Lame Stream Media Continues Pushing the Fine People Slander against Trump

[Correll]

Correct. Marxists have killed far more people than nazis.

What marxists?

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

Their actions show what they are.

Says you.

They riot and hurt people with the goal of terrorizing their political enemies.


You say that that is the actions of what? Quakers?

 

[Auld Phart]

It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

So the 'good guys' are a hoard threatening the protestors while ONE ******* protestor has a wimpy air horn. There are no 'fine' people in those photos but there were fine people there concerned about the tearing down of American historical monuments. I guess you call them white supremacists. I urge you not to believe cartoon-like photos.

Those are just two photos as an example of who was there to make the point that there was no ambiguity as to who was there and what they stood for. No people were "fooled"by supremacists.

You're ignoring the people on BOTH SIDES who were NOT part of Antifa or White Supremacists in a not-so-veiled TDS attempt at smear Trump.

Not at all. I've said repeatedly that there were no "very fine people" who marched with white supremacists. Very fine people wouldn't do that.

 

[Leo123]

Not at all. I've said repeatedly that there were no "very fine people" who marched with white supremacists. Very fine people wouldn't do that.

Who said anything about a march?

 

[22lcidw]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

You are a Fredo! A Prog Fredo! A Prog Socialist Fredo! A Prog Socialist Communist Fredo! A Hitler Fredo! A Stalin Fredo! A Pol Pot Fredo! A Castro Fredo! A Che Fredo! A Mao Fredo! Fredos galore!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

How so?

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

And that is the point of disagreement.


I and Trump believe that there were "very fine people" who were pro statue, and lured to the rally by dishonest white supremacists.

If you win this argument, the next step is that we admit that there were no fine people there.


Right? That is what you are going for, right?

LOL...
Dishonest white supremacists?
They did not hide who was organizing this protest. In fact, they advertised it. How do you imagine the counter protesters knew to attend?

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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Well, I saw some flyers, that talked about the statues, but made no overt mention of white supremacy.


Of course, maybe you are right. And if so, then I would be wrong about who was there.


That would mean that I was wrong in my judgement about who was there.


It would not mean that I thought that neo-nazis were fine people. Nor that Trump does/did.


That is what the point of contention is. What type of people were there.


Kind of pointless when you think about it.

Your ignorance of the origins and participants at Charlottsville in no way affects the relevance of the president's statements.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Not at all. I've said repeatedly that there were no "very fine people" who marched with white supremacists. Very fine people wouldn't do that.

Who said anything about a march?

No one. Go back to sleep.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What marxists?

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

Their actions show what they are.

Says you.

They riot and hurt people with the goal of terrorizing their political enemies.


You say that that is the actions of what? Quakers?

Counter protesters.
So now you know enough about who was there to make such a definitive statement?

Interesting.

 

[Correll]

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

And that is the point of disagreement.


I and Trump believe that there were "very fine people" who were pro statue, and lured to the rally by dishonest white supremacists.

If you win this argument, the next step is that we admit that there were no fine people there.


Right? That is what you are going for, right?

LOL...
Dishonest white supremacists?
They did not hide who was organizing this protest. In fact, they advertised it. How do you imagine the counter protesters knew to attend?

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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Well, I saw some flyers, that talked about the statues, but made no overt mention of white supremacy.


Of course, maybe you are right. And if so, then I would be wrong about who was there.


That would mean that I was wrong in my judgement about who was there.


It would not mean that I thought that neo-nazis were fine people. Nor that Trump does/did.


That is what the point of contention is. What type of people were there.


Kind of pointless when you think about it.

Your ignorance of the origins and participants at Charlottsville in no way affects the relevance of the president's statements.

Sure it does. IF, I am wrong about it, it is obvious from his speech, that he is wrong in the same way.


This means, that, at most, you could demonstrate that we (Trump and I) were overly optimistic about the people at the rally.



That is all.



Unless, your goal, is just to give the incorrect impression that he said something nice about nazis.


You're not actively trying to mislead people are you?

 

[Correll]

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

Their actions show what they are.

Says you.

They riot and hurt people with the goal of terrorizing their political enemies.


You say that that is the actions of what? Quakers?

Counter protesters.
So now you know enough about who was there to make such a definitive statement?

Interesting.

Attacking people and destroying property, and using the thread of violence to shut down opposing speech,


is not counter protesting.



That you lie for such people, makes you a bad person.