Kagen Must Be Stopped

[dilloduck]

lets see ... when a democrat is president republicans ***** about every nomination and when a republican is president hte democrats ***** about every nomination. 95% of the info put out is falsehoold by the opposing side and in the end the judge gets accepted anyway

True, but hey it makes for some good drama at the very least.

cept it always ends up the same way--we lose.

 

[Founder]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

If those are your only reasons it will only help to make Republicans look like obstructionists. Much like the Democrats looked when Bush nominated people. I certainly hope they... you, can come up with better reasons than simply, "we have to wait until the people speak." That simply is not good enough reason to postpone a nomination.

I know very little about the nominee so far, but your reasons for blocking her nomination are not sufficient as far as I am concerned.

Basically what I am saying is that I hope you have got more than you presented in the OP as grounds for blocking the nomination. Because if you don't, it will just look like more whining from the Republicans and they will end up looking like bigger piles of shit than they already do.

Immie

Founder doesn't represent Republicans in fact I'm fairly certain (s)he is actually someone pretending to be a Christian nut to make them look bad but yet I'm not sure.

Poe's Law at work people.

NOTE: Inasmuch as you are clearly a Democrat operative, why should any sane Republican take any advice from you. Anything someone like you would suggest to Republicans would be the opposite of what they actually should do.

Who do you think you are fooling with your phony sympathy advice to us? No one in our Party would be dumb enough to pay any attention to what you say, much less follow any advice you would give. Can't you just knock off the phony offers of "help" to us Republicans and get on with spewing your Leftist Democrat poison all over the Internet?

 

[Vast LWC]

Founder doesn't represent Republicans in fact I'm fairly certain (s)he is actually someone pretending to be a Christian nut to make them look bad but yet I'm not sure.

Poe's Law at work people.

Hmm, you may be right. If she is a rightie, she's waaaay out there.

 

[Father Time]

If those are your only reasons it will only help to make Republicans look like obstructionists. Much like the Democrats looked when Bush nominated people. I certainly hope they... you, can come up with better reasons than simply, "we have to wait until the people speak." That simply is not good enough reason to postpone a nomination.

I know very little about the nominee so far, but your reasons for blocking her nomination are not sufficient as far as I am concerned.

Basically what I am saying is that I hope you have got more than you presented in the OP as grounds for blocking the nomination. Because if you don't, it will just look like more whining from the Republicans and they will end up looking like bigger piles of shit than they already do.

Immie

Founder doesn't represent Republicans in fact I'm fairly certain (s)he is actually someone pretending to be a Christian nut to make them look bad but yet I'm not sure.

Poe's Law at work people.

NOTE: Inasmuch as you are clearly a Democrat operative, why should any sane Republican take any advice from you.

I'm not a Democrat.

Anything someone like you would suggest to Republicans would be the opposite of what they actually should do.

Don't jump off a cliff then.

Who do you think you are fooling with your phony sympathy advice to us?

I wasn't even talking to you.

 

[Vast LWC]

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'nuff said

 

[kyzr]

I'm still trying to think what qualifications she has to be on the highest court in the country?! Its like if Palin wins in 2012 and nominates Ann Coulter to the USSC.

 

[Founder]

Do you know that one of the deadly sins is Pride, defined as a mere mortal suggesting they speak for God?

All mortals should speak for God if they think they have been inspired to do so. God speaks through human mouths that He has informed as to what to say. This excludes the devil's disciples such as any Democrat.

Do you know that one of God's commandments prohibited bearing false witness?

The Commandment, properly understood, is to not lie to, or about, another Believer. Heathens, such as Demonrats, can be, and should be, lied to, at will.

Do you know we live in a Constitutional Republic where each representative is elected to vote his or her conscience, and efforts to thwart the process by invoking devine authority demonstrates a disdain for the principles upon which the U.S. was founded (and usually suggests those who so act are mentally unstable)?

Demonrats typically want to invoke God, whom they hate, and Psychology, which the devil created, to try to demoralize and defeat Conservative Believer Republicans.

Do you understand, somewhere in the deep and self righteous confines of your brain, that OCD is treatable, and many members of the clergy, priesthood, etc. can treat you and provide theraphy within the parameters of your faith?

Using charges of mental illness to win political arguments is a bigoted slur against people who have real mental disabilities. It is typical Demonrat Fascist mentality.

Finally, do you know faith is fine, dandy and helpful for many, but when one takes faith and makes it into political dogma all debate ends, and necessarily leads to violations of other commandments?

All faith should be taken and made into political dogma and stuffed down the throats of the Demonrats. That is the way to honor and obey all the Commandments.

I Am Rubber, You Are Glue

You have to be an impersonator of a right wing nut, honestly there's so much laughable trash in here.

Your brain must be barely alive, if you can't think of a better response than this. Seemingly, you have no intellect, IMO.

 

[Father Time]

I Am Rubber, You Are Glue

You have to be an impersonator of a right wing nut, honestly there's so much laughable trash in here.

Your brain must be barely alive, if you can't think of a better response than this. Seemingly, you have no intellect, IMO.

This coming from the person who thinks psychology is from the devil but apparently psychiatry is just fine.

 

[Murf76]

The true test of Kagans regard of the Constitution was the fact she honored the decision of the Supreme Court in regards to military recruiting on campus.

The reason there are 9 justices in the Supreme Court is even the best constitutional scholars disagree on issues.

The interpretation of the constitution is not a black and white issue.

It's a bit less of a "test" when one considers that she didn't exactly have much choice. The Law school could've done without the money, but not many of the others, including the Medical school, could have afforded to give up the grants.

What's more, she did it with ill-grace, emailing students and faculty, "This action causes me deep distress," "I abhor the military's discriminatory recruitment policy." It is, she said, "a profound wrong -- a moral injustice of the first order."
Foes may target Kagan's stance on military recruitment at Harvard

Now, how is stirring up a bunch of crap on campus serving any good administrative function? How is that her JOB?
It sounds to me like she had an emotional little baby-fit because she didn't agree with the SCOTUS decision and lashed out.

In an e-mail to students and professors yesterday, Law School Dean Elena Kagan announced the decision to “provide Career Services assistance to the military, as the School does to non-discriminating employers.”

Until 2002, the school required all employers to sign a nondiscrimination pledge as a condition for access to the career placement office. The military, which excludes openly gay and lesbian individuals from its ranks under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, refuses to sign the pledge.

In her message yesterday, Kagan also encouraged students to demonstrate against the presence of recruiters. Her statement came one day after Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. ’76 ruled that “law schools remain free under the [Solomon Amendment] to express whatever views they may have on the military’s congressionally mandated employment policy, all the while retaining eligibility for federal funds.”

(emphasis mine)

(more...)
HLS To Abide by Court?s Decision | The Harvard Crimson

This woman has no judicial background. There's very little to draw conclusions from, and frankly words aren't good enough. It's a person's actions which tells you who they are. As a Constitutional scholar, and in consideration of the fact that the decision on Rumsfeld v FAIR was unanimous... I don't think it's too much to expect that she'd have seen that ruling coming. And I don't think it's too much to expect that she put her duties as administrator above her personal bias and behave with decorum when it did. Instead, she behaved as an activist.

 

[EriktheRed]

Have you guys ever considered the possibility that anyone on the other side of the aisle just might be right about something? No, I didn't think so. This reminds me of an old western movie where the good guys all wore white hats and bad guys all wore black hats. Those white hats just could never do anything wrong. The trouble today is that everyone thinks they are wearing a white hat.

Okay, first let me say that you would probably be surprised by which side of the aisle I agree with, more often than not.

Second, your OP offers nothing for you to be "right" about. Unless you consider the title, "Kagen must be stopped." It's spelled Kagan, by the way. Unfortunately I do not believe the title is enough to be "right" about. Why does she need to be stopped? Give us a reason.

Third, even if you were able to stop her appointment to the Court, Obama would still be President. Do you think he would choose someone more conservative than Kagan? I don't.

Reasonable questions, but it is helpful to consider EVERYONE as wearing either a White or Black hat. It keeps things neat, and minds ordered. Confusion is the cousin of deception, and deception is the mother of error.

The main reason to unite in keeping her from being approved in any way is it strengthens Republicans for the battles ahead, such as the elections and 2012 and a host of other tests. Discipline has been proven to raise your side's morale and lower the morale of the other side. Better be united in a poor cause than disunited in pursuit of a good one.

We can only win by being unalterably opposed to every enemy initiative. We are facing an implacable, united, AND EVIL, foe in the form of the Demonrat Party, and our best weapon is unity and resolve of the highest order. That is just one reason why NOT opposing her is treason to the nation, and disloyalty to the Republican Party. We need to sharpen the minds and stiffen the resolve of the American people if we are to have any chance to save the Republic, and discipline and radicalization is the best and proven way to that goal.

Sounds an awful lot like this guy:

Top Strategist Advises GOP To Prolong SCOTUS Fight To Block Obama Agenda | TPMDC

 

[Murf76]

Sounds an awful lot like this guy:

Top Strategist Advises GOP To Prolong SCOTUS Fight To Block Obama Agenda | TPMDC

Never heard of him. It doesn't look like he's even got a Wiki page, and yet they bill him as "Top Republican Strategist".

 

[Founder]

She's obviously a radical Socialist/Progressive. I couldn't support her. No Republican should either.

Stupid Evil Statement: "brand those as enemies to American society, who are enemies to equal and impartial liberty" There is no such thing as “equal” or “impartial” Liberty. All Liberty as well as all everything else is by nature, unequal, and partial.

 

[maineman]

I'm still trying to think what qualifications she has to be on the highest court in the country?! Its like if Palin wins in 2012 and nominates Ann Coulter to the USSC.

if Coulter had been dean of harvard law and also solicitor general, then yeah, your analogy might have a touch of validity.

I wonder if you would have complained when Ike nominated Warren or when Nixon nominated Rehnquist?

 

[Founder]

Divine Justice Amen

One thing is for sure. Every day Hussein stays in office the American people hate him and the Democrats more. Republicans don't have to DO anything to make this happen. It is a law of life.

How mad the GOOD PEOPLE get, and how quickly, is the only issue. Cut to the chase, the Democrat Party in all climes and times throughout history has always been the party of collective SCUM. They are, and always have been, bottom feeders. Thus, the better folks have hated them through all of history. It is just a question of when the "Folks" get mad enough to rise up and drive these trash into the ground like a wooden stake till you can't even find the head.

But being by nature parasitical weeds, Democrats, under one name or another, always keep sprouting up, where they need to be weeded out by a good gardener. We are in that gardening phase now. The trick is to help the good folks to get madder and madder, till they explode in some way and get out their pruning shears and other implements.

 

[traveler52]

Have you guys ever considered the possibility that anyone on the other side of the aisle just might be right about something?

Very seldom if ever have they been right, on anything.

 

[traveler52]

One thing is for sure. Every day Hussein

Saddam was hung a long time ago.

America is NOT a Christian Nation. Religion is mentioned Two (02) Times and Two (02) Times ONLY in the Constitution of The United States of America.

Article VI.
Clause III.

"....But no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

First Amendment.

"Congress shall no law respecting an establishment of religion , or prohibiting the free excerise thereof...."

There is no State Sponsered Religion or State Sponsered Church in the United States. Anyone making such claims is wrong. No person or group of persons can force, coerce, threaten or intimidate other persons to attend a church or religious event. No person can be removed from empolyment with the U.S. Government for their individual, personal and private choice of religion, religious practice. Nor can a person be removed from employement with the U.S. Government for choosing to NOT attend a church or engage in a certain religion or relgious practice.

No person can be denied a job with the Government based on religious preference. No person can be prevented from running for or being elected to public office based on religious preference or practice, or the lack thereof No person can denied appointment to a non-elective office (Up To and Including the United States Supreme Court) based of religious preference or practice or the lack thereof.

Nor can a person be denied an appointment with the United States Government based on their gender (male or female), their ethic orgin, race, or sexual prefence.

Being a Lesbian is not a crime.

Being a Lesbian is not a sin.

Being a Lesbian is not immoral.

Solicitor General Kagan has denied being a Lesbian, but even if it were true that she was, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is NOT the business of, nor should be the interest of the U.S. Government. Friends and assoicates of Solicitor General Kagan have denied she is a Lesbian. There is no proof, only Second and Third Hand Heresay. Just because a woman is over the age of 50 and not married does not mean she is a Lesbian, anymore than it means a man over the age of 50 and married is Hetrosexual.

Repugs and Cons are always talking about how they believe Capitol "S"(Small Capitol "G"(Government) If this is truly the case, then what business is it of Cons and Repugs who Ms. Kagan does or does not engage in sexual relations with.

Government (Small Government) does not interfer in the private lives of the Citizen. "The Right of The People To Be Secure In Their Persons, Houses, Papers, and Effects.....Shall Not Be Violated" (Fourth Amendment United States Constitution.).

Vague argument and heresay are not the truth, and right now that is all the right has.

 

[Rinata]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Oh, stop with the drama.

 

[kyzr]

I'm still trying to think what qualifications she has to be on the highest court in the country?! Its like if Palin wins in 2012 and nominates Ann Coulter to the USSC.

if Coulter had been dean of Harvard law and also solicitor general, then yeah, your analogy might have a touch of validity.

I wonder if you would have complained when Ike nominated Warren or when Nixon nominated Rehnquist?

I'm no Warren fan. His "commission" was a joke. Color him "political hack".

Rehnquist wasn't bad, he was a friend of mine......Kagan, she's no Rehnquist.

(Coulter is a lawyer, she's as qualified as Kagan based on your "no bench time required - no need to be a legal scholar either" analogy, and she's a conservative first, just like Kagan is a leftist first)

 

[maineman]

I'm still trying to think what qualifications she has to be on the highest court in the country?! Its like if Palin wins in 2012 and nominates Ann Coulter to the USSC.

if Coulter had been dean of Harvard law and also solicitor general, then yeah, your analogy might have a touch of validity.

I wonder if you would have complained when Ike nominated Warren or when Nixon nominated Rehnquist?

I'm no Warren fan. His "commission" was a joke. Color him "political hack".

Rehnquist wasn't bad, he was a friend of mine......Kagan, she's no Rehnquist.

(Coulter is a lawyer, she's as qualified as Kagan based on your "no bench time required - no need to be a legal scholar either" analogy, and she's a conservative first, just like Kagan is a leftist first)

I would suggest that Kagan, as dean of harvard law school, is twice the legal scholar than your pre-op transsexualy coultergiest is.

Warren was a powerful and influential CJ... so was Rehnquist.... yet, my guess is that you and your ilk did not complain when republican presidents nominated THOSE individuals to the SCOTUS with NO judicial experience. that is defined as HYPOCRISY. thanks for playing.

 

[Zona]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Good luck with that...lol

Here is what is going to happen, she will be the next supreme court judge and there is nothing you can do about it. Nener neener.