Kamalla Harris wants Medicare for all

[Dragonlady]

I was fresh out of college. My first professional gig. The owners, all Republicans. They're a big reason I'm pro labor, liberal and Democrat. Companies renigging on promises they make to sales people. Taking big accounts that I landed and making them "house" accounts and not paying me my 15%. Assholes. That's okay they lead miserable lives. They got money but if you want to find the owner, it won't be at home with his family. He's at the strip club divorced. How sad huh? He's like Trump. Raw dogging whores.

Anyways, Pete and I never made more money that we did at this place. Pete got the city of Detroit to buy from him. That city is SHADY! To do business in the city you have to grease palms. Anyways, I don't want to ramble. I sold $600K a year. Making $90 in the 90's. I NEVER complained. Pete however made 3 times as much as I did and cried all the time about the taxes he had to pay. It's sad. It's sick. Someone who hits the lotto then complains about the taxes.

All city governments are SHADY. The worst corruption is all at the municipal level. That's because these people make so little money that they're easily corrupted. The first lawyer I ever worked for taught me that. He said you could always tell is a re-zoning application was "bought and paid for" because the City advertized it in the North York Mirror - a free paper put out monthly in
only the North York area of the city. Nobody reads the thing. It's a bird cage liner.

He said that the law requires the City to advertize these applications in a "newspaper having a general circulation in the area". Since the Mirror was delivered to every home in North York, it met the criteria, even if nobody read it. Nobody read it therefore nobody would object to the application.

Big money construction is the worst. Bribery and corruption at every level. Trump is telling the truth when he talks about all of the politicians he's bribed. Even builders I would otherwise consider honest businessmen, will reluctantly pay the bribes.

 

[Lisa558]

But........but.......but................it will be free.

No strings attached.

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Free = someone else pays the price

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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How many of those breakthroughs were from before the government took over the healthcare system?

Were the HIV drugs developed in BC, or somewhere else?

 

[AsherN]

You get a job. Or if you’re out for back surgery, you go in disability. Or you buy a catastrophic care plan.

Why should seniors who contributed to the system for 40 years now have to see a reduction in the quality of their care just when they need it the most so that other younger people, capable of earning, get stuff for free?

Because there are times when it's not easy to get a job. At least here, I don't have to worry if my job provides adequate insurance. Or if I need medical care while un(der)employed.

I just had hernia surgery, cost me for the semi private room, picked up by my supplemental insurance. The medical part was all covered by the province. I've been hanging around the hernia subreddit. It's scary to see how many people there are putting off seeking medical attention because they can't afford it.

 

[Lisa558]

Because there are times when it's not easy to get a job. At least here, I don't have to worry if my job provides adequate insurance. Or if I need medical care while un(der)employed.

I just had hernia surgery, cost me for the semi private room, picked up by my supplemental insurance. The medical part was all covered by the province. I've been hanging around the hernia subreddit. It's scary to see how many people there are putting off seeking medical attention because they can't afford it.

But you’re just focusing on what would be ideal to provide people without considering the expense that would be borne by others for giving it to them. And that’s the limited view of libersls - focused just on what people “need” and ignoring what it costs others.

And what’s with this about “people put off medical attention because they can’t afford it”?! Are you ignoring Obamacare - which came at a BIG cost to me, doubling my premiums for a high-deductible plans, and with a limited network - so that other people could get a $30 a month plan?

So what’s the excuse? How can they not afford it when people with lower incomes get close to free health insurance plans? No excuse. The answer to people not having this is not to just get other people to pay for it. What about being responsible?

And btw, when Obamacare was being proposed in 2010 because “people can’t afford health insurance,” it was found that 15% of people without insurance earned $75,000 and more. And that was in 2010 dollars!

With low-cost Obamacare plans for lower-income people (and Medicaid for poor), there is NO excuse for “not being able to afford medical care” because there is NO excuse not to have health insurance.

 

[AsherN]

The cost is spread over everybody paying taxes. increase the risk pool.

No more worrying about seeking medical attention if you don't have insurance. No more having to change Dr. if you change insurance because your Drs are no longer "in network".

 

[Lisa558]

The cost is spread over everybody paying taxes. increase the risk pool.

No more worrying about seeking medical attention if you don't have insurance. No more having to change Dr. if you change insurance because your Drs are no longer "in network".

Makes it much harder for retirees, who donated into the system their entire life, to get the care they need at the age they need it the most.

You didn’t answer my question: with Obamacare giving away “free” health plans to lower-income (the expense borne by others) how do you claim that some people “just can’t afford medical care”? They can’t afford $30 a month?

 

[AsherN]

Makes it much harder for retirees, who donated into the system their entire life, to get the care they need at the age they need it the most.

You didn’t answer my question: with Obamacare giving away “free” health plans to lower-income (the expense borne by others) how do you claim that some people “just can’t afford medical care”? They can’t afford $30 a month?

For a lot of people, no, they can't afford $30/month.

It's easier here for retirees. We get free drugs as well.

 

[Lisa558]

For a lot of people, no, they can't afford $30/month.

It's easier here for retirees. We get free drugs as well.

Sorry, that excuse won’t fly. If they’re THAT poor, it’s as low as $15.

They can save that by skipping two drinks at the bar once a month. The welfare recipients I know - food stamps for a gaggle of kids - still manage to go to the bar three times a week and toss back a few.

 

[YoursTruly]

Kamalla Harris wants Medicare for all​

So does Trump.

 

[Independent thinker]

Today of course, she won't dare publicly say it, but we know how she really feels.

Reminds me of something Hillary Clinton said once during the 2016 primaries. Some of the people running against her wanted a minimum wage of $15 per hour and Hillary favored a minimum wage of $12 per hour, saying that anything more than that would be bad for small businesses. Then a journalist asked her that if she won and had a democratic House and Senate who sent a bill to her desk for a minimum wage of $15 per hour, would she sign it and Hillary said, "Sure". We all know what these people want and will do, despite the crap they spew.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Reminds me of something Hillary Clinton said once during the 2016 primaries. Some of the people running against her wanted a minimum wage of $15 per hour and Hillary favored a minimum wage of $12 per hour, saying that anything more than that would be bad for small businesses. Then a journalist asked her that if she won and had a democratic House and Senate who sent a bill to her desk for a minimum wage of $15 per hour, would she sign it and Hillary said, "Sure". We all know what these people want and will do, despite the crap they spew.

Yes we do.

That's why they always get the most votes.

We know they want to help Americans.

And Republicans want to help rich people and corporations.

Wow, welcome to square one of American politics. Enjoy.

 

[Independent thinker]

Yes we do.

That's why they always get the most votes.

We know they want to help Americans.

And Republicans want to help rich people and corporations.

Wow, welcome to square one of American politics. Enjoy.

They don't get the most votes. There are 50 individual elections and it means nothing if California and New York vote 100% democrat. The fact is, and you know it, at least 2/3 of the country is red, and that actually includes California and New York. We aren't going to let the big cities run the entire country.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They don't get the most votes.

Democrats consistently get the most votes.

That's why the orange pile of shit ran on universal healthcare

When you are up to facing reality, look me up.

 

[Lisa558]

Democrats consistently get the most votes.

That's why the orange pile of shit ran on universal healthcare

When you are up to facing reality, look me up.

Take out the illegals and the people on welfare (so they can keep getting other people’s money and don’t have to get a job), and compare how self-supporting, hard-working Americans vote - and it’s Republican.

 

[Independent thinker]

Democrats consistently get the most votes.

That's why the orange pile of shit ran on universal healthcare

When you are up to facing reality, look me up.

2/3 of the country is red. Therefore, 2/3 of the country is Republican.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

2/3 of the country is red.

A lie, of course. We count votes, not square miles.

 

[cnm]

How. do. We. Pay. For. It?

(Medicare is already almost broke.)

Like all the other countries. Are you incompetent?

 

[cnm]

But you’re just focusing on what would be ideal to provide people without considering the expense that would be borne by others for giving it to them.

Just like all the other developed nations do for less money.

 

[cnm]

Makes it much harder for retirees, who donated into the system their entire life, to get the care they need at the age they need it the most.

I'm glad you're not just thinking of yourself.