Kyle Rittenhouse

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And maybe it's for political reasons.

And maybe it isn't. Since none of the other people involved shot and killed anyone...yeah, i will go with that. I always like when things align more with facts and reality than with partisan fantasies.

If it is demonstrated that a riot can be put down by just a few men with rifles, then why do we need the state, then?

Because the last thong we need is chaos and vigilante pukes with no order or respect for law imposing their will. Dude, you're asking questions the human race answered like centuries ago haha

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The guy who got his bicep shot off was a felon with a handgun, actively attacking someone with it, when he was shot

False. Sorry. Maybe you didnt hear, but that wasnt true, and he had a perfectly legal license to carry.

Got anything else? I suppose not, since your entire diatribe rested on that error.

 

[DrLove]

Sometimes I'm afraid that I agree with you on more stuff than I'd probably care to admit

There might be hope for you yet.

I get that, but hope to never become a grumpy old hermit who hates people.

 

[DrLove]

Because the last thong we need is chaos and vigilante pukes with no order or respect for law imposing their will. Dude, you're asking questions the human race answered like centuries ago haha

Cool Loon, but the last “thong” I need?
Is a thong! You ghay??

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Because the last thong we need is chaos and vigilante pukes with no order or respect for law imposing their will. Dude, you're asking questions the human race answered like centuries ago haha

Cool Loon, but the last “thong” I need?
Is a thong!

That was my quote.

 

[freyasman]

And maybe it's for political reasons.

And maybe it isn't. Since none of the other people involved shot and killed anyone...yeah, i will go with that. I always like when things align more with facts and reality than with partisan fantasies.

If it is demonstrated that a riot can be put down by just a few men with rifles, then why do we need the state, then?

Because the last thong we need is chaos and vigilante pukes with no order or respect for law imposing their will. Dude, you're asking questions the human race answered like centuries ago haha

You're presuming that people willing to enforce order without being on a government payroll, are immoral or somehow desire chaos; that's simple-minded bullshit.

And I don't see you objecting to the mob enforcing it's will on folks, so spare me your hypocrisy.

 

[freyasman]

The guy who got his bicep shot off was a felon with a handgun, actively attacking someone with it, when he was shot

False. Sorry. Maybe you didnt hear, but that wasnt true, and he had a perfectly legal license to carry.

Got anything else? I suppose not, since your entire diatribe rested on that error.

Really? I'd like a link to that.

Don't much care though, because I have stated more than once that I don't have any problem with felons having guns....... attacking someone with it, is still a crime though.
And he did.
On video.
And he hasn't been charged.



Why do you suppose that is, if not politics?
What other reason is there?

 

[Coyote]

Why is he the only one being prosecuted?

I am not your assistant. Make your points.

Maybe it's because he is the only one who harmed and killed people? Good luck.

And maybe it's for political reasons.
The state wants a monopoly on force, and always seeks to punish anyone who uses force without their okay, whether justified or not.
If it is demonstrated that a riot can be put down by just a few men with rifles, then why do we need the state, then?
Why then, do we need police and DA's and judges and all the rest?



“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.” ― Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle

So you just better hope there are more “good men” with rifles than idiotic wannabes like Rittenhouse who shot and killed two unarmed men.

At least those employed by the state know law and can be held accountable. Vigilantes? Not so much. History is full of bad examp,es.

 

[freyasman]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

Yes, that is clear.

http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

It's also clear that you are not on the side of the decent people.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're presuming that people willing to enforce order without being on a government payroll, are immoral or somehow desire chaos; that's simple-minded bullshit.

False. You don't wield your qualifiers (existential vs. Universal) very well. It would not have to be all pf them, or even most for the idea of anarchy to be undesirable for the reasons i mentioned.

Sorry buddy...if you are looking to male arguments for anarchy and a vigilante justice system, you are going to have to find someone from another planet who won't laugh at it. Don't waste your time with me.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

Yes, that is clear.

http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

It's also clear that you are not on the side of the decent people.

Oh look, a link you never read. Do you think this somehow rectifies your error that was the complete foundation of your entire rant? It doesn't.

Got anything else?

 

[freyasman]

Why is he the only one being prosecuted?

I am not your assistant. Make your points.

Maybe it's because he is the only one who harmed and killed people? Good luck.

And maybe it's for political reasons.
The state wants a monopoly on force, and always seeks to punish anyone who uses force without their okay, whether justified or not.
If it is demonstrated that a riot can be put down by just a few men with rifles, then why do we need the state, then?
Why then, do we need police and DA's and judges and all the rest?



“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.” ― Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle

So you just better hope there are more “good men” with rifles than idiotic wannabes like Rittenhouse who shot and killed two unarmed men.

At least those employed by the state know law and can be held accountable. Vigilantes? Not so much. History is full of bad examp,es.

Did you really just state that agents of the state are held accountable for misconduct?

Wow........

 

[Coyote]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

Yes, that is clear.

http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

It's also clear that you are not on the side of the decent people.

It is clear you are on the side of murderers. Not exactly what most call decent people.

 

[freyasman]

You're presuming that people willing to enforce order without being on a government payroll, are immoral or somehow desire chaos; that's simple-minded bullshit.

False. You don't wield your qualifiers (existential vs. Universal) very well. It would not have to be all pf them, or even most for the idea of anarchy to be undesirable for the reasons i mentioned.

Sorry buddy...if you are looking to male arguments for anarchy and a vigilante justice system, you are going to have to find someone from another planet who won't laugh at it. Don't waste your time with me.

I'm starting to agree that you are a waste of time, but "anarchy" doesn't mean what you think it does, and people can govern themselves quite well, left to their own devices.

It takes government to really fuck things up.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

attacking someone with it, is still a crime though.
And he did.
On video.

Liar. I would say you are making an error, but as you said, its on video. He was not assaulting Rittenhouse with his weapon.

You keep having to rely on lies and errors. That should be a strong clue that your arguments are kaput.

Rittenhouse is charged because he threatened people with an illegal firearm first. Prosecutors don't accept his later actions of shooting and killing those same people as self defense. Nor should they.

You better hope, for the poor kid's sake, his lawyers have much better arguments than you do.

 

[Coyote]

Why is he the only one being prosecuted?

I am not your assistant. Make your points.

Maybe it's because he is the only one who harmed and killed people? Good luck.

And maybe it's for political reasons.
The state wants a monopoly on force, and always seeks to punish anyone who uses force without their okay, whether justified or not.
If it is demonstrated that a riot can be put down by just a few men with rifles, then why do we need the state, then?
Why then, do we need police and DA's and judges and all the rest?



“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.” ― Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle

So you just better hope there are more “good men” with rifles than idiotic wannabes like Rittenhouse who shot and killed two unarmed men.

At least those employed by the state know law and can be held accountable. Vigilantes? Not so much. History is full of bad examp,es.

Did you really just state that agents of the state are held accountable for misconduct?

Wow........

Wow is right.

I said CAN BE. The system isn’t perfect but it is a hell of a lot better than a bunch vigilantes taking it upon themselves to be judge, jury and executioner.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

and people can govern themselves quite well, left to their own devices

Then go somewhere and do it and leave civilized, educated people alone instead of pestering them with shit we laughed out of the room centuries ago.

 

[freyasman]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

Yes, that is clear.

http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

It's also clear that you are not on the side of the decent people.

Oh look, a link you never read. Do you think this somehow rectifies your error that was the complete foundation of your entire rant? It doesn't.

Got anything else?

You have a very twisted view of what traits are desirable in people.

 

[freyasman]

freyasman

Another fun little fact:

The little lie the child killer told about going there to provide "medical services" was a lie.

Ironically, the guy whose arm he shot is a trained medic who was there providing medical services to injured people.

It's pretty clear with are dealing with two levels of quality of people, here.

Yes, that is clear.

http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

It's also clear that you are not on the side of the decent people.

It is clear you are on the side of murderers. Not exactly what most call decent people.

What murder?