Julie Swetnick, the new accuser

[AzogtheDefiler]

Right... all these people on here that call people snitches and babies for reporting posts on here are giving this woman a hard time for not reporting what large groups of high school boys are doing... GTFO.

Her life would be absolute hell and she would have to testify against them in court. She ended up getting gang raped herself. In high school it is all about being around the popular crowd... even if that means being around people that do bad things. This might not be the attitude of everyone, but it is for some.

That is a good point; but she was 20, and out of high school.

Ahhh so now you're a little skeptical like moi? Welcome to the party.

 

[Asclepias]

Why wouldnt she be?

She admitted she knew it was Gang Bang Central.

Maybe she was with someone that would make sure she wasnt gang banged?

ADMITTED TO KNOWING MINORS WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOTHING!

Yup, defending the indefensible.

Youre just mad she saw your boy Kav standing in a gang bang line. Better late than never.

You are defending an adult who admits to being witness to minors being raped, and this is how you respond????

Good God, I really didn't think the left could go any lower. I WAS WRONG!

Yeah. She finally reported the rapist so I applaud and defend her.

 

[Pop23]

She graduated in 1980. So she would be 20 in 1982? Why is she attending rape parties with HS kids? It doesn't add up to me. I am being naieve but then again you already know this about me. Hence, I don't use my brain for work. LOL.

I was talking about Ford not Stewick. In Stewicks case I dont find it odd that she went to parties with high school kids. Now the fact that she is an adult and didnt report this means she opened herself up to criminal charges. That doesnt sound to me like something someone would purposely lie about in order to go to prison.

This reads like a bad crime novel. I have Kav fatigue. Nominate someone else. A woman.

I'm still trying to figure out why someone would believe this was a dem setup. Maybe the person that set it up was drunk.

Because of this:

There are only three ways to explain this combination of details:

1) It’s not actually true that Kavanaugh and his friends were gang-raping women left and right. The story is completely fabricated.

2) It’s true that there was a lot of sexual contact at these parties, and it’s true that the parties were known for that kind of thing, but the sexual contact was consensual and it happened between people who came to those kinds of parties for that kind of thing.

3) Kavanaugh and his friends really were gang rapists, infamous for sexually brutalizing unsuspecting coeds, but girls kept coming to the parties hoping that they’d be spared.

Innocent people don’t generally attend rape parties over and over again. That just makes no sense. It is far outside the bounds of rational, or believable, human behavior.

Again:

Swetnik graduated high school in 1980. That means she was an adult when she attended these high school gang rape parties. So, she not only went to parties with minors when she was an adult, but she went with the knowledge that violent sex crimes were being committed, and she never contacted the authorities.

1. I dont know about left or right but he did something he is trying to cover up. You can see it in his body language

2. Some of it may have been consensual. However, its rare that a woman would consent to a gang bang when she is coherent.

3. I have never heard of a rape party. People dont go to parties to get raped.

Again I dont find it odd she went to the parties. She probably still had friends in high school. Yes technically she was an adult which makes it even stranger to me that she would expose herself to criminal charges. That by itself tells me that whoever "planned" the setup is retarded or the accusations are true.

Or there is no proof it ever really happened, because without a victim, you can admit to things till the cows come home without legal jeopardy.

Brilliant, ain't it. You can still ruin a mans life with hearsay, and get by scott free.

Reverse engineering at it's finest

 

[Pop23]

She admitted she knew it was Gang Bang Central.

Maybe she was with someone that would make sure she wasnt gang banged?

ADMITTED TO KNOWING MINORS WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOTHING!

Yup, defending the indefensible.

Youre just mad she saw your boy Kav standing in a gang bang line. Better late than never.

You are defending an adult who admits to being witness to minors being raped, and this is how you respond????

Good God, I really didn't think the left could go any lower. I WAS WRONG!

Yeah. She finally reported the rapist so I applaud and defend her.

Names please, you left that part out.

 

[Asclepias]

I was talking about Ford not Stewick. In Stewicks case I dont find it odd that she went to parties with high school kids. Now the fact that she is an adult and didnt report this means she opened herself up to criminal charges. That doesnt sound to me like something someone would purposely lie about in order to go to prison.

This reads like a bad crime novel. I have Kav fatigue. Nominate someone else. A woman.

I'm still trying to figure out why someone would believe this was a dem setup. Maybe the person that set it up was drunk.

Because of this:

There are only three ways to explain this combination of details:

1) It’s not actually true that Kavanaugh and his friends were gang-raping women left and right. The story is completely fabricated.

2) It’s true that there was a lot of sexual contact at these parties, and it’s true that the parties were known for that kind of thing, but the sexual contact was consensual and it happened between people who came to those kinds of parties for that kind of thing.

3) Kavanaugh and his friends really were gang rapists, infamous for sexually brutalizing unsuspecting coeds, but girls kept coming to the parties hoping that they’d be spared.

Innocent people don’t generally attend rape parties over and over again. That just makes no sense. It is far outside the bounds of rational, or believable, human behavior.

Again:

Swetnik graduated high school in 1980. That means she was an adult when she attended these high school gang rape parties. So, she not only went to parties with minors when she was an adult, but she went with the knowledge that violent sex crimes were being committed, and she never contacted the authorities.

1. I dont know about left or right but he did something he is trying to cover up. You can see it in his body language

2. Some of it may have been consensual. However, its rare that a woman would consent to a gang bang when she is coherent.

3. I have never heard of a rape party. People dont go to parties to get raped.

Again I dont find it odd she went to the parties. She probably still had friends in high school. Yes technically she was an adult which makes it even stranger to me that she would expose herself to criminal charges. That by itself tells me that whoever "planned" the setup is retarded or the accusations are true.

Or there is no proof it ever really happened, because without a victim, you can admit to things till the cows come home without legal jeopardy.

Brilliant, ain't it. You can still ruin a mans life with hearsay, and get by scott free.

Reverse engineering at it's finest

Ford is proof.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

He was in training

I remember a party my sophomore year in high school where a bunch of boys pulled a train on a drunk girl in the back bedroom.
We would have been 15 or 16.
Was pretty much disgusted with the bunch of 'em who bragged about it at school the following week.

So you are guilty of not reporting a rape?

Yeah, and we are supposed to believe you? It's just as easy to conclude that you participated in it. See how that works creep?

Had I believed it was a rape, I'd certainly have reported it. But this girl had a history of doing the same thing at one other party at least.

She liked to ****. You didn't know girls like that in high school?

So a "train" isn't a "rape," then, in that case. If she was doing it voluntarily, that's a different kettle of fish.

Agreed - So to be fair, it probably isn't comparable to giving a girl suspicious punch or a Quaalude, then escorting her to a bedroom.
What Kav and his buddies did was obviously a different kettle and not directly comparable.
I never witnessed anything like that.

Quaaludes weren't readily available at the time.
Mandrax was the downer of choice in the early eighties.

 

[hadit]

There are no statute of limitations in Maryland for attempted rape or rape. None of the boys (now men) will come forward now because they could be criminally charged. But other people that didn’t participate could come forward. And this woman who is already been vetted and has multiple security clearances has corroborating witnesses.

Apparently all this information was turned over to the Senate last Sunday and they sat on it.

So her being vetted and holding security clearances gives her credibility, but Kavenaugh being checked out by the FBI multiple times doesn't. You do realize how silly that appeal to authority sounds, right?

 

[Asclepias]

Maybe she was with someone that would make sure she wasnt gang banged?

ADMITTED TO KNOWING MINORS WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOTHING!

Yup, defending the indefensible.

Youre just mad she saw your boy Kav standing in a gang bang line. Better late than never.

You are defending an adult who admits to being witness to minors being raped, and this is how you respond????

Good God, I really didn't think the left could go any lower. I WAS WRONG!

Yeah. She finally reported the rapist so I applaud and defend her.

Names please, you left that part out.

Kavanaugh or Ford?

 

[Pop23]

This reads like a bad crime novel. I have Kav fatigue. Nominate someone else. A woman.

I'm still trying to figure out why someone would believe this was a dem setup. Maybe the person that set it up was drunk.

Because of this:

There are only three ways to explain this combination of details:

1) It’s not actually true that Kavanaugh and his friends were gang-raping women left and right. The story is completely fabricated.

2) It’s true that there was a lot of sexual contact at these parties, and it’s true that the parties were known for that kind of thing, but the sexual contact was consensual and it happened between people who came to those kinds of parties for that kind of thing.

3) Kavanaugh and his friends really were gang rapists, infamous for sexually brutalizing unsuspecting coeds, but girls kept coming to the parties hoping that they’d be spared.

Innocent people don’t generally attend rape parties over and over again. That just makes no sense. It is far outside the bounds of rational, or believable, human behavior.

Again:

Swetnik graduated high school in 1980. That means she was an adult when she attended these high school gang rape parties. So, she not only went to parties with minors when she was an adult, but she went with the knowledge that violent sex crimes were being committed, and she never contacted the authorities.

1. I dont know about left or right but he did something he is trying to cover up. You can see it in his body language

2. Some of it may have been consensual. However, its rare that a woman would consent to a gang bang when she is coherent.

3. I have never heard of a rape party. People dont go to parties to get raped.

Again I dont find it odd she went to the parties. She probably still had friends in high school. Yes technically she was an adult which makes it even stranger to me that she would expose herself to criminal charges. That by itself tells me that whoever "planned" the setup is retarded or the accusations are true.

Or there is no proof it ever really happened, because without a victim, you can admit to things till the cows come home without legal jeopardy.

Brilliant, ain't it. You can still ruin a mans life with hearsay, and get by scott free.

Reverse engineering at it's finest

Ford is proof.

Did she state that Ford was one of the Minors that were raped by this club? I guess I missed that. Link please.

 

[Asclepias]

There are no statute of limitations in Maryland for attempted rape or rape. None of the boys (now men) will come forward now because they could be criminally charged. But other people that didn’t participate could come forward. And this woman who is already been vetted and has multiple security clearances has corroborating witnesses.

Apparently all this information was turned over to the Senate last Sunday and they sat on it.

So her being vetted and holding security clearances gives her credibility, but Kavenaugh being checked out by the FBI multiple times doesn't. You do realize how silly that appeal to authority sounds, right?

The FBI must have done a piss poor job. Why didnt they find these people the first 6 times?

 

[Lewdog]

Right... all these people on here that call people snitches and babies for reporting posts on here are giving this woman a hard time for not reporting what large groups of high school boys are doing... GTFO.

Her life would be absolute hell and she would have to testify against them in court. She ended up getting gang raped herself. In high school it is all about being around the popular crowd... even if that means being around people that do bad things. This might not be the attitude of everyone, but it is for some.

That is a good point; but she was 20, and out of high school.

Lots of people that still live in an area they grew up have friends younger than them still in high school. Heck, at my high school there were 17 year old seniors who dated 14-15 year old Freshmen. There are Romeo and Juliet laws in some states that allow it.

 

[boedicca]

Julie Swetnik was a legal adult when the alleged train rapes happened at multiple parties. So, she continued to party while she knew girls were being raped? And we should find her credible because.....?

 

[Pop23]

ADMITTED TO KNOWING MINORS WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOTHING!

Yup, defending the indefensible.

Youre just mad she saw your boy Kav standing in a gang bang line. Better late than never.

You are defending an adult who admits to being witness to minors being raped, and this is how you respond????

Good God, I really didn't think the left could go any lower. I WAS WRONG!

Yeah. She finally reported the rapist so I applaud and defend her.

Names please, you left that part out.

Kavanaugh or Ford?

There is only one rape allegation. And Kavanaugh is not implicated in it.

 

[hadit]

There are no statute of limitations in Maryland for attempted rape or rape. None of the boys (now men) will come forward now because they could be criminally charged. But other people that didn’t participate could come forward. And this woman who is already been vetted and has multiple security clearances has corroborating witnesses.

Apparently all this information was turned over to the Senate last Sunday and they sat on it.

This is getting even more ridiculous by the day(and that's saying something)! Why, when noticing the spiking of the punch, continue to go to these parties 10 times?

And why stand by silently when girls are being raped in the next room?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

This reads like a bad crime novel. I have Kav fatigue. Nominate someone else. A woman.

I'm still trying to figure out why someone would believe this was a dem setup. Maybe the person that set it up was drunk.

Because of this:

There are only three ways to explain this combination of details:

1) It’s not actually true that Kavanaugh and his friends were gang-raping women left and right. The story is completely fabricated.

2) It’s true that there was a lot of sexual contact at these parties, and it’s true that the parties were known for that kind of thing, but the sexual contact was consensual and it happened between people who came to those kinds of parties for that kind of thing.

3) Kavanaugh and his friends really were gang rapists, infamous for sexually brutalizing unsuspecting coeds, but girls kept coming to the parties hoping that they’d be spared.

Innocent people don’t generally attend rape parties over and over again. That just makes no sense. It is far outside the bounds of rational, or believable, human behavior.

Again:

Swetnik graduated high school in 1980. That means she was an adult when she attended these high school gang rape parties. So, she not only went to parties with minors when she was an adult, but she went with the knowledge that violent sex crimes were being committed, and she never contacted the authorities.

1. I dont know about left or right but he did something he is trying to cover up. You can see it in his body language

2. Some of it may have been consensual. However, its rare that a woman would consent to a gang bang when she is coherent.

3. I have never heard of a rape party. People dont go to parties to get raped.

Again I dont find it odd she went to the parties. She probably still had friends in high school. Yes technically she was an adult which makes it even stranger to me that she would expose herself to criminal charges. That by itself tells me that whoever "planned" the setup is retarded or the accusations are true.

Or there is no proof it ever really happened, because without a victim, you can admit to things till the cows come home without legal jeopardy.

Brilliant, ain't it. You can still ruin a mans life with hearsay, and get by scott free.

Reverse engineering at it's finest

Ford is proof.

How so?

 

[mudwhistle]

Why was she at this party in 1982 with 15 and 17 year olds?

Why wouldnt she be?

She admitted she knew it was Gang Bang Central.

when did she "admit" that? and if it's true, does that make it ok for the proposed lifetime justice to get a seat on the bench?

your question, while amusing is irrelevant. HIS behavior is relevant. Or are you trying to use the old misogynist "she asked for it"?

Are you keeping up with the Thread or did you just jump in with your typical Liberal bullshit?

I'm bored of rightwingnut BS........ and I am not really interested in what the little trumpkins are sayin. my question was still valid..... so I'll repeat it for the cognitively impaired":

your question, while amusing is irrelevant. HIS behavior is relevant. Or are you trying to use the old misogynist "she asked for it"?

Well we're tired of your leftwing lies, deceptions, and your Bullshit.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm still trying to figure out why someone would believe this was a dem setup. Maybe the person that set it up was drunk.

Because of this:

There are only three ways to explain this combination of details:

1) It’s not actually true that Kavanaugh and his friends were gang-raping women left and right. The story is completely fabricated.

2) It’s true that there was a lot of sexual contact at these parties, and it’s true that the parties were known for that kind of thing, but the sexual contact was consensual and it happened between people who came to those kinds of parties for that kind of thing.

3) Kavanaugh and his friends really were gang rapists, infamous for sexually brutalizing unsuspecting coeds, but girls kept coming to the parties hoping that they’d be spared.

Innocent people don’t generally attend rape parties over and over again. That just makes no sense. It is far outside the bounds of rational, or believable, human behavior.

Again:

Swetnik graduated high school in 1980. That means she was an adult when she attended these high school gang rape parties. So, she not only went to parties with minors when she was an adult, but she went with the knowledge that violent sex crimes were being committed, and she never contacted the authorities.

1. I dont know about left or right but he did something he is trying to cover up. You can see it in his body language

2. Some of it may have been consensual. However, its rare that a woman would consent to a gang bang when she is coherent.

3. I have never heard of a rape party. People dont go to parties to get raped.

Again I dont find it odd she went to the parties. She probably still had friends in high school. Yes technically she was an adult which makes it even stranger to me that she would expose herself to criminal charges. That by itself tells me that whoever "planned" the setup is retarded or the accusations are true.

Or there is no proof it ever really happened, because without a victim, you can admit to things till the cows come home without legal jeopardy.

Brilliant, ain't it. You can still ruin a mans life with hearsay, and get by scott free.

Reverse engineering at it's finest

Ford is proof.

Did she state that Ford was one of the Minors that were raped by this club? I guess I missed that. Link please.

She doesnt have say Ford was one of the minors. She is describing the same scene Ford described.

 

[Oddball]

Yeah, she's a political operative intent turning her life upside down, lying to the FBI, getting doxed, receiving death threats and being forced into hiding.
Makes perfect sense to .... NO ONE

Says she returned to these gang rape parties no fewer than TEN TIMES!

Makes perfect sense to .... NO ONE!

 

[Cecilie1200]

No doubt republicans will try to destroy her life too. The confirmation MUST be delayed.

How can you rush a vote without investigating?

Because what he did or didn't do as a teenager has no bearing on his performance of SCOTUS.

Not if he was involved in this. The other two, yeah, I would probably give him a pass. Gang rape? NO

I can't believe you're even taking this seriously enough to say "if" about it. It is completely implausible and unbelievable.

 

[Pop23]

There are no statute of limitations in Maryland for attempted rape or rape. None of the boys (now men) will come forward now because they could be criminally charged. But other people that didn’t participate could come forward. And this woman who is already been vetted and has multiple security clearances has corroborating witnesses.

Apparently all this information was turned over to the Senate last Sunday and they sat on it.

This is getting even more ridiculous by the day(and that's saying something)! Why, when noticing the spiking of the punch, continue to go to these parties 10 times?

And why stand by silently when girls are being raped in the next room?

....... Then expect anyone with such low morals to believe you?