Know Your Anti-Immigrant

[Porter Rockwell]

Full disclosure: I voted for Donald Trump as the lesser of two evils. The evil I got was one I did not want. Trump has to be the first president that could violate the Constitution three different ways with one Executive Order.

Having said that, I've done a number of threads here that have gotten a record number of responses. Mostly I expose the wallists (those who have made a religion out of militarizing the southern border) as their proposed solutions violates MY RIGHTS. We definitely have a problem with foreigners coming here; however, the leadership that is forming the proposed solutions, introducing the legislation, and parroting the talking points are not who you think they are. So, here is a classic example of the kinds of people the Trump machine attracts:

GOP 'deportation bus' candidate in Georgia pleads guilty

I would like to point out you should really have studied history deeper. Do you take property from American people and cause the people to sell out to a friend who is going to make millions on it. Is that a violation? Well FDR did it to Americans who were from Japan. There are more so read and learn....

I minored in history and did pretty good. I didn't get much out of your post.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

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My wife has a son by a previous marriage that is homeless - and it's by choice. IF there are that many Americans living in those conditions, maybe you would be well served in helping me identify them and helping them get out of that situation.

You won't. You need them to be homeless so you can ***** about mythical "illegals" taking over.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I'd like to cut this short so that pismoe and I don't end up taking the same road Correll and I are taking in another thread. Here is a copy / paste of the bottom line on the subject of immigration:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all menare created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

By the time we get to the Constitution, our ancestors had this to say:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."

There are two interpretations between these two. In the Declaration of Independence, Liberty is a gift from the Creator (your God, whomever you deem that to be.) It is unalienable which means it is above the reach of government. Government has NO JURISDICTION over unalienable Rights.

In the Constitution, we created the equivalent of a contract between we, the people, and that entity called government. That contract applied only to the posterity of the white race and that entity called government. (See the United States Supreme Court decision Dred Scott v. Sanford)

The 14th Amendment nullified the ruling in Dred Scott v. Sanford. The 14th Amendment guarantees to ALL PERSONS (not citizens) the now privilege (NOT RIGHT) of Liberty.

It's obvious to me that you have not studied law or history so you don't know which of those positions you are taking. But, so far what you articulate is the third position. Government grants you your rights? Is that your position? So, you have NO Rights... no Right to own a firearm, no Right to choose your own religion (or no religion), no Right to Freedom of Speech or Privacy; no Right to Due Process, etc. You're going to put government in charge of that? Really? So, what you're arguing is that government is in the Rights granting business? I want you think about where you stand on this and get back to me. {END OF QUOTE}

Liberty is either granted by a Creator at birth and no one is beholden to the government in the exercise of this Right. You either believe in it or you don't. Citizenship, OTOH, is a privilege. Current laws seek to force foreigners to become citizens in exchange for their being able to partake of the free market. Under the current law, since there is no Liberty for the citizenry, there is none for the foreigner. Those promoting the wallist theology are opposed to the Constitution.

Once upon a time many years ago a man with a pen, telephone put in a prison camp100.000 s of people. By doing this he also helped his friend take their property and make a ton of money. This was done without any court hearings, or legal system used. While there they were guarded behind barb wire and the U.S Army with guns at ready. OK do you know who this was The man was a Democrat liberal white man called FDR....His friend was Rudolf Randal Hurst. Sounds like the Law of the Constitution was violated.

The Constitution has been violated by the political propaganda prostitutes for quite a number of years, and especially since the War of Northern Aggression coupled with the illegally ratified 14th Amendment. None of what you're talking about has any bearing on this thread. Are you lost?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I have a problem with the part that you are lying.

In professional circles, there are always white collar jobs available. The Kaiser I go to for health care was hiring for an LPN position. About eight candidates showed up for the job. I was waiting to be seen by a specialist and didn't know they were there for the job. Then a lady stepped outside the door and said all those applying for the LPN positions come this way. All eight were black and virtually all of them were non - English speaking!

On the semi-skilled side of the fence, if you can get a CDL, you can get a job within 24 hours.

If you need a job and have minimal skills, get yourself a ladder, lawnmower and a truck. You can make $25 to $30 an hour cutting grass, cleaning out gutters, and trimming hedges. Hang out at Home Depot. They have FREE classes on how to do various jobs. Once you learn them, add that to your offerings.

Correll, I know you're full of shit because I'm searching the Internet and advertising almost daily. There are more jobs than there are people to apply for them. Most of what I get is the Bubba type with a 6 MPG truck and expecting a surgeon's wages for a skill set that took all of six months to learn OR a few Mexicans in a van. Older and lower income people are NOT going to lose their home because some white guy has an over-inflated opinion of his worth. Case in point:

When I had surgery a couple of years ago, I advertised on Craigslist for someone to change an overflow valve I had bought for a water heater. Had I not had stomach surgery, I would have done it. The first POS that shows up is a white guy in a van. He looks at the valve, goes to his truck and half an hour later comes back with an estimate for $245. He charged $40 for the "service call." I gave him the money for his "service call" and gave him exactly 40 seconds to get off my property. The next guy came over and we went down stairs. He looked at and then said, "where is the breaker for your water heater?" He flipped the breaker and water valve off and went for his tools. By the time he came back downstairs I had the water draining from the water heater. He swapped the valves out. He switched the breaker back on, turned the water valve on and waited for about 5 minutes for the water to fill and the system to work. He charged $30 and the whole deal was done in under 20 minutes.

There are plenty of jobs, Correll. If someone wants to work, if they are entrepreneurial, they can make $50 grand a year for forty hour work weeks. Insofar as "jobs" with traditional employers, it's their job so I believe in letting them hire the candidate of their choice. The employer owns the job. Besides, if we played your game it would be the LBGQT community wanting the job, then the black guy, then the woman, the religious "minority" (be it Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, etc.) White Americans would be the last on the list.

So, no Correll, I do not support forcing people to give up their private property Rights. That's your real beef. But, the fact is, NOBODY OWES YOU A LIVING. There are plenty of jobs IF you want to work. I pay $20 to $30 per hour and cannot get people to apply for the jobs. I KNOW what you post is absolute bullshit.

I don't know what you think you are demonstrating up there, other than a lack of concern for your fellow Americans.


We have been flooding the AMERICAN labor market with foreigners for decades, generations even. Excuse me, I meant to say, ******* FOREIGNERS.


For generations, working class Americans have been paying a heavy price for that, in reduced wages and opportunities.


I'm glad that you have managed to get good help cheap.


But now, it is the turn on the working class to get some attention to their interests. It has been ONE year that we are finally seeing some movement on wages, after generations of stagnation.


Check back with me in 50 years, and I will be open to letting you, as a employer, having your next turn.

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it.

He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.


Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.

He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".


I deleted a lot of filler.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business.

No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.


I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?

They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes.

Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. **** THEM.

Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.

1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE

Walls Don't Work

2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to

3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU

4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.

Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans

5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.

We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.

1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.


2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.


3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.

4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?

1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?

If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business

2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out

3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass

4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?

Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

In order to do that, you must accept the larger picture. In terms of cost a wall is much like brushing your teeth with Drano. Everything has its price and in this case it isn't the money.

I do not have to accept your larger picture. Saying that I do, is not an argument. It is nearly the opposite of an argument.

Donnie Chump is never going to build a freaking wall. So, you can pound sand. He's going to screw you like he screwed gun owners with his unconstitutional bump stock ban and then his announcement he is going to ban silencers... his constituency is getting their asses kicked incrementally and so have the wall worshipers.

Perhaps. What was I supposed to do? Vote for ******* Hillary and hope she build a Wall? LOL!!!!


It is one thing to disagree with me. TO ignore that I was choosing among limited choices, is not reasonable of you.


Have I done anything like that to you?

That post cannot be separated from the hundreds if not a thousand exchanges that have preceded it between you and I. Do we have to summarize where we've been?
......

And no where among them did I play a game where I ignored the context of your decision to slam you on the grounds of you not making the perfect, not available choice.


You have a few good points, but you consistently bury them under various types of bs.

You have slammed me with lies, misrepresentations, deflections, and putting words into my mouth, accusing me in nearly every exchange of saying things I absolutely did not say. Then you can't back it up.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

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My wife has a son by a previous marriage that is homeless - and it's by choice. IF there are that many Americans living in those conditions, maybe you would be well served in helping me identify them and helping them get out of that situation.

You won't. You need them to be homeless so you can ***** about mythical "illegals" taking over.

i know that some are out there by chose

gimmie a break though holier than thou progressive nazi

Believe me i know some wanna be out there ...
Actually the homeless problem has been in my face my whole life ...just about
Back in the day they'd rather be on the street it was safer than the shelters
Im sure you can teach me some lesson cracka with yer junkie kids


Maybe we can use the obamas illegal alien kiddie cages to house them , blame trump ,while a third of NYC public housing spaces are vacant........ ALSO while debalsio sells space to throw up luxury towers on PUBLIC HOUSING projects land ....thats gonna go well


Speaking of racist nazis NYC keeps asians , latinos , and blacks separated in public housing
OH YES THE Y DO BY RACE

ANYWAY
Certain homeless i would give food or money to .
New yorkers sometimes we'd pass the same homeless person everyday and we'd actually get to know em. Its the same thing as cops in the same hood ya get to know em by name . ....long before most of you retard transplants showed up When i was in midotwn every morning id always ask one guy who hung out in front of where id get breakfast or coffee if he ate

Sometimes i'd get him first or someone else would already have bought him breakfast .
they wouldnt let him in the place they'd yell out the door "whadddya want !!!"and bring it out to him ....they wouldn't let him because hed always wind up in the bathroom taking a bath in sink .

i was drunk on christmas eve i gave an older black lady 200 bucks ...oh yeah ive done stupid shit like that to .....i could go on but i waste my breath .

in later years the white transplants from out of town who wound up on the street I wouldnt give em the time of day and would tell them to GO the **** back home to the heartland... a lot of em we're strung out junkies like yer kid or step child rather
Ill say a prayer for you and him


We'd bury them in food jackets ,blankies,clothes
NYC still has a giant winter jacket drive for the homeless every year ...doing it for decades
Forget all the advocates on the street when the temp drops really low the cops and advocates will get em off the street so they dont freeze to death ....from global warming

 

[Porter Rockwell]

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My wife has a son by a previous marriage that is homeless - and it's by choice. IF there are that many Americans living in those conditions, maybe you would be well served in helping me identify them and helping them get out of that situation.

You won't. You need them to be homeless so you can ***** about mythical "illegals" taking over.

i know that some are out there by chose

gimmie a break though holier than thou progressive nazi

Believe me i know some wanna be out there ...
Actually the homeless problem has been in my face my whole life ...just about
Back in the day they'd rather be on the street it was safer than the shelters
Im sure you can teach me some lesson cracka with yer junkie kids


Maybe we can use the obamas illegal alien kiddie cages to house them , blame trump ,while a third of NYC public housing spaces are vacant........ ALSO while debalsio sells space to throw up luxury towers on PUBLIC HOUSING projects land ....thats gonna go well


Speaking of racist nazis NYC keeps asians , latinos , and blacks separated in public housing
OH YES THE Y DO BY RACE

ANYWAY
Certain homeless i would give food or money to .
New yorkers sometimes we'd pass the same homeless person everyday and we'd actually get to know em. Its the same thing as cops in the same hood ya get to know em by name . ....long before most of you retard transplants showed up When i was in midotwn every morning id always ask one guy who hung out in front of where id get breakfast or coffee if he ate

Sometimes i'd get him first or someone else would already have bought him breakfast .
they wouldnt let him in the place they'd yell out the door "whadddya want !!!"and bring it out to him ....they wouldn't let him because hed always wind up in the bathroom taking a bath in sink .

i was drunk on christmas eve i gave an older black lady 200 bucks ...oh yeah ive done stupid shit like that to .....i could go on but i waste my breath .

in later years the white transplants from out of town who wound up on the street I wouldnt give em the time of day and would tell them to GO the **** back home to the heartland... a lot of em we're strung out junkies like yer kid or step child rather
Ill say a prayer for you and him


We'd bury them in food jackets ,blankies,clothes
NYC still has a giant winter jacket drive for the homeless every year ...doing it for decades
Forget all the advocates on the street when the temp drops really low the cops and advocates will get em off the street so they dont freeze to death ....from global warming

You would do well to read post # 36. I got your number. And you are stupid enough to call me a progressive or nazi? Again, I got your number. See post # 42. If there is a progressive nazi on this thread, it would be you - the guy giving rim jobs to National Socialists.

Those facts really caught you off guard, didn't they? Trump played you.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Early on in this thread, a poster wanted to know what a wallist is. That is the primary focus of this OP. Since folks want to voice their opinion without reading the thread, all you can do is keep repeating the same points.

COMMON TRAITS OF A WALLIST

1) They worship the idea of a wall around America to the exclusion of any other solution

2) If you fail to chant the mantra that America needs a wall, they get their tighty whiteys in a bunch and start accusing you of being for "open borders"

3) Due to the their extremism, you cannot tell them that it is illegal - even unconstitutional to use the military to enforce domestic policies. Furthermore, they lose it when you show them that precedent was solidified in recent years when sheriffs began saying they would not enforce the Brady Bill nor any other scheme to force local and state police to enforce federal laws ESPECIALLY when they were aimed at negating constitutional Rights

4) Wallists defend every aspect of National Socialism while trying to use plausible deniability from association with those who develop the talking points for the wallist religion

5) NOBODY can be concerned with the issue without bowing down to the wall idea. If another path is offered, it is dismissed before it is explained. Wallists only want the wall and nothing else

6) Wallists put the wall above the Constitution, Liberty, God given unalienable Rights, and even common sense

7) Wallists will violate the Constitution, even to their own detriment if it gets a wall put up

8) Wallists are oblivious to the inherent consequences of their actions

9) Wallists have an intense hatred for their Constitution... ESPECIALLY the Right to private property, the Right to Liberty and the Right to civil disobedience toward unconstitutional acts

10) Wallists tend to be uneducated, unwilling to engage in civil discourse, prone to make idiotic allegations and stupid assumptions without having enough common sense to ask questions. Or, as a wise man once said, Better to put brain in motion before putting mouth in action.

That's an overview of a wallist.

 

[Picaro]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

I had a similar criticism leveled at me earlier. I'm modifying it to fit you since you are too stupid to read the thread:

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it. He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

He promised you a wall and then said Mexico would pay for it. Then he threatened to take it from the military and Socialist Security. Now he says he will charge tariffs... which will be passed on to you. And you get a bigger paycheck which is then offset by a rise in prices so the Mexicans will have the money to give you in the first place. His ONLY other alternative is to use ideas I put forth more than a decade ago.

You are a lying son of a *****. THAT is one thing I'm proving. I pay my help far more than what I made (inflation figured into the equation) when I was in their position. I give chances to people your dumb asslocked out of the job market with that crap about National ID / REAL ID Act - E-Verify which disenfranchised an entire generation of your fellow Americans. The only ******* thing you've done with your life is post 100,000 plus posts on discussions boards and made some Internet buddies that wouldn't throw a cup of cold water on you if you were burning in Hell fire.

I've created opportunities and been of service to poor American peoplethat cannot afford the high wages you want for sitting on your ass arguing on the Internet and then thinking you're worth the big bucks for doing entry level work that a third worlder could do. I specialize in helping the poor to be able to afford a house, get a job opportunity that they otherwise would not get. Other than this popularity contest you're engaged in, what have you done?

Right now, at this moment, I have a 96 year old woman living in my house because she is almost blind and her relatives don't give a shit about her. I don't make a dime off it... fact is, it's costing me money. The irony is, she hates it here, but where she was staying would be closed by the county as uninhabitable if they went there. I have a couple of kids that got out of dysfunctional homes that depend on me to help get them get a job and one guy that is making 2 grand a week a few years after I helped him after his parents kicked him out of the house and he was living in a Jeep. The only thing you want to do is worship a fat ass rich white boy that hired undocumented workers before he ran for president, kept them on after his election, and will work them AFTER he leaves office. You know it and so do I.

This week IBM lays off a thousand people and your demigod is trying to give the Saudis contracts to build bombs for the United States:

U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal

What I'm accomplishing here is to expose stupidity and it will remain as a record that what we said was known years before you were willing to admit that you had the choice put before you and failed to listen to sound counsel. As for the Mexicans and those south of the border, since it is people who think like you that do most of the mass shootings, I'd be much obliged if you'd point those assholes south of the border and help save a few American lives. Dylan Roof was one of yours. So, don't try to preach to me about how much you care about Americans.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business. They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes. Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

 

[pismoe]

I don't know anyone that supported tor supports the TRUMP because they thought he was a 'rino republican ' or your or / and the 'bush familias' style of ' conservative' Porter ,

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I don't know anyone that supported tor supports the TRUMP because they thought he was a 'rino republican ' or your or / and the 'bush familias' style of ' conservative' Porter ,

I don't have a "style" of conservative pismoe. Remember this post from early in the conversation?

You can always tell a wallist by the stupid remarks they make. Ultimately, they all want laws enforced, but the average wallist is, themselves, a criminal.

I want you to take a look at these two links and ask yourself how did the right end up on the left of this issue?







What happened? What changed? BOTH sides said there was an issue, but what happened that made the right champion the left's solutions? And it became a religion when the right would not allow there to be any other options on the table. The wallist solutions are the only ones... otherwise you are "against" the wallists. {end of previous posting}

Today, through Hegelian Dialectics, you have bought into socialist solutions. They are not going to work; most of Trump's efforts are being shot down in the courts; future generations will have no options on the table as stupid people like you are taking away their ability to resist unconstitutional acts. All you're doing is pushing Bill Clinton's agenda and using talking points made famous by National Socialists.

You don't have the right solution and you don't have a monopoly on understanding the real problem. Insofar as judging me, to date, not one, single, solitary, mother ****** that spews the National Socialist bullshit like you do has had the common courtesy to ASK ME WHERE I STAND. That is because I don't have a side; I'm not spewing shit from the left, right, conservative, liberal, Democrat or Republican. That's why nobody has anything to say about me save of the wallists that I am successfully exposing. See post # 36 if you have forgotten. We've done this song and dance before.

 

[pismoe]

i didn't look at the links , i just don't like 'bush familia' and clinton is as bad if not worse . Course i think that 'old man bush' considers 'clinton' to be a son and 'gwb' consider 'clintoon' to be a 'Brother from another mother' . And 'bush' was is considered to be 'conservative' . I prefer the TRUMP and his policies so far Porter .

 

[Porter Rockwell]

i didn't look at the links , i just don't like 'bush familia' and clinton is as bad if not worse . Course i think that 'old man bush' considers 'clinton' to be a son and 'gwb' consider 'clintoon' to be a 'Brother from another mother' . And 'bush' was is considered to be 'conservative' . I prefer the TRUMP and his policies so far Porter .

You have an equal Right to ignore your education, build your opinions on abject stupidity, and post shit about me that is neither accurate or true.

The ONLY thing that accomplishes is to give substantial credibility to my thread.

"He that answers a matter before he hears it, it is folly and shame to him" Proverbs 18: 13

 

[pismoe]

but the 'bush' 'familia' , all of them are prime 'republicans' pointed out to be 'conservatives' and theycertainly aren't conservative by my understanding Porter . And i include 'reagan' as well as 'old man' bush as being liberal and not 'conservative' as well as the entire 'bush' family . Remember the 'reagan - bush' amnesty of 1986. Remember 'jebito bush' and his entire 'mex' familia Porter .

 

[Porter Rockwell]

but the 'bush' 'familia' , all of them are prime 'republicans' pointed out to be 'conservatives' and theycertainly aren't conservative by my understanding Porter . And i include 'reagan' as well as 'old man' bush as being liberal and not 'conservative' as well as the entire 'bush' family . Remember the 'reagan - bush' amnesty of 1986. Remember 'jebito bush' and his entire 'mex' familia Porter .

pismoe,

I don't know where you're coming from. For the record:

When Reagan was nominated, there were so few people in my area that actually belonged to the Republican Party as party officers that the locals wanted me to be an elector for Reagan. I passed on that rare opportunity as I could not support Reagan due to his anti-gun control stance. I did not like the Bush presidents... especially that POS elder one that took the NRA money and then stabbed them in the back like Reagan did.

Due to the senior Bush, I had to part company with the two party system. NEITHER side values nor understands the Constitution. The Democrats know the Constitution, but they want to take a giant dump on it.

When it came to immigration, the Republicans had a long standing policy. Then, after 9/ 11, they switched sides with the Democrats... or so we're led to believe. On the surface it looks like the issue is about immigration. Nothing could be further from the truth and Donald Trump along with Chucky Schumer and Nancy Pelosi remind me of professional wrestlers on tv.

Trump knows damn well that the wall cannot be built. As I stated earlier, Obama had his agenda passed in just over a year after he got into office. Trump couldn't convince a Republican House and now he's lost that. He's ruling via Executive fiat, turning this country into a dictatorship. It sounds all great for you right now, but when the Democrats take office and do the same things to you that you want Trump to do to Democrats, then you will understand what this is really all about. America is a Republic, not a National Socialist - Democrat Socialist dictatorship as both parties are treating it. You have an immigration problem, but two wrongs don't make a right. If you don't come up with a better solution, you will ultimately lose. It's that simple.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

The following link is a continuation of post # 42

White nationalist group interrupts Detroit pride event, members appear to urinate on Israeli flag

Some wallists have tried to convince me that these guys have little influence despite they are descended from the original build the wall religionists I call wallists.

Again, acknowledging that a problem with foreigners exists should not require one to buy into current theology. There ARE better solutions.

 

[Picaro]

I gather from the last few posts some criminal employer is whining about Trump doing something about criminal illegal aliens, as if we should feel their pain or something. If they're just so productive n stuff, just move your own ass down there and set up shop, scumbag.

If a man driving down the road makes an improper U Turn, do you from then on refer to him as an illegal driver?

If you want to gather anything from this conversation, why not read the thread? It would make the thread much shorter and keep us from having to make the same, repetitive answers. Furthermore, being a keyboard commando and calling people names when you're so stupid that you didn't read the thread only proves the point I made in post # 36. Feel free to refer to it. I think I have your number.

Just for shits and giggles:

Employers own the jobs they create. They are free, constitutionally, to give the job to whomever they choose as one of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the Right to own private property. The fact that government disagrees only shows that you are living under an illegal / unconstitutional / de facto government That is a concept the wallists have tried to undermine since they grabbed national headlines back in 2003.

I have a ministry and my work consists of helping disenfranchised Americans get a second chance; it is a second chance that the wallists denied many people in the wallists war against little brown people from south of the border. The wallists views on private property, due process, the Right to privacy, and WHO the Constitution protects run 180 degrees opposite of what the founders intended. Adding insult to injury, if you fit that category in post #36, you are probably a socialist in a MAGA hat OR more accurately a useful idiot as the communists called them.

Of course you have shit for a real argument, which is you're a whiney narcissist scumbag with no principles other than stuffing your own pockets and to hell with the costs to others when you no longer feel like paying your criminal illegals and dump them, as your ilk usually do. Your imaginary right to unlimited cheap labor isn't a real one, just one you dreamed up for yourself. You and your fellow labor racketeering types need to be deported right along with your criminal employees, and with nothing to boot, not even clothes. That way you can really show us all the 'self made' loon crap for real instead of just sniveling as if you did it all before.

I had a similar criticism leveled at me earlier. I'm modifying it to fit you since you are too stupid to read the thread:

IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.

What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it. He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.

He promised you a wall and then said Mexico would pay for it. Then he threatened to take it from the military and Socialist Security. Now he says he will charge tariffs... which will be passed on to you. And you get a bigger paycheck which is then offset by a rise in prices so the Mexicans will have the money to give you in the first place. His ONLY other alternative is to use ideas I put forth more than a decade ago.

You are a lying son of a *****. THAT is one thing I'm proving. I pay my help far more than what I made (inflation figured into the equation) when I was in their position. I give chances to people your dumb asslocked out of the job market with that crap about National ID / REAL ID Act - E-Verify which disenfranchised an entire generation of your fellow Americans. The only ******* thing you've done with your life is post 100,000 plus posts on discussions boards and made some Internet buddies that wouldn't throw a cup of cold water on you if you were burning in Hell fire.

I've created opportunities and been of service to poor American peoplethat cannot afford the high wages you want for sitting on your ass arguing on the Internet and then thinking you're worth the big bucks for doing entry level work that a third worlder could do. I specialize in helping the poor to be able to afford a house, get a job opportunity that they otherwise would not get. Other than this popularity contest you're engaged in, what have you done?

Right now, at this moment, I have a 96 year old woman living in my house because she is almost blind and her relatives don't give a shit about her. I don't make a dime off it... fact is, it's costing me money. The irony is, she hates it here, but where she was staying would be closed by the county as uninhabitable if they went there. I have a couple of kids that got out of dysfunctional homes that depend on me to help get them get a job and one guy that is making 2 grand a week a few years after I helped him after his parents kicked him out of the house and he was living in a Jeep. The only thing you want to do is worship a fat ass rich white boy that hired undocumented workers before he ran for president, kept them on after his election, and will work them AFTER he leaves office. You know it and so do I.

This week IBM lays off a thousand people and your demigod is trying to give the Saudis contracts to build bombs for the United States:

U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal

What I'm accomplishing here is to expose stupidity and it will remain as a record that what we said was known years before you were willing to admit that you had the choice put before you and failed to listen to sound counsel. As for the Mexicans and those south of the border, since it is people who think like you that do most of the mass shootings, I'd be much obliged if you'd point those assholes south of the border and help save a few American lives. Dylan Roof was one of yours. So, don't try to preach to me about how much you care about Americans.

Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business. They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes. Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.

Some self-admitted criminal sociopath has written some screed, as if he had any credibility. lol what a pathetic gimp.

 

[Picaro]

I don't know anyone that supported tor supports the TRUMP because they thought he was a 'rino republican ' or your or / and the 'bush familias' style of ' conservative' Porter ,

Porter is just another sociopath and narcissist; that's why he has to post a lot of rubbish, attempting to post enough bullshit so he can fake having real points.