Krugman Poll on Canadian Healthcare

[Jay Canuck]

How about we send 12 million illegals north and you pay for their health care. Then you can ask what that has to do with it.

The point Willow was making is that the number that is in HEAVY rotation in Dem talking points is not a solid or good number. You asked "how many," well about 30 some million Americans don't have health care insurance. But, does that translate into, "can't get health care?" No. All the uninsured have to do is the same thing the illegals do, go sit in the emergency room. They'll get treated and someone with insurance will pick up the tab. Is that a great plan, no. But, it's better than the government running it. It can be fixed, but the Dems have been blocking reforms for decades trying to build up enough dissatisfaction in health care for a government takeover to carry the day.

don't bother Tech.. you can tell by his stupidity he's just another ordinary asswipe@

you have to prove that you are a citizen to get your healthcare card here ...so that nips your stupid little arguement right in the bud there dorko.

 

[WillowTree]

sounds like another strawman arguement

It is another strawman argument. When the 43 million person number is floated around, it refers to AMERICANS, not illegals.

got a link?

 

[Jay Canuck]

the only plan so far we have from the Neo-tards is a two part plan - lies and no.

 

[Tech_Esq]

no I'm not....and nobody else should be either when you are citing a poll conducted on less than 5000 people on a media call list like it's a real indicator of how all Americans feel....... ABC - they should stick to T.V shows like Full House

Not satisfied with having fucked up your own country, you want to advocate others **** up theirs. I guess you are a living example of how misery loves company.

That's hilarious coming from a tard who no doubt voted for Dubya twice.
Most Canadians would argue that having healthcare for everyone is not fucked up that's why we voted for it.

You have health care for whomever your bureaucrats say you have coverage for. More concisely, whatever your 'crats say you have coverage for. How long do you wait for an MRI? How long do you wait to get ortho surgery? How long to get a routine radiation like a mamogram? Once a diagnosis has been rendered, how long do you wait for specialist treatment?

Give me a ******* break, you clearly don't even understand the question let alone know the answer.

 

[Tech_Esq]

don't bother Tech.. you can tell by his stupidity he's just another ordinary asswipe@

you have to prove that you are a citizen to get your healthcare card here ...so that nips your stupid little arguement right in the bud there dorko.

So, I see you voted for a national ID card too. Great. And, when canada builds concentration camps, your just the kind of guy to lead the parade into them.

 

[WillowTree]

don't bother Tech.. you can tell by his stupidity he's just another ordinary asswipe@

you have to prove that you are a citizen to get your healthcare card here ...so that nips your stupid little arguement right in the bud there dorko.

yes? you were saying??? and did you explain why the dumbocrats voted down the Heller Amendment??? did you refresh your memory with the expertedness of the illegals to procure fase identification???? ss numbers, drivers license,, voter registration, oh and they even buy homes here,, get ninja loans.. no jobs, no assets, no income.. so nice try,, try again whydonchya?

 

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Krugman Poll on Canadian Healthcare

Krugman is such an idiot. I'm glad the video was so short because I can't stand to listen to him.

 

[WillowTree]

the only plan so far we have from the Neo-tards is a two part plan - lies and no.

The party of KNOW will in fact for NO.

 

[Vast LWC]

did ya watch the frickin video.. asswipe?

I watched the video. It showed that 7 Canadians that went to a health care seminar were unhapy with their health care system. Big surprise. Who is going to take the most interest in a seminar like that except people that are concerned about their system?

And the video didn't say anything about your claim, culled from various opinion pieces, that there are 12 million illegal immigrants included in the 40+ million number of un-insured.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

It doesn't matter what the left or right wingers in this thread say, that video is damn hillarious.

 

[Tech_Esq]

the only plan so far we have from the Neo-tards is a two part plan - lies and no.

Actually, like always thus far, you have your head in your arse.

The right has had proposals on health care that have been routinely blocked by the left for over 2 decades as they tried to build momentum for nationalizing. Like knocking down the walls they only allows health care plans to be offerred on a state by state basis. This artificially raises the rates in many states and on small business that would otherwise be able to form pools to lower costs.

Health Savings Accounts have been implemented but under utilized. They could form the basis for a tax credit funded account that allows individuals to pay for health care with the same cost savings as employers get. (But the Dems blocked that plan as they did the one above).

those are just for starters. I could go on, but you wouldn't read it, so why bother.

 

[Vast LWC]

Not if you factor out the number of deaths due to homocide and car accident which are wildly higher in the US.

So now your againsnt the second amendment?

Feel free to provide a link to numbers that support that little theory of yours, cause it's complete BS.

And wouldn't a better healthcare system be better able to treat attempted homocide and motor vehicle accident victims? Thus less deaths. DUH.

You seem to be a very angry person. Perhaps you've been listening to too much FoxNews and Ruuuush Limbaugh for your own good. You might want to tone that down a bit before your head explodes from too much right-wing-nut-job brainwashing.

 

[WillowTree]

did ya watch the frickin video.. asswipe?

I watched the video. It showed that 7 Canadians that went to a health care seminar were unhapy with their health care system. Big surprise. Who is going to take the most interest in a seminar like that except people that are concerned about their system?

And the video didn't say anything about your claim, culled from various opinion pieces, that there are 12 million illegal immigrants included in the 40+ million number of un-insured.

why do so many canucks cross the border to seek treatment in the US of KKKA doyathink?? if it's so frickin great up there??? please and thank you

 

[Meister]

no I'm not....and nobody else should be either when you are citing a poll conducted on less than 5000 people on a media call list like it's a real indicator of how all Americans feel....... ABC - they should stick to T.V shows like Full House

Not satisfied with having fucked up your own country, you want to advocate others **** up theirs. I guess you are a living example of how misery loves company.

That's hilarious coming from a tard who no doubt voted for Dubya twice.
Most Canadians would argue that having healthcare for everyone is not fucked up that's why we voted for it.[/QUOTE]


Voted for it, then the private clinics are starting to grow in Canada because of it. You must like the long waits to get your healthcare. Must like the fact you can always come here for the cancer treatments in a timely manner. Not to mention the higher survival rates we have in America for cancer, and heart disease. Yup, you've convinced all of us that your the "tard"......

 

[Jay Canuck]

so healthcare is the way it is today because of the Democrats. Please tell us another ....you're a funny guy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey Gay Canuk,

When the Clintons tried to socialize Healthcare they claimed that there were "47 MM uninsured Americans" now Obama is claiming that there are 47MM people, including 12MM illegals who don't have access to health insurance

That means that since Clinton's failed attempt to nationalize health care 12MM Americans got health insurance"

 

[Meister]

Not if you factor out the number of deaths due to homocide and car accident which are wildly higher in the US.

So now your againsnt the second amendment?

Feel free to provide a link to numbers that support that little theory of yours, cause it's complete BS.

And wouldn't a better healthcare system be better able to treat attempted homocide and motor vehicle accident victims? Thus less deaths. DUH.

You seem to be a very angry person. Perhaps you've been listening to too much FoxNews and Ruuuush Limbaugh for your own good. You might want to tone that down a bit before your head explodes from too much right-wing-nut-job brainwashing.

Tell me your not this big of a moron.
Those victims are all treated under our healthcare system. You think we look to see if they have an insurance card, and if they don't we just leave them.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

so healthcare is the way it is today because of the Democrats. Please tell us another ....you're a funny guy.

Actually it is the way it is today because of the democrats and republicans in congress and the presidents office over the last 30 years.

If we want to be honest about it that is.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Not if you factor out the number of deaths due to homocide and car accident which are wildly higher in the US.

So now your againsnt the second amendment?

Feel free to provide a link to numbers that support that little theory of yours, cause it's complete BS.

And wouldn't a better healthcare system be better able to treat attempted homocide and motor vehicle accident victims? Thus less deaths. DUH.

You seem to be a very angry person. Perhaps you've been listening to too much FoxNews and Ruuuush Limbaugh for your own good. You might want to tone that down a bit before your head explodes from too much right-wing-nut-job brainwashing.

If I'm angry, it's only because I have a president that is more media over-exposed than Britany Spears ever was and thinks he needs to talk (err...lie) to me every other day.

How do you get second amendment? Oh, that's right, you're left wing stalinist. You think the only way that homocide occurs is by gunshot.

You come in here spouting a bunch of BS and have the timarity to tell me to back my shit up? Sorry, I failed to see your link.

No, our medical care is not good enough to bring DOAs back from the dead wacko

 

[Jay Canuck]

Not satisfied with having fucked up your own country, you want to advocate others **** up theirs. I guess you are a living example of how misery loves company.

That's hilarious coming from a tard who no doubt voted for Dubya twice.
Most Canadians would argue that having healthcare for everyone is not fucked up that's why we voted for it.[/QUOTE]


Voted for it, then the private clinics are starting to grow in Canada because of it. You must like the long waits to get your healthcare. Must like the fact you can always come here for the cancer treatments in a timely manner. Not to mention the higher survival rates we have in America for cancer, and heart disease. Yup, you've convinced all of us that your the "tard"......

is that what the Canadians you know have been saying?

of course the last time I looked at the WHO ratings the U.S was in 37 place and Canada was 7 places ahead of you.....not quite #1 huh?