Just your average day of "peaceful Islam"...

[Unkotare]

Some people are very resistant to putting certain strictures into historical context. If you left pork out in the hot sun way back when there was no refrigeration, there was a good chance you'd get sick and die. So, stick it in the holy book that people shouldn't eat pork. Probably prevented a lot of illness way back when. People who drink too much often become violent and hurt themselves or others. Ok, stick it in the book that you shouldn't drink too much (it doesn't actually say not to drink AT ALL, and there is a long history of imbibing in Islam). Probably helped prevent a lot of social trouble. I think that people can adhere to the fundamental tenets of their faith while understanding certain prohibitions in a rational historical context. But then, for some it is the unwavering adherence to every jot and tittle that is an essential part of the ritual proof of their piety and devotion. This too is understandable, but taken too far it can have (as we have seen) very unfortunate consequences.

Oh god please continue

That was about it. What more were you looking for?

 

[Ropey]

Some people are very resistant to putting certain strictures into historical context. If you left pork out in the hot sun way back when there was no refrigeration, there was a good chance you'd get sick and die. So, stick it in the holy book that people shouldn't eat pork. Probably prevented a lot of illness way back when. People who drink too much often become violent and hurt themselves or others. Ok, stick it in the book that you shouldn't drink too much (it doesn't actually say not to drink AT ALL, and there is a long history of imbibing in Islam). Probably helped prevent a lot of social trouble. I think that people can adhere to the fundamental tenets of their faith while understanding certain prohibitions in a rational historical context. But then, for some it is the unwavering adherence to every jot and tittle that is an essential part of the ritual proof of their piety and devotion. This too is understandable, but taken too far it can have (as we have seen) very unfortunate consequences.

Oh god please continue

That was about it. What more were you looking for?

She's your first disciple.

 

[Unkotare]

Oh god please continue

That was about it. What more were you looking for?

She's your first disciple.

First? My followers are legion!

 

[Ropey]

That was about it. What more were you looking for?

She's your first disciple.

First? My followers are legion!

Oh, right. I remember getting your pm last year.

You've ramped up then.

 

[Unkotare]

The free T-shirts really boosted membership.

 

[Jarlaxle]

You sound jealous............

And you Sunny Jim sound as thought you are gloating because you are permitted to beat your wife.

Ah.....but the after beating sex is the best!! ..

Until she castrates you with her teeth.

 

[Coyote]

So according to Islam's holy book, Mohammad ordered ALL DOGS TO BE KILLED. Wow, such a kind, compassionate, man of good virtues. And such a great um "perfect in every way" example for Muslims to follow.

What happened was a barking dog supposedly prevented an angel from visiting one of Mohammad's wives, Aisha, whom he married her at age 54 and she was only 8. So it's just one good virtue after another with this guy.

Seriously, can somebody show me the line is for us infidels who want to convert to Islam?

That's a bit of cherry picking on your part Roudy. In addition - you really have to consider this in historical context. The world of 1300 years ago was rife with rabies, and feral dogs consumed dead bodies, amongst other things. All of the ancient Middle East cultures that spawned todays religions didn't think much of dogs.

Fortunately we're more enlightened. Plus, we have rabies vaccines.

Some people are very resistant to putting certain strictures into historical context. If you left pork out in the hot sun way back when there was no refrigeration, there was a good chance you'd get sick and die. So, stick it in the holy book that people shouldn't eat pork. Probably prevented a lot of illness way back when. People who drink too much often become violent and hurt themselves or others. Ok, stick it in the book that you shouldn't drink too much (it doesn't actually say not to drink AT ALL, and there is a long history of imbibing in Islam). Probably helped prevent a lot of social trouble. I think that people can adhere to the fundamental tenets of their faith while understanding certain prohib itions in a rational historical context. But then, for some it is the unwavering adherence to every jot and tittle that is an essential part of the ritual proof of their piety and devotion. This too is understandable, but taken too far it can have (as we have seen) very unfortunate consequences.

The pork thing is interesting. One anthropologist thought it was because pigs compete for the same resource as humans. In a resource rich environment - forest land - which is their native habitat, it's not an issue. But in arid areas where water, shade, and food can be at a premium - pigs compete and goats/sheep/cattle do not. That is why pork is prohibited in religions that came out of the Middle East. Makes sense

 

[Unkotare]

That's a bit of cherry picking on your part Roudy. In addition - you really have to consider this in historical context. The world of 1300 years ago was rife with rabies, and feral dogs consumed dead bodies, amongst other things. All of the ancient Middle East cultures that spawned todays religions didn't think much of dogs.

Fortunately we're more enlightened. Plus, we have rabies vaccines.

Some people are very resistant to putting certain strictures into historical context. If you left pork out in the hot sun way back when there was no refrigeration, there was a good chance you'd get sick and die. So, stick it in the holy book that people shouldn't eat pork. Probably prevented a lot of illness way back when. People who drink too much often become violent and hurt themselves or others. Ok, stick it in the book that you shouldn't drink too much (it doesn't actually say not to drink AT ALL, and there is a long history of imbibing in Islam). Probably helped prevent a lot of social trouble. I think that people can adhere to the fundamental tenets of their faith while understanding certain prohib itions in a rational historical context. But then, for some it is the unwavering adherence to every jot and tittle that is an essential part of the ritual proof of their piety and devotion. This too is understandable, but taken too far it can have (as we have seen) very unfortunate consequences.

The pork thing is interesting. One anthropologist thought it was because pigs compete for the same resource as humans. In a resource rich environment - forest land - which is their native habitat, it's not an issue. But in arid areas where water, shade, and food can be at a premium - pigs compete and goats/sheep/cattle do not. That is why pork is prohibited in religions that came out of the Middle East. Makes sense

But it's not just pork. At least for Orthodox Jewish people shellfish is also off the menu. Surely they don't compete for resources, but bad shellfish can kill ya and periodic changes in bacteria levels in local waters could and probably did make that happen from time to time. In the absence of detailed knowledge about such things, simply staying away from shellfish would be an easy way to avoid the problem. So, into the book it goes.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Hammamis father was a Muslim from Syria wasn't he?

The Messiah aks us,
We'll burn down Damaksus.

****** aks me, "What up?"
I'm like, "Syria be Syrup."

Excuse me?

Yeah...pretty much!

 

[Nox]

Actually we dont eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

 

[Jarlaxle]

Actually, it's not, but anyway...

 

[Godboy]

Actually we dont eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

Where in that vile Quran of yours does it say that? You are making shit up.

 

[Coyote]

Actually we dont eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

Where in that vile Quran of yours does it say that? You are making shit up.

Lots of folks don't base their dietary choices on religious texts. Ever thought of that?

 

[Nox]

Where in that vile Quran of yours does it say that? You are making shit up.

Quran says pork is a filthy meat , but if you have to eat , you can eat as long as you've never overdo it .

What do you expect from Quran ? dont eat pork because it includes so much fat , sulfur and high levels of growth hormone .

This is not encyclopedia . You remind me people those who say "why quran dont talk about dinasourus" LoL

 

[Kondor3]

"...You remind me people those who say "why quran dont talk about dinasourus"

That's OK... metaphorically and culturally speaking, the Q'uran IS a dinosaur.

 

[Roudy]

Actually we dont eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

Wow, that's the biggest pile of compost that you just uttered. You're either not a Muslim and acting like one, or you're a liar who assumes everybody is as ignorant as you are. So which is it?

 

[Roudy]

Actually we dont eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

Where in that vile Quran of yours does it say that? You are making shit up.

Lots of folks don't base their dietary choices on religious texts. Ever thought of that?

Yeah, 1400 years ago, Muslims knew of "hormones" and "fatty meats". Ha ha ha. The outrageous shit some Muslims say.

 

[Roudy]

Look I will prove how hadiths contradict each other , this is a Bukhari hadith ;

(2) Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A man saw a Dog eating mud from (the severity of) thirst. So, that man took a shoe (and filled it) with water and kept on pouring the water for the Dog till it quenched its thirst. So Allah approved of his deed and made him to enter Paradise."


So Muhammad (sav) dont like dogs but he say those who help a dog to drink water will forgiven for other sins .

Now Muhammad (sav) is a animal lover person : ) but you're still double chracter

Yes, the Koran contradicts itself. Duh. That's one of the major problems with it, and the cause of so much hatred and violence. For example, on one hand Mohammad says Jews and Christians are people of the book and then on the other hand he criticizes both of them and openly recommends they be persecuted and oppressed, if not killed, should they refuse to convert to Islam. Again, you're dealing with a megalomaniac and an illiterate who was probably bipolar and highly violent.

 

[Unkotare]

Actually we dont [sic] eat pork , because it includes some hormones harmful for human health and its so fatty animal and this is harmful to cardiovascular health .

That is incorrect.

 

[Roudy]

Some people are very resistant to putting certain strictures into historical context. If you left pork out in the hot sun way back when there was no refrigeration, there was a good chance you'd get sick and die. So, stick it in the holy book that people shouldn't eat pork. Probably prevented a lot of illness way back when. People who drink too much often become violent and hurt themselves or others. Ok, stick it in the book that you shouldn't drink too much (it doesn't actually say not to drink AT ALL, and there is a long history of imbibing in Islam). Probably helped prevent a lot of social trouble. I think that people can adhere to the fundamental tenets of their faith while understanding certain prohib itions in a rational historical context. But then, for some it is the unwavering adherence to every jot and tittle that is an essential part of the ritual proof of their piety and devotion. This too is understandable, but taken too far it can have (as we have seen) very unfortunate consequences.

The pork thing is interesting. One anthropologist thought it was because pigs compete for the same resource as humans. In a resource rich environment - forest land - which is their native habitat, it's not an issue. But in arid areas where water, shade, and food can be at a premium - pigs compete and goats/sheep/cattle do not. That is why pork is prohibited in religions that came out of the Middle East. Makes sense

But it's not just pork. At least for Orthodox Jewish people shellfish is also off the menu. Surely they don't compete for resources, but bad shellfish can kill ya and periodic changes in bacteria levels in local waters could and probably did make that happen from time to time. In the absence of detailed knowledge about such things, simply staying away from shellfish would be an easy way to avoid the problem. So, into the book it goes.

Pigs were dirty animals because they are very low to the ground, and, not only eat their own feces, but other animals' as well. Today however, they are raised different and those concerns no longer exist. Despite that, there are still certain problems with eating pork that are exclusive to that meat. Limiting pork consumption is a good idea, if not for religious then health reasons:

Harmful Bacteria Found in Samples of U.S. Pork

According to the study, 69% of pork chops and ground pork samples tested positive for Yersinia enterocolitica, a bug known to cause infections in about 100,000 Americans a year, especially kids. Other bacteria found in pork samples included enterococcus, staph, salmonella, and listeria. Twenty-three percent had none of the bacteria that was tested for. Some of the bacteria seen in the pork samples were resistant to antibiotics.

Trichinosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm. There are eight Trichinella species; five are encapsulated and three are not.[1] Only three Trichinella species are known to cause trichinosis: T. spiralis, T. nativa, and T. britovi.[1]

Pork Safety | What's in Pork - Consumer Reports

Our analysis of pork-chop and ground-pork samples from around the U.S. found that yersinia enterocolitica, a bacterium that can cause fever, diarrhea, and abdominal pain, was widespread. Some samples harbored other potentially harmful bacteria, including salmonella. And there are more reasons to be concerned about “the other white meat.”

Shellfish, similar to pigs, are the scavengers of the ocean roaming it's bottom, consuming waste of other fish that makes its way to ocean floor.