Justice Department Still Blocking Evidence From Ukraine Against Democrats

[longknife]

What we are seeing right now is the sickness that has grown in our government since the days of President Woodrow Wilson. He gave us an ever-growing cadre of permanent government employees who have come to believe they know more about how government should operate than the American people.

The State Department is just one small part of it and it infests every nook and cranny of the federal government. There is little the president can do in the limited time of one term and one has to wonder if he could do much more with two. It's taken decades to get there and cannot be undone overnight.

There is a blogger who I admired until his constant railing against the president ignoring "those in the know at State" turned me off. He spoke loudly of what I wrote above.

We just have to hang in there and continue to support him every way we can.

 

[Paulie]

Keep wishing. A dump of unsubstantiated political dirt from Ukraine right now would bury the president. I'm sure you would welcome some foreign aid for the election but people who are not fifty feet up Trump's ass would see it for what it is, another article of impeachment, this time directly involving AG Barr.

Yes....some mystery unknown source swears on a stack of Korans that Trump fucked a goat.

What I'm seeing is the State Department revolting against the president....and the only reason these cocksuckers aren't going to prison is because the Demorats are providing cover thru a fake impeachment.

It's the president that is totally disrespecting the chain of command and trying to make the Department of State into his private sandbox. There is not a single person so far that can ever be in trouble because they can point to the rule book and say that they did what they were required to do.

The president is the top of the chain of command in the executive branch. It’s astonishing to me that people don’t understand this.

 

[OldLady]

Keep wishing. A dump of unsubstantiated political dirt from Ukraine right now would bury the president. I'm sure you would welcome some foreign aid for the election but people who are not fifty feet up Trump's ass would see it for what it is, another article of impeachment, this time directly involving AG Barr.

When a group says they have all kinds of damaging information on Democrats only and that they won't give the information to our law enforcement officials because they don't think they'll be treated fairly, I have to laugh.
This is a totally transparent attempt to get an audience with Barr, which is exactly what Trump suggested Zelensky do. Seems Zelensky is sending out his foot soldiers, perhaps, to do Trump's bidding? Because otherwise this is utter nonsense.
Allegations they refuse to have looked at, but we're supposed to believe them? I'm reaching for the salt shaker.

It's an opinion piece. There is nothing in it that needs to be taken seriously.

It didn't sound like an opinion piece to me. The statement from the Ukranians, I mean.

 

[OldLady]

What we are seeing right now is the sickness that has grown in our government since the days of President Woodrow Wilson. He gave us an ever-growing cadre of permanent government employees who have come to believe they know more about how government should operate than the American people.

The State Department is just one small part of it and it infests every nook and cranny of the federal government. There is little the president can do in the limited time of one term and one has to wonder if he could do much more with two. It's taken decades to get there and cannot be undone overnight.

There is a blogger who I admired until his constant railing against the president ignoring "those in the know at State" turned me off. He spoke loudly of what I wrote above.

We just have to hang in there and continue to support him every way we can.

They do know more than we do.
It's not our place to pretend our opinions are as informed as theirs.

 

[mudwhistle]

What we are seeing right now is the sickness that has grown in our government since the days of President Woodrow Wilson. He gave us an ever-growing cadre of permanent government employees who have come to believe they know more about how government should operate than the American people.

The State Department is just one small part of it and it infests every nook and cranny of the federal government. There is little the president can do in the limited time of one term and one has to wonder if he could do much more with two. It's taken decades to get there and cannot be undone overnight.

There is a blogger who I admired until his constant railing against the president ignoring "those in the know at State" turned me off. He spoke loudly of what I wrote above.

We just have to hang in there and continue to support him every way we can.

They do know more than we do.
It's not our place to pretend our opinions are as informed as theirs.

Knowing more isn't the same as doing what is in the best interests of our country without regard to your political leanings.

Democrats cannot be honest and keep their jobs. They have to lie to appear diplomatic or compitent. Democrats are willing to sell out America to get rich. This explains their push for socialism. They want to take our guns because they don't trust Americans.

And there are some Republicans who are doing the same thing, but the GOP doesn't have this win at all cost policy that has infected the Democrat Party. This policy is at the heart of government corruption.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The DoJ is still trying to keep evidence of Democrats committing crimes in Ukraine from being delivered to prosecutors in the US:

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Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?​

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Ukrainian law enforcement officials believe they have evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes. But, they say, they've been thwarted in trying to get the Trump Justice Department to act.​

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Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Prosecutor General's International Legal Cooperation Department, told me he and other senior law enforcement officials tried unsuccessfully since last year to get visas from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev to deliver their evidence to Washington.​

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"We were supposed to share this information during a working trip to the United States," Kulyk told me in a wide-ranging interview. "However, the [U.S.] ambassador blocked us from obtaining a visa. She didn't explicitly deny our visa, but also didn't give it to us."​

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One focus of Ukrainian investigators, Kulyk said, has been money spirited unlawfully out of Ukraine and moved to the United States by businessmen friendly to the prior, pro-Russia regime of Viktor Yanukovych.​

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Ukrainian businessmen "authorized payments for lobbying efforts directed at the U.S. government," he told me. "In addition, these payments were made from funds that were acquired during the money-laundering operation. We have information that a U.S. company was involved in these payments." That company is tied to one or more prominent Democrats, Ukrainian officials insist.​

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In another instance, he said, Ukrainian authorities gathered evidence that money paid to an American Democrat allegedly was hidden by Ukraine's National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) during the 2016 election under pressure from U.S. officials. "In the course of this investigation, we found that there was a situation during which influence was exerted on the NABU, so that the name of [the American] would not be mentioned," he said.​

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Ukraine is infamous for corruption and disinformation operations; its police agencies fight over what is considered evidence of wrongdoing. Kulyk and his bosses even have political fights over who should and shouldn't be prosecuted. Consequently, allegations emanating from Kiev usually are taken with a grain a salt.​

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But many of the allegations shared with me by more than a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials are supported by evidence that emerged in recent U.S. court filings and intelligence reports. The Ukrainians told me their evidence includes:​

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• Sworn statements from two Ukrainian officials admitting that their agency tried to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election in favor of Hillary Clinton. The effort included leaking an alleged ledger showing payments to then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort;
• Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;
• Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Biden's son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;
• Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;
• Correspondence showing members of the State Department and U.S. Embassy in Kiev interfered or applied pressure in criminal cases on Ukrainian soil;
• Disbursements of as much as $7 billion in Ukrainian funds that prosecutors believe may have been misappropriated or taken out of the country, including to the United States.

Ukrainian officials say they don't want to hand the evidence to FBI agents working in Ukraine because they believe the bureau has a close relationship with the NABU and the U.S. Embassy. "It is no secret in Ukrainian political circles that the NABU was created with American help and tried to exert influence during the U.S. presidential election," Kulyk told me.​

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Kulyk's boss, Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko, told me he has enough evidence - particularly involving Biden, his family and money spirited out of Ukraine - to warrant a meeting with U.S. Attorney General William Barr. "I'm looking forward to meeting with the attorney general of the United States in order to start and facilitate our joint investigation regarding the appropriation of another $7 billion in U.S. dollars with Ukrainian legal origin," Lutsenko said.​

Well fir decades they have earned the name dept of injustice so no surprise.

 

[mudwhistle]

They do know more than we do.
It's not our place to pretend our opinions are as informed as theirs.

That isn't an assumption we can maintain considering the fact that Biden can't remember if he talked to the CCP PM or just shit his pants.
And the fact that PA just elected a guy who cannot communicate without teleprompter to anyone and doesn't understand the spoken word....we cannot assume that these people know better than we do.
They are aware of whatever is going on in their environment....but it doesn't mean they have any common-sense.
Apparently everyone Biden picks to be in his adm is the last person you want running that agency.

 

[jc456]

That isn't an assumption we can maintain considering the fact that Biden can't remember if he talked to the CCP PM or just shit his pants.
And the fact that PA just elected a guy who cannot communicate without teleprompter to anyone and doesn't understand the spoken word....we cannot assume that these people know better than we do.
They are aware of whatever is going on in their environment....but it doesn't mean they have any common-sense.
Apparently everyone Biden picks to be in his adm is the last person you want running that agency.

it's called incapacitated.