hit.

On the other hand, we have what seem to be videos of crisis actors carrying pretend wounded people into a hospital, and we have videos of hospital visits with alleged seriously wounded people who have had an almost instantaneous recovery. As the letter from the purported military surgeon pointed out, quick recoveries from gunshot trauma are not the norm. Remember also the Republican congressman, Steve Scalise, who was shot in the hip last June in D.C. He was in critical condition for some time and was in no condition to be giving interviews a couple of days later. Yet, here is a video of a young woman allegedly shot in the hip at the Las Vegas concert all rosy cheeked and chatting away a mere 3 days after being “nearly paralyzed” by her gunshot injury.

If there are dead and injured, what is the point of crisis actors and interviews with victims who show no sign of trauma?

If there is acoustic evidence of two shooters from two locations, why is the official story insistent on one shooter from one location?...

Read More:
The Mystery Deepens - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

How many rounds were fired and what was the time between the first and last shot is my first question?

Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk

Somewhere around 800 rounds and the shooter shot for about 10 minutes.

 

[Chuz Life]

If there was another gunman, ballistics should reveal such. You're welcome.

Other forensics, as well.

 

[deannalw]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It's like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

People were murdered in Vegas. No doubt about that.

It's the narrative coming from the authorities that's full of lies.

Especially by way of omission.

But we are winning... and there are many...many patriots inside the government .....everywhere....GOD Bless them.....who are letting the truth come out .... in this.....now..... and in the future in everything!!

And unicorns too!

 

[skye]

I know the usual suspects will try and shame me for saying it, but something doesn't seem right. It reminds of the 'parents' of Sandy Hook victims who showed up on all the morning shows, preaching Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. I mean, they showed up on tv right after their children were supposedly horrifically murdered. What kind of parent does that? They came off as 'Crisis Actors' to me. It's like they were actors given their scripts. That never sat well with me.

People were murdered in Vegas. No doubt about that.

It's the narrative coming from the authorities that's full of lies.

Especially by way of omission.

But we are winning... and there are many...many patriots inside the government .....everywhere....GOD Bless them.....who are letting the truth come out .... in this.....now..... and in the future in everything!!

And unicorns too!

oh look ...another smartass....

yawn

 

[deannalw]

I despise most conspiracies.
But this thing has been hinky from the start. Even I am looking at what's being put out there and think, wtf?
We may never know exactly what happened so my 147 questions will just go unanswered.