Kerry Promises To Help Illegal Aliens

[Big D]

From New Mexico, Kerry told the Hispanic group that his immigration program would ``ensure that good people who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes have a path to equal citizenship. ... It will extend English and civics classes so these folks can assume the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.''

He also touched on ``values,'' an issue that both the Democratic and Republican campaigns are claiming as their own.

``Building a stronger America means protecting our values at home,'' Kerry said. ``In the last three years, Hispanic-American unemployment has soared more than 30 percent (and) 1.4 million Hispanic-Americans are out of work.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4296811,00.html

 

[007]

So now kerry is whoring HIMSELF out to the wetbacks for votes. These people know no shame.

 

[insein]

:sigh:

Since when do Illegals pay taxes? THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING PROBLEM!!! They come in, take jobs at lower wages, under the table (No Taxes). In some states the receieve welfare programs to pay for food and clothes (no taxes). Then they purchase Section 8 houses (no taxes). So bascially they pay no taxes and we pay 10 times as many taxes.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by insein
:sigh:

Since when do Illegals pay taxes? THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING PROBLEM!!! They come in, take jobs at lower wages, under the table (No Taxes). In some states the receieve welfare programs to pay for food and clothes (no taxes). Then they purchase Section 8 houses (no taxes). So bascially they pay no taxes and we pay 10 times as many taxes.

The argument is that they DO pay taxes.

They pay sales taxes.

They pay gasoline taxes.

They pay income taxes.

Yup, you read that right. They PAY INCOME TAXES.

How?

STOLEN SS NUMBERS.

Can you say "identity theft"?

Congrats to Big-D for putting such a negative personality trait to productive use.

 

[krisy]

Originally posted by NewGuy
The argument is that they DO pay taxes.

They pay sales taxes.

They pay gasoline taxes.

They pay income taxes.

Yup, you read that right. They PAY INCOME TAXES.

How?

STOLEN SS NUMBERS.

Can you say "identity theft"?

Congrats to Big-D for putting such a negative personality trait to productive use.

That is ridiculous!!! And that damn Fox has that crappy ass attitude toward us like we owe Mexico something. My husband is a supervisor for a drywall co. and a lot of them work in drywall in big groups and are a danger to the "employer" because they can't follow OCEA rules.Hell, they can't even speak English!! One time,he told one of them to go put a hardhat on and he came back with a piece of of some kind of pvc pipe on his head. Some stray part. They were giving him fits-lmao!!!

 

[Trinity]

Originally posted by krisy
That is ridiculous!!! And that damn Fox has that crappy ass attitude toward us like we owe Mexico something. My husband is a supervisor for a drywall co. and a lot of them work in drywall in big groups and are a danger to the "employer" because they can't follow OCEA rules.Hell, they can't even speak English!! One time,he told one of them to go put a hardhat on and he came back with a piece of of some kind of pvc pipe on his head. Some stray part. They were giving him fits-lmao!!!

and knowing my brother he had about 6 diffrent kinds of fits!!!!

Rotflmao

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by NewGuy

Yup, you read that right. They PAY INCOME TAXES.

How?

STOLEN SS NUMBERS.

Can you say "identity theft"?

Congrats to Big-D for putting such a negative personality trait to productive use.

New Guy writes this like it is a good thing? You are right about one thing, illegal aliens are why today we have a huge "identity theft" problem.

Myths and lies of illegal immigration

Because the pro-illegal alien lobby has a bottomless pit of money and can hire PR people to spin (and fabricate) anything any way, there are an undue number of myths and lies that the public (and many politicians) has bought into. The FACTS are:

1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers - they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.

2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. It has the fifth richest economy in the world, and by sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?

3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.

5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents). The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that the average Mexican illegal alien costs U.S. taxpayers a whopping $55,000 each. Some bargain, eh?

6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.

7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.

8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?

So, before you believe the prevalent pack of lies perpetuated by the illegal alien lobby, which makes billions off this government-sanctioned criminal activity, ask yourself who's saying this garbage and look at what they have to gain. Whose side are you on, and what are YOU doing to save your state and country from this evil?

 

[007]

Originally posted by Big D
So, before you believe the prevalent pack of lies perpetuated by the illegal alien lobby, which makes billions off this government-sanctioned criminal activity, ask yourself who's saying this garbage and look at what they have to gain. Whose side are you on, and what are YOU doing to save your state and country from this evil?

 

[Captain_Steel]

Big D, that was one hell of a post about the myths and lies of illegal immigration!! Bravo, Bravo!!

Newguy wants to defend the pittance that illegals pay for in sales tax compared to the billions they take in social services, what a joke.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by Captain_Steel
Big D, that was one hell of a post about the myths and lies of illegal immigration!! Bravo, Bravo!!

Newguy wants to defend the pittance that illegals pay for in sales tax compared to the billions they take in social services, what a joke.

You should ask him to source it though. He didnt write that. Even though its all very accurate.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by insein
You should ask him to source it though. He didnt write that. Even though its all very accurate.

http://www.pan2004.com/articles/art2004jan04.html

 

[insein]

Originally posted by Big D
http://www.pan2004.com/articles/art2004jan04.html

Thank you.

 

[William Joyce]

Originally posted
``Building a stronger America means protecting our values at home,'' Kerry said. ``In the last three years, Hispanic-American unemployment has soared more than 30 percent (and) 1.4 million Hispanic-Americans are out of work.

In other words, they aren't exactly doing the jobs nobody else wants to do. Unless befouling a once-clean, once-decent, once-fine country counts as a "job."

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Captain_Steel
Newguy wants to defend the pittance that illegals pay for in sales tax compared to the billions they take in social services, what a joke.

No, retard.

I clearly was AGAINST the issue of them working like this.

I even went so far as to point out the other side of the argument.

When you are old enough to enter the work force, you may be a valuable member of society with real opinions.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by Big D
From New Mexico, Kerry told the Hispanic group that his immigration program would ``ensure that good people who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes have a path to equal citizenship. ... It will extend English and civics classes so these folks can assume the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.''

He also touched on ``values,'' an issue that both the Democratic and Republican campaigns are claiming as their own.

``Building a stronger America means protecting our values at home,'' Kerry said. ``In the last three years, Hispanic-American unemployment has soared more than 30 percent (and) 1.4 million Hispanic-Americans are out of work.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4296811,00.html

Why not, Dubbyuh's already done so...Or have you forgotten already?

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
So now kerry is whoring HIMSELF out to the wetbacks for votes. These people know no shame.

Why not, Dubbyuh's already done so...Or have you forgotten already?

Dubbyuh will turn political tricks in any available alley or empty doorway like some $5.00 crack-whore.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
Why not, Dubbyuh's already done so...Or have you forgotten already?

Dubbyuh will turn political tricks in any available alley or empty doorway like some $5.00 crack-whore.

Bully you don't have to sell me on the fact that Bush is a sack of shit,but do you really believe Kerry will be any better?

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by Big D
Bully you don't have to sell me on the fact that Bush is a sack of shit,but do you really believe Kerry will be any better?

Richard Butler(Aryan Nations) for president and Matt Hale(Church Of The Creator) for vice president!

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by OCA
Richard Butler(Aryan Nations) for president and Matt Hale(Church Of The Creator) for vice president!

Anything would be better then that sack of shit Bush.

 

[007]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
Why not, Dubbyuh's already done so...Or have you forgotten already?

I know he has. It's my number one bitch with him. I've said that more than once here.

But kerry is worse than Bush, in all other respects. I swear this love fest between him and his little pretty boy v.p. choice, the way the two hug on each other is sickening to watch. They should get a room, fuck each other in the ass and get it over with. Ta' hell with their wives... they have each other now.

Sickening bastards.