Justice Roberts says what?

[Pogo]

There is no impeachment for a former president over what some addled opposition party members feel he did while President.

If his punishment is stopped by his no longer being in office. What stops an impeached president from stalling his trial for days, weeks or even months, waiting for the end of his term in office to take place prior to their convicting him. Thus leaving no punishment congress could impose on him.

And along the same lines what stops a Senate, say I dunno, Majority Leader, from refusing to schedule Senate sessions until after the impeached is no longer in office.

 

[Pogo]

Third thread on this, and it doesn't really matter.


Dems actually think 17 republicans are going to cross the aisle to convict.

(They've been licking rainbows again.)

Correct, it doesn't really matter any more. A conviction would simply be icing on the cake. What's important is that inciting a riot to storm the Capitol, to break-their-windows-break-them-now, assault security, to trawl around looking for hanging victims, to plant pipe bombs and to shit on the floor, brings consequences. Those consequences came down January 13 and are forever writ in history. Rump becomes the third POTUS to be impeached but the only one to get that slapdown twice.

On the other hand NOT doing anything would have been a tacit declaration that stirring up a mob insurrection complete with murder, gallows, bombs, prisoner plastic ties and shit on the floor is perfectly OK. That would be unacceptable.

 

[Richard-H]

Third thread on this, and it doesn't really matter.


Dems actually think 17 republicans are going to cross the aisle to convict.

(They've been licking rainbows again.)

It's very possible that the Democratic majority will vote to have the Senators vote in a secret ballot.

If they do Trump is toast!!!

 

[Desperado]

Trump was i

it is first sign that Roberts might have a tiny backbone

He shows backbone by refusing to do his job? the man is a coward

He is doing his job. The Senate can't try any civilian and Trump is now a civilian.

CORRECT. Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution states: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Constitution also allows for involuntary removal from office of the president, vice president, Cabinet secretaries, and other executive officers, as well as judges, who may be impeached by the House of Representatives and tried in the Senate.

Any official convicted by the Senate is immediately removed from office, and the Senate may also order, by a simple majority, that the removed official be forever disqualified from holding any federal office.

The Constitution makes no allowance for impeaching a person from office who HOLDS NO OFFICE and is not a civil officer of the United States. Period. End of story.


Before Nancy can have her pound of flesh, she would need to have an amendment ratified to the Constitution first making allowance for the Senate to try civilians and FORMER officers of the United States, which they cannot do as this would create a legal quandry of giving the Senate unlimited power to cross legal boundaries into civilian courts.

Trump was impeached while he was President. So the impeachment is valid.

Once impeached the Senate must put him on trial. It's up to the Senate when to schedule the trial.

The fact that he is no longer President is not relevant.

When Sen. Blount was impeached in 1797, the fact that he had already been expelled from the Senate was deemed not relevant.

U.S. Senate: Blount Expulsion

Hey dumbass! Blount ws expelled. He was also NOT the President.

Then he should have stated that being the Chief Justice and ended this travesty

 

[toobfreak]

Trump was i

it is first sign that Roberts might have a tiny backbone

He shows backbone by refusing to do his job? the man is a coward

He is doing his job. The Senate can't try any civilian and Trump is now a civilian.

CORRECT. Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution states: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Constitution also allows for involuntary removal from office of the president, vice president, Cabinet secretaries, and other executive officers, as well as judges, who may be impeached by the House of Representatives and tried in the Senate.

Any official convicted by the Senate is immediately removed from office, and the Senate may also order, by a simple majority, that the removed official be forever disqualified from holding any federal office.

The Constitution makes no allowance for impeaching a person from office who HOLDS NO OFFICE and is not a civil officer of the United States. Period. End of story.


Before Nancy can have her pound of flesh, she would need to have an amendment ratified to the Constitution first making allowance for the Senate to try civilians and FORMER officers of the United States, which they cannot do as this would create a legal quandry of giving the Senate unlimited power to cross legal boundaries into civilian courts.

Trump was impeached while he was President. So the impeachment is valid.

Once impeached the Senate must put him on trial. It's up to the Senate when to schedule the trial.

The fact that he is no longer President is not relevant.

When Sen. Blount was impeached in 1797, the fact that he had already been expelled from the Senate was deemed not relevant.

U.S. Senate: Blount Expulsion

Hey dumbass! Blount ws expelled. He was also NOT the President.

Then he should have stated that being the Chief Justice and ended this travesty

State what? The main reason Biden is in office is BECAUSE of Roberts! Isn't it HE who vehemently refused to hear Trump's case? And I find it ironic it was he who gave Biden the oath of office.

 

[WillHaftawaite]

Trump was i

it is first sign that Roberts might have a tiny backbone

He shows backbone by refusing to do his job? the man is a coward

He is doing his job. The Senate can't try any civilian and Trump is now a civilian.

CORRECT. Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution states: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Constitution also allows for involuntary removal from office of the president, vice president, Cabinet secretaries, and other executive officers, as well as judges, who may be impeached by the House of Representatives and tried in the Senate.

Any official convicted by the Senate is immediately removed from office, and the Senate may also order, by a simple majority, that the removed official be forever disqualified from holding any federal office.

The Constitution makes no allowance for impeaching a person from office who HOLDS NO OFFICE and is not a civil officer of the United States. Period. End of story.


Before Nancy can have her pound of flesh, she would need to have an amendment ratified to the Constitution first making allowance for the Senate to try civilians and FORMER officers of the United States, which they cannot do as this would create a legal quandry of giving the Senate unlimited power to cross legal boundaries into civilian courts.

Trump was impeached while he was President. So the impeachment is valid.

Once impeached the Senate must put him on trial. It's up to the Senate when to schedule the trial.

The fact that he is no longer President is not relevant.

When Sen. Blount was impeached in 1797, the fact that he had already been expelled from the Senate was deemed not relevant.

U.S. Senate: Blount Expulsion

Hey dumbass! Blount ws expelled. He was also NOT the President.

Then he should have stated that being the Chief Justice and ended this travesty

State what? The main reason Biden is in office is BECAUSE of Roberts! Isn't it HE who vehemently refused to hear Trump's case? And I find it ironic it was he who gave Biden the oath of office.

And I find it ironic it was he who gave Biden the oath of office.

Why?

Chief Justice giving the oath is pretty standard.

Oath of office of the president of the United States - Wikipedia

 

[toobfreak]

Why?

Oh well, I wrote a cogent explanation then the USMB server DUMPED IT. Tough cookies.