Lame Stream Media Continues Pushing the Fine People Slander against Trump

[rightwinger]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

 

[Correll]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

If I could convince you that there were very fine people there, ie not nazis, in support of the statues, what would that mean to you?

 

[Leo123]

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

Decide what? To be an uninformed blowhard? OK then.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well, at least they are persistent, smdh

Trump shares controversial video recasting his Charlottesville comments

Echoing a defense Trump has offered, Cortes contends that Trump’s comments were limited to people on both sides of a protest over whether to take down a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville’s Lee Park.

In fact, the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville was explicitly organized by a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis as a celebration of white nationalism. The stated goals of the organizers included unifying the American white nationalist movement and opposing the removal of the Lee statue.

The official event was presaged by a nighttime parade in which rallygoers held tiki torches aloft while chanting, “Jews will not replace us!” and “Blood and soil,” a reference to a nationalist slogan used in Nazi Germany.

Heyer, 32, was killed at the event after an avowed neo-Nazi drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters.

“It is a misrepresentation of what was happening in Charlottesville to say it was a statue protest that went wrong,” Nicole Hemmer, a presidential historian at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center who lives in Charlottesville and attended the rally as an observer, told The Post in May. “Anyone who was there that day would have walked into a park of people waving Nazi flags and people who were Klansmen. It was not a secret who put that rally on that day.”​

Yeah, because:
1) anyone that disagrees with the left is a racist and anyone that criticizes a minority person is also a racist in the view of these Woketards.

2) There were no Oath Keepers, and if there was, see observation number 1)

3) There were no Sons of Confederate Veterans, and if there was, see observation number 1)

4) There no Proud Boys there, and if there was, see observation number 1)

5) There were no Southern culture conservatives there to defend Lee's statue, and if there was see observation number 1)

There has always been a divide among the racist far-alt-right and the more moderate alt-lite, which is opposed to racism on all sides. But to the Marxists Press, that doesn't matter a hill of beans, if there was one drop of racist blood then its all evil and racist (sound familiar?)

Trump was right, there were good people on both sides of the controversy, but the Woketards like to pretend that all the good people were on their side only, because only racists oppose them and their agenda for Utopia or whatever.

"Very fine people" don't march with white supremacists at a white supremacist led event. Period.

Nice changing of the subject there.

How so?

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

If I could convince you that there were very fine people there, ie not nazis, in support of the statues, what would that mean to you?

That there was third group not referenced by Trump.

 

[Leo123]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

If I could convince you that there were very fine people there, ie not nazis, in support of the statues, what would that mean to you?

That there was third group not referenced by Trump.

Positive proof that TDS is real.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Very fine people" don't march with white supremacists at a white supremacist led event. Period.

and very fine people don't hang with Antifa when they're headed for a rumble.

and yet, both types were there, some wanting the statue to stay, some wanting it moved.

Opposing fascist white supremacy is always the right thing to do. There is no equivalence.

Correct. Marxists have killed far more people than nazis.

What marxists?

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

If I could convince you that there were very fine people there, ie not nazis, in support of the statues, what would that mean to you?

That there was third group not referenced by Trump.

Positive proof that TDS is real.

Sure.....on both sides.

 

[Correll]

Well, at least they are persistent, smdh

Trump shares controversial video recasting his Charlottesville comments

Echoing a defense Trump has offered, Cortes contends that Trump’s comments were limited to people on both sides of a protest over whether to take down a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville’s Lee Park.

In fact, the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville was explicitly organized by a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis as a celebration of white nationalism. The stated goals of the organizers included unifying the American white nationalist movement and opposing the removal of the Lee statue.

The official event was presaged by a nighttime parade in which rallygoers held tiki torches aloft while chanting, “Jews will not replace us!” and “Blood and soil,” a reference to a nationalist slogan used in Nazi Germany.

Heyer, 32, was killed at the event after an avowed neo-Nazi drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters.

“It is a misrepresentation of what was happening in Charlottesville to say it was a statue protest that went wrong,” Nicole Hemmer, a presidential historian at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center who lives in Charlottesville and attended the rally as an observer, told The Post in May. “Anyone who was there that day would have walked into a park of people waving Nazi flags and people who were Klansmen. It was not a secret who put that rally on that day.”​

Yeah, because:
1) anyone that disagrees with the left is a racist and anyone that criticizes a minority person is also a racist in the view of these Woketards.

2) There were no Oath Keepers, and if there was, see observation number 1)

3) There were no Sons of Confederate Veterans, and if there was, see observation number 1)

4) There no Proud Boys there, and if there was, see observation number 1)

5) There were no Southern culture conservatives there to defend Lee's statue, and if there was see observation number 1)

There has always been a divide among the racist far-alt-right and the more moderate alt-lite, which is opposed to racism on all sides. But to the Marxists Press, that doesn't matter a hill of beans, if there was one drop of racist blood then its all evil and racist (sound familiar?)

Trump was right, there were good people on both sides of the controversy, but the Woketards like to pretend that all the good people were on their side only, because only racists oppose them and their agenda for Utopia or whatever.

"Very fine people" don't march with white supremacists at a white supremacist led event. Period.

Nice changing of the subject there.

How so?

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

And that is the point of disagreement.


I and Trump believe that there were "very fine people" who were pro statue, and lured to the rally by dishonest white supremacists.

If you win this argument, the next step is that we admit that there were no fine people there.


Right? That is what you are going for, right?

 

[Correll]

You show up at a rally and find out it is a white supremacist event

If you stick around for the rally, you are not a fine person

Who are you to decide that? What if I want to video what's going on? What about reporters? At Charlottesville there were many folks taking videos. Some were, in fact, 'fine' people.

I am a USMB poster.....that means I get to decide

You decide to march with hate group, you don’t get to claim to be a fine person

If I could convince you that there were very fine people there, ie not nazis, in support of the statues, what would that mean to you?

That there was third group not referenced by Trump.

So, you didn't read the transcripts? Cause there are only two explanations for you to say, that, ignorance or massive dishonesty.

 

[Correll]

and very fine people don't hang with Antifa when they're headed for a rumble.

and yet, both types were there, some wanting the statue to stay, some wanting it moved.

Opposing fascist white supremacy is always the right thing to do. There is no equivalence.

Correct. Marxists have killed far more people than nazis.

What marxists?

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

Their actions show what they are.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Very fine people" don't march with white supremacists at a white supremacist led event. Period.

Nice changing of the subject there.

How so?

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

And that is the point of disagreement.


I and Trump believe that there were "very fine people" who were pro statue, and lured to the rally by dishonest white supremacists.

If you win this argument, the next step is that we admit that there were no fine people there.


Right? That is what you are going for, right?

LOL...
Dishonest white supremacists?
They did not hide who was organizing this protest. In fact, they advertised it. How do you imagine the counter protesters knew to attend?

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Opposing fascist white supremacy is always the right thing to do. There is no equivalence.

Correct. Marxists have killed far more people than nazis.

What marxists?

Antifa, the people that support them, those marxist.

Says who......you? Are they self-avowed marxists like the supremacists were?
Of course not, liar.

Their actions show what they are.

Says you.

 

[Leo123]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy with an apprent 'mean' white supremacist deploying an 'assault' horn. Cartoonish crap.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

 

[Leo123]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

So the 'good guys' are a hoard threatening the protestors while ONE FUCKING protestor has a wimpy air horn. There are no 'fine' people in those photos but there were fine people there concerned about the tearing down of American historical monuments. I guess you call them white supremacists. I urge you not to believe cartoon-like photos.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

So the 'good guys' are a hoard threatening the protestors while ONE FUCKING protestor has a wimpy air horn. There are no 'fine' people in those photos but there were fine people there concerned about the tearing down of American historical monuments. I guess you call them white supremacists. I urge you not to believe cartoon-like photos.

Those are just two photos as an example of who was there to make the point that there was no ambiguity as to who was there and what they stood for. No people were "fooled"by supremacists.

 

[Leo123]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

So the 'good guys' are a hoard threatening the protestors while ONE FUCKING protestor has a wimpy air horn. There are no 'fine' people in those photos but there were fine people there concerned about the tearing down of American historical monuments. I guess you call them white supremacists. I urge you not to believe cartoon-like photos.

Those are just two photos as an example of who was there to make the point that there was no ambiguity as to who was there and what they stood for. No people were "fooled"by supremacists.

You're ignoring the people on BOTH SIDES who were NOT part of Antifa or White Supremacists in a not-so-veiled TDS attempt at smear Trump.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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It looks like that one banner says 'against' white supremacy.

Umm...yeah. That's the "both sides".
No ambiguity over who is who.

So the 'good guys' are a hoard threatening the protestors while ONE FUCKING protestor has a wimpy air horn. There are no 'fine' people in those photos but there were fine people there concerned about the tearing down of American historical monuments. I guess you call them white supremacists. I urge you not to believe cartoon-like photos.

Those are just two photos as an example of who was there to make the point that there was no ambiguity as to who was there and what they stood for. No people were "fooled"by supremacists.

You're ignoring the people on BOTH SIDES who were NOT part of Antifa or White Supremacists in a not-so-veiled TDS attempt at smear Trump.

Not at all. I've said repeatedly that there were no "very fine people" who marched with white supremacists. Very fine people wouldn't do that.

 

[Correll]

Nice changing of the subject there.

How so?

The OP shows Trump making the claim that he was talking not about nazis, but about people on both sides of the issue of historical statues.


This is in response to the oft repeated claim that Trump said that "nazis are "fine people" ".



By starting a debate over whether or not "fine people" could have been there on the side of the statues,


you are change the subject to, could "fine people" have been there or not.


Speaking for myself, AND for Trump, if you win the argument that fine people could not have been there, the next step would be us, admitting, ok we were wrong, there were no "fine people" there.


ANYONE with even the slightest bit of honesty in their soul, who read the transcripts, can see that Trump, was referring to a group of people he believed were there, that did NOT include nazis..

HE states that several times, clearly and explicitly.


So, imo, the whole argument of if he (we) are right or wrong about who was there, is really moot.


Because the real goal of stating that he said it about neonazis" is to smear him and his supporters.


So, the moment you accept that the disagreement is, whether or not "fine people" were there, you are admitting that that SHOULD be off the table.

You're missing the point that it was a rally organized by, advertised by and led by white supremacist groups. There were also counter protest groups. That would be the "both sides" engahed in violence referred to by Trump.


Again," very fine people " don't march with supremacists dressed in full regalia.

And that is the point of disagreement.


I and Trump believe that there were "very fine people" who were pro statue, and lured to the rally by dishonest white supremacists.

If you win this argument, the next step is that we admit that there were no fine people there.


Right? That is what you are going for, right?

LOL...
Dishonest white supremacists?
They did not hide who was organizing this protest. In fact, they advertised it. How do you imagine the counter protesters knew to attend?

There was no ambiguity about who was who.

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Well, I saw some flyers, that talked about the statues, but made no overt mention of white supremacy.


Of course, maybe you are right. And if so, then I would be wrong about who was there.


That would mean that I was wrong in my judgement about who was there.


It would not mean that I thought that neo-nazis were fine people. Nor that Trump does/did.


That is what the point of contention is. What type of people were there.


Kind of pointless when you think about it.