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Naw, not childlike at all. Congrats on the improvement on your vocabulary.
I believe you missed the question, as you have missed so much in life, but to reprise, are you going to claim that Lincoln and FDR are fascists?
The bogus story used by the left that our actions in Abu Ghraib served as recruitment for Al Qaeda is no more than a talking point. Your article is dated 2008.
In 2005, "Al-Qaeda leaders have proclaimed Iraq a major front in their global terrorist campaign. This was made clear in a July 9, 2005, letter from Osama bin LadenÂ’s chief lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to Abu Musab Zarqawi, who was then leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq."
Iraq Is a Strategic Battleground in the War Against Terrorism
There is no proof that a "the major recruiting tool " was even necessary.
"A child is unaware of consequences." Exactly my point with respect to your inability to see the efficacy of enhanced interrogation. Our challenge is to prevent the evil ones from killing even one more of our citizens. Can't see that, huh?
That's why your left-wing heros like Church and Torricelli prevented our intell community from recruiting spys. "A child is unaware of consequences."
And, of course, the winner in the category of unintentional humor is ... you. Read this part of your quote carefully, not the method you learned in government schools, but carefully:
"It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, ..."
At least half... of a number that will never be known.????
You must be a Crypto-Conservative, because you make liberals look so bad. It's really not fair. Fun, but not fair.
The "bogus" story you refer to is prefaced: AN INTERROGATOR SPEAKS, written by an interrogator that said in an interview:
"I listened time and time again to foreign fighters, and Sunni Iraqis, state that the number one reason they had decided to pick up arms and join Al Qaeda was the abuses at Abu Ghraib and the authorized torture and abuse at Guantánamo Bay. My team of interrogators knew that we would become Al Qaeda’s best recruiters if we resorted to torture. Torture is counterproductive to keeping America safe and it doesn’t matter if we do it or if we pass it off to another government. The result is the same. And morally, I believe, there is an even stronger argument. Torture is simply incompatible with American principles. George Washington and Abraham Lincoln both forbade their troops from torturing prisoners of war. They realized, as the recent bipartisan Senate report echoes, that this is about who we are. We cannot become our enemy in trying to defeat him.
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/12/hbc-90004036
Our challenge is to prevent the evil ones from killing even one more of our citizens. Can't see that, huh?
Even one of our citizens huh?
It's funny you mentioned Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who prefaced his beheading of American Nicholas Berg with these words: “we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in
Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins...slaughtered in this way.”
Thankfully Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is dead...guess WHO secured the information that allowed the military to pinpoint al ZarqawiÂ’s whereabouts and kill him?
BTW, I see you dropped French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau like a hot potato...
At least half... of a number that will never be known.????
You only required
even one so you're excused for forgetting what you just said a few paragraphs earlier.
I don't believe Lincoln or FDR were fascists...but fear can make even intelligent liberals make rash decisions...on rare occasions. BTW, In 1988, Congress passed and President Ronald Reagan signed legislation which apologized for the internment on behalf of the U.S. government. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership". About $1.6 billion in reparations were later disbursed by the U.S. government to surviving internees and their heirs.
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You're not doing very well, I think you need to go back to the drawing board.
Did you note that the vast majority of the Harper's quote is conjecture, opinion?
Opinion.
And the major portion of your defense is quotes, directly or indirectly, from terrorists.
I hear an echo: ". Liberals, it seems, are unable to recognize evil, and therefore are psychologically unable to deal with it.We see this in our left-leaning friends ability to identify with the victimizer, but not the victim. We see it in the consoling of the drug abusing, law breaking criminal, but detachment from the recipient of their criminality."
And here you are, confident in your belief of the veracity of our enemies.
"Even one of our citizens.' What's the problem?
You know, the only reason that I succumb to answering any of your posts is that I so enjoy re-reading the parts that I post. So much would be wasted effort if I were writing for your edification, since you seem so, what, uneducable. Posting for/to you is double work, since I must then explain it to you.
For example, "I see you dropped French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau like a hot potato..."
The point of the quote, which, of course, was beyond your comprehension, was that Wilson didn't understand the nature of men anymore than you do.
Again, borrow a library card and see if you can get through Morris' "The Naked Ape." Enlightening.
So you favor the points I made re: Lincoln and FDR, yet state "......but fear can make even intelligent liberals make rash decisions..."
Consider the deficits in your logic, as the fact that you endorse their intelligence, and yet counter your statement by positing that they make rash decisions. You should work on your ability to communicate content.
And, of course, if you understood why I mentioned FDR and the Japanese, which was an attempt to protect the nation, you wouldn't have felt it necessary to state how we made amends. You see, the point is that we protect the nation, and then return to the more civil ways of life. I tire of having to explain everything to you.
"think you need to go back to the drawing board..." Did you think that writng an essay requires a drawing board? Are comic books the basis of your education, such as it is? Do you know what a mixed metaphor is? Government schooling again.
And just one note on your use of language: As William Faulkner said of Ernest Hemingway, "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary."
You have much work to do.
