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Kabul Has Fallen - But Don't Blame Biden

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That assertion is 100% on the money. Trump DIDN'T have the guts to withdraw from Afghanistan. I think people told him how much of a cluster it would be and he pussied out.
So much for the buck stops here. :) Joe was just the seasoned old dog at the end of the shit line that decided to cut bait. But don't worry, I heap a healthy dose of disgust
on Obama for continuing the quagmire. But I reserve the most disdain for Bush and Cheney. I don't want to heWorthless Negro and ar anything from those two. They're the ones that decide to go in the first place.


Bullshit Moon Bat. He had an agreement to do that. Did CNN not tell your that or did you hear hear something different from Democratunderground.com? Did you miss the speeches where Trump said it was time to get out?

One of the excuses that Joe Dufus is using to blame the debacle on Trump is that he had to honor the agreement. Not withstanding the fact that he cancelled every other agreement that Trump made.

That shithead Worthless Negro and his clown sidekick Joe Dufus had eight years to call it quits in Afghanistan including after Bin laden was killed but instead they esclated the war. Do you not even know that?
 

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My statement is valid no matter what the article says. Democrats never take responsibility for their failures. Just look how The Worthless Negro spent his entire administration blaming his failures on Bush and Fox News. Joe Dufus is doing the same thing.
Whilst the bloated one blamed CNN and the MSM in general..perhaps you might sense a non-partisan theme?
 

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You are still confused Moon Bat.

Trump had a reasonable plan that would have minimized the chaos.

Joe Dufus went on vacation.
So what? Trump had a plan..big whoop...he did nothing..but bloviate. Action is where all is decided. Trump was a coward..about all his issues.
How do you begin to think that 'having a plan' buys anyone anything..in the real world?
A plan that, BTW, started after he left office..and he didn't have to own it! Typical Trump
 

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Whilst the bloated one blamed CNN and the MSM in general..perhaps you might sense a non-partisan theme?


All I heard out of the Worthless Negro's administration was how Fox News and Rush Limbaugh were poisoning America. Crooked Hillary felt she would have been 50 points ahead in the polls if it wasn't for Right Wing media and the Deplorables.

However, that has nothing to do with the fact that the Democrats have elevated blaming somebody else for their failures to an art form. Hell that asshole Joe Dufus spent most of his speech the other day blaming his failure in Afghanistan on Trump.

Left policies always fail to some degree or another. The Left is notorious for not taking responsibility for their failures. We see it all over the world.
 

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Bullshit Moon Bat. He had an agreement to do that. Did CNN not tell your that or did you hear hear something different from Democratunderground.com? Did you miss the speeches where Trump said it was time to get out?

One of the excuses that Joe Dufus is using to blame the debacle on Trump is that he had to honor the agreement. Not withstanding the fact that he cancelled every other agreement that Trump made.

That shithead Worthless Negro and his clown sidekick Joe Dufus had eight years to call it quits in Afghanistan including after Bin laden was killed but instead they esclated the war. Do you not even know that?
Oh for fuck sake, take your tongue out of Trump's ass. Your bias and partisanship aside, everyone is to blame for the Afghanistan bullshit. Trump made a lot of speeches. Just about all of them worthless.
And I gave Obama blame here too. Again, there are no clean hands here.
 

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Oh for fuck sake, take your tongue out of Trump's ass. Your bias and partisanship aside, everyone is to blame for the Afghanistan bullshit. Trump made a lot of speeches. Just about all of them worthless.
And I gave Obama blame here too. Again, there are no clean hands here.


You are really confused about this aren't you, Moon Bat?

Trump did everything reasonable to extract the US from interventionism. He ran on that platform and he did everything he could to facilitate non interventionists polices including an agreement to get out of Afghanistan.

You TDS afflicted assholes are too mentally disturbed with your hate for him because he wanted to make America great again to give him credit.

Pull your head out of your Moon Bat ass. You are just embarrassing yourself with this stupidity.

Joe Dufus has fucked it up big time. Trump would have got us out in the best possible way if the Democrats hadn't stole the election from the American people.

If you want to bitch then bitch about the Democrats that stole the election denying the American people of competent adult America first leadership.
 

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Joe Dufus pulled off a miracle, equipping the Taliban with modern weaponry: from night vision, IR devices, to helicopters.

Scan Eagle drones (probably now on its way to China and Russia for disassembly)
22 x Super Tucano ground attack aircraft w/ GBU-58 Paveway II laser guided missiles
6 x MI24 Hind helicopters
11 x MD350F helicopters
35 x UH60 Blackhawks
76 x MI17 Hip transport helicopters
12 x Pilatus PC-12 planes
4 x C-130 Hercules
5 x Cessna Combat Caravan
44 x T-55/62 main battle tanks
1013 x Humvees/others
775 x M114A1 155mm/other artillery pieces
The thing is….
Our sophisticated military equipment takes substantial training, maintenance and spare parts.

After a few months they will be useless to the Taliban.
They will probably just sell them
 

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You are really confused about this aren't you, Moon Bat?

Trump did everything reasonable to extract the US from interventionism. He ran on that platform and he did everything he could to facilitate non interventionists polices including an agreement to get out of Afghanistan.

You TDS afflicted assholes are too mentally disturbed with your hate for him because he wanted to make America great again to give him credit.

Pull your head out of your Moon Bat ass. You are just embarrassing yourself with this stupidity.

Joe Dufus has fucked it up big time. Trump would have got us out in the best possible way if the Democrats hadn't stole the election from the American people.

If you want to bitch then bitch about the Democrats that stole the election denying the American people of competent adult America first leadership.
Again, you're avoiding Trump's responsibility in the Afghanistan debacle because of your bias and partisanship. I don't care about the remainder of your spew. He lost. Move the fuck on.
 

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I asked Biden's critics, what did Biden do wrong? What would you have had Biden do differently?

Those questions appeared on multiple threads over the past few days, and many are directed at Biden's critics. No one has answered.

However, what is interesting is that Biden's critics are unable to explain what mistakes Biden made.

They simply say he screwed up. They don't say how. Some have choice words for Biden, but insulting characterizations are not an explanation of mistakes made.

Typical is the the criticism leveled at Biden by Sen. Robert Menendez, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “In implementing this flawed plan, I am disappointed that the Biden administration clearly did not accurately assess the implications of a rapid U.S. withdrawal."

In other words, Biden was unable to predict the future and what the enemy accomplished in a short amount of time.

Consider this, there is little doubt that there were intelligence reports concerning the lack of fight within the Afghan army. However, there has been no information on the evaluation of the Director of National Intelligence. There is no indication the DNI told President Biden with "High Confidence" that the Afghan army would fold at the first sign of trouble.

Then there is this. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley insisted at a Wednesday press conference that U.S. intelligence did not predict the collapse of the Afghan government in less than two weeks. “There was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse of this army in this government in 11 days,” he said, adding they were told the country could fall to the Taliban in weeks or even years.

A commander, in this case, the President of the United States, can only make decisions on the basis of the information available to him. He cannot predict the future. He cannot know the successes of the enemy at some point in time, and he doesn't base his decisions on the reading of tea leaves.

The situation in Afghanistan today is a consequence of the successes of the enemy, not American failure.

The enemy does not always do what you want him to do.

In this case the enemy did not wait "weeks or even years" to accomplish what he set out to do.
 

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Again, you're avoiding Trump's responsibility in the Afghanistan debacle because of your bias and partisanship. I don't care about the remainder of your spew. He lost. Move the fuck on.


You are really confused about this aren't you?

Every President since Bush has a bit of that shit sandwich.

However, the thing that Trump understood is that we couldn't continue with the nation building in Afghnistan and he said that many times and he worked to extract the US from our longest war. That is a good thing.

A lot better than the Worthless Negro/Joe Dufus administration that ESCALATED the war. Do you know what the word "escalated" means? Go look it up. That is exactly what the Democrats did.

This bit about trying to blame Trump for the incompetency of the Joe Dufus administration just shows what turds you Libtards are. Is it that you aren't taking your TDS meds like the mental health specialist prescribed?

Take responsibility for a change. Your little idiot boy fucked it up big time. We all knew he was a fuck up from his 40 year record and knew he was always on the wrong side and never got anything right. That is coming back to bite our country in the ass big time with this mismanagement of the draw down.

Just admit you were wrong in supporting that piece of shit. Honesty is the best policy. We need to have competent leadership like we got under Trump and that went out the window when the Democrats stole the election from the American people and installed a dumbass as President and an even worse stupid bitch as VP..

By the way don't post opinion pieces as facts. It shows what an idiot you are.
 

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You are really confused about this aren't you?

Every President since Bush has a bit of that shit sandwich.

However, the thing that Trump understood is that we couldn't continue with the nation building in Afghnistan and he said that many times and he worked to extract the US from our longest war. That is a good thing.

A lot better than the Worthless Negro/Joe Dufus administration that ESCALATED the war. Do you know what the word "escalated" means? Go look it up. That is exactly what the Democrats did.

This bit about trying to blame Trump for the incompetency of the Joe Dufus administration just shows what turds you Libtards are. Is it that you aren't taking your TDS meds like the mental health specialist prescribed?

Take responsibility for a change. Your little idiot boy fucked it up big time. We all knew he was a fuck up from his 40 year record and knew he was always on the wrong side and never got anything right. That is coming back to bite our country in the ass big time with this mismanagement of the draw down.

Just admit you were wrong in supporting that piece of shit. Honesty is the best policy. We need to have competent leadership like we got under Trump and that went out the window when the Democrats stole the election from the American people and installed a dumbass as President and an even worse stupid bitch as VP..

By the way don't post opinion pieces as facts. It shows what an idiot you are.
Stop typing the word "confused". Trump had a chance to do something about it but he didn't. Just like his predecessor.
These are not opinion pieces. I'm sorry your man lost, but he bears his share of the responsibility. Deal with it.
 

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Joe Dufus pulled off a miracle, equipping the Taliban with modern weaponry: from night vision, IR devices, to helicopters.

Scan Eagle drones (probably now on its way to China and Russia for disassembly)
22 x Super Tucano ground attack aircraft w/ GBU-58 Paveway II laser guided missiles
6 x MI24 Hind helicopters
11 x MD350F helicopters
35 x UH60 Blackhawks
76 x MI17 Hip transport helicopters
12 x Pilatus PC-12 planes
4 x C-130 Hercules
5 x Cessna Combat Caravan
44 x T-55/62 main battle tanks
1013 x Humvees/others
775 x M114A1 155mm/other artillery pieces

Who's going to teach them to operate and maintain that stuff?
 

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Trump had a chance to do something about it but he didn't.

Hey acehole-- -- -- Trump was the one who set this whole thing up. Without Trump, Biden wouldn't be withdrawing even today.

Just too bad that Trump couldn't still be in office to have done a better, more orderly job of leaving the country.
 

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Did Trump ever implement his "plan?" He had 4 years.

Joe Biddum had (20) TWENTY years.

Trump INVENTED the plan. It was all set to go down smoothly this past May had Trump stayed in office.

Biddum totally fucked it up like every Democrat does.

You stole the election, now you're mad your guy Joe got caught with his pants around his ankles.

And to think, Joe RAN on his competence and foreign policy EXPERIENCE. :lmao:
 

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Ron Paul is absolutely right.
Republicans usually are.

Once Bin laden was killed, the mission was over. Time to leave.
Probably right. Where have you and Obumma been? It's been TEN YEARS!

Neither Obama nor Trump had the stomach to withdraw from Afghanistan
That must be why Trump SET UP the withdrawal for this Spring!

Chaos was inevitable from any withdrawal.
Another Biddum rationalization?

That is why Obama and Trump passed the buck.
How did Trump pass the buck when he was DOING IT? Are you that fucking STOOPID or just a compulsive LIAR?

Biden is taking the heat now. It is what follows when you don't pass the buck.
Biddum is taking the heat for the worst screw up in history. He has no one to pass the buck to except maybe his bitch.



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Bush and Cheney blundered into Afghanistan without a plan. Trump negotiated with the Taliban to withdraw troops.

But yeah, let's blame Biden for the mess.
 

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Stop..responding..to..my..posts.

Jack, do you ever post? And here I thought you spread your ass-cheeks and simply shit all over everybody's screens here with your baby diarrhea that passes for a mind. Joe Biden has taken a simple evacuation and turned it into a travesty and a CALAMITY and there is NO getting around that fact or blaming anyone but him for it much as you try.

NOW your favorite cuckold has gone from saying nothing COULD go wrong with Afghanistan to admitting he always knew nothing would go RIGHT!



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