Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" WOW! Why?

[Baz Ares]

Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" during China trip: report Axios: Kelly, Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese officials over nuclear 'football'

White House chief of staff John Kelly and a Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese security officials over the U.S. nuclear "football" during a trip to China in November, Axios reported Sunday.

I think, and FFS Just WOW! More than a football case is needed to use it.
Even if you torture the Great Douche for a code if IT can remember it.
REALLY, ANYTIME THE GREAT DOUCHE GOES DOWN OR IS CAPTURED.
THE NUKE FOOTBALL CASE IS USELESS.
I recall no other scuffles with any other REAL American POTUS.
WOW!? Is this another MAGA moment here?

 

[depotoo]

Even if there were, they wouldn’t have been reported on. This administration sneezes we hear about had badly they handled it.

Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" during China trip: report Axios: Kelly, Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese officials over nuclear 'football'

I think, and WOW.. More than a football case is needed to use it.
Even if you torture the Great Douche for a code if IT can remember it.
I recall no other scuffles with any other real American POTUS.

 

[Baz Ares]

Even if there were, they wouldn’t have been reported on. This administration sneezes we hear about had badly they handled it.

Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" during China trip: report Axios: Kelly, Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese officials over nuclear 'football'

I think, and WOW.. More than a football case is needed to use it.
Even if you torture the Great Douche for a code if IT can remember it.
I recall no other scuffles with any other real American POTUS.

I would think it was a planning issue FAILURE by team Douche, as not knowing how
head of state meetings work.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This administration sneezes we hear about had badly they handled it.

Because they are the type of administration that fucks up the handling of a sneeze.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"Kelly then came over and told the officials to continue walking in, after which a Chinese security official grabbed at Kelly, and the chief of staff pushed him off, according to Axios. A Secret Service agent then tackled the Chinese security official, the publication reported."

That's fine, but Kelly should have decked him. Would have made a great pic.

 

[toobfreak]

Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" during China trip: report Axios: Kelly, Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese officials over nuclear 'football'

White House chief of staff John Kelly and a Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese security officials over the U.S. nuclear "football" during a trip to China in November, Axios reported Sunday.

I think, and FFS Just WOW! More than a football case is needed to use it.
Even if you torture the Great Douche for a code if IT can remember it.
REALLY, ANYTIME THE GREAT DOUCHE GOES DOWN OR IS CAPTURED.
THE NUKE FOOTBALL CASE IS USELESS.
I recall no other scuffles with any other REAL American POTUS.
WOW!? Is this another MAGA moment here?

LOOK OUT! America is almost tripped up and soon could be damaged and when that day comes, you can sit there with glee delighting that the United States has finally fallen, your wet dream. Your favorite scenario: we get hit by a missile strike or EMP killing and disrupting millions! Then you can sit there with a hard on delighting that now you have a new argument to use against the opposing party in the hopes that yours will regain power. All those dead people? Acceptable loses in your political struggle and goals.

 

[Baz Ares]

"Kelly then came over and told the officials to continue walking in, after which a Chinese security official grabbed at Kelly, and the chief of staff pushed him off, according to Axios. A Secret Service agent then tackled the Chinese security official, the publication reported."

That's fine, but Kelly should have decked him. Would have made a great pic.

Kelly just another General traitor, serving the Great Douche.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Kelly, Secret Service scuffled with Chinese security over "nuclear football" during China trip: report Axios: Kelly, Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese officials over nuclear 'football'

White House chief of staff John Kelly and a Secret Service agent scuffled with Chinese security officials over the U.S. nuclear "football" during a trip to China in November, Axios reported Sunday.

I think, and FFS Just WOW! More than a football case is needed to use it.
Even if you torture the Great Douche for a code if IT can remember it.
REALLY, ANYTIME THE GREAT DOUCHE GOES DOWN OR IS CAPTURED.
THE NUKE FOOTBALL CASE IS USELESS.
I recall no other scuffles with any other REAL American POTUS.
WOW!? Is this another MAGA moment here?

LOOK OUT! America is almost tripped up and soon could be damaged and when that day comes, you can sit there with glee delighting that the United States has finally fallen, your wet dream. Your favorite scenario: we get hit by a missile strike or EMP killing and disrupting millions!

In such an event our submarines would destroy the planet.

The smart ones know it, too.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"Kelly then came over and told the officials to continue walking in, after which a Chinese security official grabbed at Kelly, and the chief of staff pushed him off, according to Axios. A Secret Service agent then tackled the Chinese security official, the publication reported."

That's fine, but Kelly should have decked him. Would have made a great pic.

Kelly just another General traitor, serving the Great Douche.

What does that make you?

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

The Chinese are notoriously indifferent to international delegations. Obama's delegation had issues in 2016.

Chinese Officials, White House Staff Screaming on Tarmac Mar Obama's G-20 Arrival | Breitbart

 

[JGalt]

Read the article:

"At no point did the Chinese have the nuclear football in their possession or even touch the briefcase."

This was quite different from the time Bill Clinton completely lost the launch codes for months.

New book reveals Bill Clinton lost secret nuclear launch codes for MONTHS | Daily Mail Online

 

[usmbguest5318]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

 

[usmbguest5318]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah. Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid. That is the nature of self-defense.

What does that have to do with what actually happened regarding the man carrying the "football" and/or the "football" itself? Did you read the linked article in the OP? If you did, you'd know the answer is "nothing."

EDIT:

From the article:

The aide carrying the briefcase was blocked from entering the hall, and another official quickly told Kelly....Kelly then came over and told the officials to continue walking in, after which a Chinese security official grabbed at Kelly.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

Hah...look, a badass!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah. Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid. That is the nature of self-defense.

What does that have to do with what actually happened regarding the man carrying the "football" and/or the "football" itself? Did you read the linked article in the OP? If you did, you'd know the answer is "nothing."

Too thick.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

Hah...look, a badass!

Not at all. Merely mindful.

 

[usmbguest5318]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

Hah...look, a badass!

Off-topic:

He can write whatever "badass" remarks he wants; however, the one's he wrote have nothing to do with what I remarked upon. I might have had something to say in response to his braggadocious bravado were it to have directly addressed my remarks, but it didn't.​

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

Hah...look, a badass!

Off-topic:

He can write whatever "badass" remarks he wants; however, the one's he wrote have nothing to do with what I remarked upon. I might have had something to say in response to his braggadocious bravado were it to have directly addressed my remarks, but it didn't.​

You live in a different world than do I. There are certain to be communication glitches.

My response was not braggadocio, nor coarse badinage. Simply an analogy to the Chinese circumstance posted.

 

[usmbguest5318]

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so.

I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures.

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequences?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so. I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history. Sure as I know that -- hell, inasmuch as there is even a question about the nature and extent of chaos, inexperience and ineptitude of the Trump Administration -- so too do foreign governments that'd seek to gain whatever edge or intelligence they can about our national security apparatus and procedures. Whatever be the actuality of what was afoot, it's nothing to treat with the insouciance with with the OP-er has cast and considered it.

What-evah.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

That is the nature of self-defense.

Hah...look, a badass!

Off-topic:

He can write whatever "badass" remarks he wants; however, the one's he wrote have nothing to do with what I remarked upon. I might have had something to say in response to his braggadocious bravado were it to have directly addressed my remarks, but it didn't.​

You live in a different world than do I. There are certain to be communication glitches.

My response was not braggadocio, nor coarse badinage. Simply an analogy to the Chinese circumstance posted.

You live in a different world than do I.

"The world" in which you and/or I live has nothing to do with what happened.

From the article:

The aide carrying the briefcase was blocked from entering the hall, and another official quickly told Kelly...Kelly then came over and told the officials to continue walking in, after which a Chinese security official grabbed at Kelly.

There are certain to be communication glitches.

I don't know about the certainty of the occurrence of communication "glitches" pertaining to the guy carrying the "football" being among the individuals who must and will accompany the POTUS anywhere and everywhere, but I do know that communication mistakes, some innocuous and some not, happen.

I know that I haven't heard of such an act having before happened, and I do know that the Trump Administration is about the most poorly organized one in modern history.

As I initially wrote:

• Might there have been the risk that the "football," which is a box of compute electronics and a wireless transmitter could somehow have been compromised?
• Might the whole thing have been a stunt to test or observe our procedures when the "football" and its carrier's progress is impeded?
• Might it have been nothing of consequence?

I don't know; all of those are possibly so.

The final bullet accounts for the "innocuous communication error" scenario, along with whatever other ostensibly innocent sequences of events might have occurred at that meeting with the Chinese.

While it's plausible that the whole thing was innocuous, it's also plausible that there was subterfuge in play. Because both scenarios are plausible, and because the "football" is an integral part of U.S. national security, and because I don't know any details beyond what has been reported in the article linked in the OP, I'm not about to conclude glibly that it was a "nothingburger." No mature, sagacious or responsible person would.

Simply an analogy to the Chinese circumstance posted.

And yet that analogy, offered in response to my remarks, is entirely non sequitur.

Reach for my gun, and you'll find a knife blade in your carotid.

If that's the thought you care to share, fine, but don't post it in response to my comments when it doesn't pertain to the nature (tacit or explicit) of my remarks.

• My remarks had only to do with
  • The guy carrying the "football" --> He didn't hit or tussle with anyone
  • The "football" itself --> The linked article does not indicate that anyone reached for it.
  • The disorder in the Trump Administration --> Your comment doesn't have anything to do with that.

My response was not braggadocio, nor coarse badinage.

You just keep thinking that....

...his braggadocious bravado ...

BTW, what made "badinage" (fun word, BTW) be the word you chose to replace "bravado?" They don't mean anything remotely similar.

• Definition of BRAVADO
  
• Definition of BADINAGE