Judge Temporarily Blocks EO Banning Gender Affirming Care

[TemplarKormac]

That only applies to laws written to specifically fund certain things. If all the law is say "do this" and some executive branch flunky designated the actual allocations, then all the President has to do is remove the designations.

So, might I ask, where does he derive his authority to do it?

I would think since he is only reinterpreting something in the ACA (namely Section 1557), that he isn't creating new legislation or creating new purposes for the funding.

But I could be wrong. I always interpreted any attempt to alter the nature of the funding, or allowing, and restricting it to require Congressional action.

 

[martybegan]

So, might I ask, where does he derive his authority to do it?

I would think since he is only reinterpreting something in the ACA (namely Section 1557), that he isn't creating new legislation or creating new purposes for the funding.

But I could be wrong. I always interpreted any attempt to alter the nature of the funding, or allowing, and restricting it to require Congressional action.

Congress passes laws to create agency X to handle problem Y.

They give them authority to provide funds for problem Y, but don't tell them actually how to or who to disburse those funds. That is figured out by the people working in agency X who work for the acting President.

I doubt there is any law passed by congress that says "pay 59 million to NYC for hotel rooms for illegal migrants."

 

[Crepitus]

Well I guess that it's my own fault for thinking that the war on woke was over. It turns out that it's only just begun. OhPleaseJustQuit, Thunk, JGalt, and toobfreak I feel like this is a trouble in paradise moment.

Judge blocks Trump order restricting access to gender-affirming care for now

President Trump's executive action sought to restrict access to gender-affirming care for people under the age of 19.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[martybegan]

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Keep defending mutilating and drugging confused children. Another 80/20 issue you are on the 20 side of.

 

[Crepitus]

Keep defending mutilating and drugging confused children. Another 80/20 issue you are on the 20 side of.

Well that's not true.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Congress passes laws to create agency X to handle problem Y.

They give them authority to provide funds for problem Y, but don't tell them actually how to or who to disburse those funds. That is figured out by the people working in agency X who work for the acting President.

I doubt there is any law passed by congress that says "pay 59 million to NYC for hotel rooms for illegal migrants."

No there isn't any law that says "pay 59 million to NYC for hotel rooms for illegal migrants," of course.

But Subpart B (iv) of Section 1557 of the ACA prohibits discrimination with federal funding to hospitals based on gender identity. That alone would disqualify the EO. Clear language.

I'm afraid Trump will fail. He still needs Congress.

 

[TemplarKormac]

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You should be asking yourselves that question, really.

The irony of you posting that is beyond overwhelming.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That only applies to laws written to specifically fund certain things. If all the law is say "do this" and some executive branch flunky designated the actual allocations, then all the President has to do is remove the designations.

If the law was said to fund this in these amounts, Trump cannot touch them by himself.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Well I guess that it's my own fault for thinking that the war on woke was over. It turns out that it's only just begun. OhPleaseJustQuit, Thunk, JGalt, and toobfreak I feel like this is a trouble in paradise moment.

Judge blocks Trump order restricting access to gender-affirming care for now

President Trump's executive action sought to restrict access to gender-affirming care for people under the age of 19.

www.cbsnews.com

Gender affirming care.. that term alone is just sick, no way that ruling will stand, that's also a big reason why Trump won, the woke bullshit needs to end..

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Well I guess that it's my own fault for thinking that the war on woke was over. It turns out that it's only just begun. OhPleaseJustQuit, Thunk, JGalt, and toobfreak I feel like this is a trouble in paradise moment.

Judge blocks Trump order restricting access to gender-affirming care for now

President Trump's executive action sought to restrict access to gender-affirming care for people under the age of 19.

www.cbsnews.com

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Won't stand for long.

They've tried a million ways to Sunday to stop him and haven't yet. They never will.


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

No, the best thing is for this administration to let this play out in the courts in a very public manner. Let these loons explain to the entire country why it's a good thing to alter children.

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They first sexually molest them, and then they alter them.

I kind of think you're right. Hoist them from their own petard.


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

How can the EO discriminate based on sex and transgender status when the plaintiffs do not even know what sex they are?


I dare anyone to prove to me the existence of any sex other than male or female. The very term "gender ideology" mean idea, theory or belief, meaning that transgender kids have nothing more to show than their word or claim that they believe they are the wrong gender.


Children have no standing to argue anything, much less gender when a 12 year old hasn't even entered puberty yet to have any real gender identity. Worse, a great many transgender kids later regret the forced transition and suffer mental anguish and regret right up to suicide. Add to that, THEY ARE MINORS, so by definition, fall under their parent's care and are not old enough to make adult decisions.


How do you diagnose a child with dysphoria when there is no medical test for it beyond their mere claim of their beliefs?


How can DOING NOTHING and leaving a person alone to grow up at least until they are 18 as nature intended them "gravely threaten" anyone?


Gee, I would certainly hope so.

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Honest to gosh, these sad freaks actually believe that not calling them by their preferred pronouns is tantamount to killing them. How much more dead can they get if we deny them their mutilation?


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Well ,this "Dysphoria" is a MENTAL Illness. They should try to CURE the Mental Illness. Not use dangerous drugs and surgery to make the BODY conform to said Mental illness.

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Look at how much they "treat" with absolutely NO objective diagnosis, including most mental illness.

They're ghouls



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[Curried Goats]

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Look at how much they "treat" with absolutely NO objective diagnosis, including most mental illness.

They're ghouls



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If you want to be objective start by trying to read the mental health diagnosis manual accurately. What does this say you dumb Bingos?

What is Gender Dysphoria?

It is important to note that gender identity is different from gender expression. Whereas gender identity refers to one’s psychological sense of their gender, gender expression refers to the way in which one presents to the world in a gendered way. For example, in much of the U.S., wearing a dress is considered a “feminine” gender expression, and wearing a tuxedo is considered a “masculine” gender expression. Such expectations are culturally defined and vary across time and culture. One’s gender expression does not necessarily align with their gender identity. Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.

 

[San Souci]

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Look at how much they "treat" with absolutely NO objective diagnosis, including most mental illness.

They're ghouls



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Yep. Use MALE Hormones on these sissy boys when they reach puberty. Just a bit. And intense Psychotherapy. The Object of Psychotherapy usta be to help people adjust to what they ARE. Not to enhance their delusions.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

A judge with zero common sense

 

[toobfreak]

Honest to gosh, these sad freaks actually believe that not calling them by their preferred pronouns is tantamount to killing them. How much more dead can they get if we deny them their mutilation?

I wonder how they would feel if I announced that I was Viceroy of the French Navy then demanded under
threat of force of law to denounce, harass and prosecute them if they didn't share in my delusion?

 

[Scoutster]

Trump should ignore this.

There are more than six hundred federal judges and each seems to think they have the power to unilaterally make nationwide rulings that prevent the president from exercising the executive power. How to react to this level of delusions of grandeur if one is not trained in psychiatric interventions?

By ignoring them.

 

[martybegan]

Well that's not true.

So you support Trump's EO on restricting puberty blockers, hormones, and surgery for children under 18?

 

[martybegan]

No there isn't any law that says "pay 59 million to NYC for hotel rooms for illegal migrants," of course.

But Subpart B (iv) of Section 1557 of the ACA prohibits discrimination with federal funding to hospitals based on gender identity. That alone would disqualify the EO. Clear language.

I'm afraid Trump will fail. He still needs Congress.

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All well and good for adults, says nothing about minors.