Judge rules deportation was “an illegal act”

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Their countries of origin wouldn't take them back.

Prove that. I will tell you right now, you can't.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Prove that. I will tell you right now, you can't.

Easy peasy

Map shows which countries refuse to take back deported migrants

President-elect Donald Trump could face blocks to his plans to remove millions of illegal immigrants from countries around the world.

www.newsweek.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Easy peasy

Map shows which countries refuse to take back deported migrants

President-elect Donald Trump could face blocks to his plans to remove millions of illegal immigrants from countries around the world.

www.newsweek.com

Now you accept newsweek. Give an honest source.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Newsweek is as left as they come.

Dylan Mulvaney Wins Woman of the Year Award​

Dylan Mulvaney wins Woman of the Year award

"I'm so honored to be here with you all tonight, and some see me as the woman of the year," Mulvaney said after receiving the award from Attitude magazine.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Mack The Finger]

Now we're getting somewhere.

We sure are !

The Maryland father is on is way back but I think he is heading to Tennessee...for some reason.
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[Rigby5]

A federal judge doesn't have the ability to force El Salvador to deport up one of their own citizens.

Judge Xinis has zero authority over what Presidente Bukele does.

Although if Garcia is indeed innocent, his own people in his own country can make an appeal to their own court system.

Wrong.
Since a US judge had issued a protective order in 2019, it was illegal for ICE to deport him, and it was illegal for El Salvador to accept him.
In fact, the mega prisons in El Salvador violate international law and the Geneva Conventions, as well as US law.
He is not legally under El Salvador jurisdiction, once the US judge issued the protective order.

 

[struth]

Wrong.
Since a US judge had issued a protective order in 2019, it was illegal for ICE to deport him, and it was illegal for El Salvador to accept him.
In fact, the mega prisons in El Salvador violate international law and the Geneva Conventions, as well as US law.
He is not legally under El Salvador jurisdiction, once the US judge issued the protective order.

A US judge didn’t issue a protective order in 2019

 

[toobfreak]

a US judge had issued a protective order in 2019,

And judges do crazy, stupid and wrong shit all of the time (sometimes even corrupt and illegal stuff), that is why we have court after court above them to review, reverse and overturn them.

Just because one dude "ruled" something does not make it an act of God.

 

[forkup]

A US judge didn’t issue a protective order in 2019

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Last 3 pages. Taken directly from the DOJ. The fact that you claim it doesn't exist makes you uninformed or more likely a liar.

 

[toobfreak]

The fact that you claim it doesn't exist makes you uninformed or more likely a liar.

Are you saying Garcia is in danger INSIDE CECOT?

No matter. His personal problems do not give him the right to come here human trafficking people and other crimes. Maybe if the asshole judge had thought of it, the threat of being shipped back onto the streets of San Salvador might have been impetus for Garcia to keep his nose clean here.

The USA is not here to worry about keeping the rest of the world's people safe.

More to the point, Garcia's crimes in Tennessee came after that ruling--- ultimately, consequences for your crimes cannot be a defense nor excuse against prosecution for them, otherwise, every person sent to prison who ever lost their house unable to keep up with the bills has a likewise case.

 

[forkup]

And judges do crazy, stupid and wrong shit all of the time (sometimes even corrupt and illegal stuff), that is why we have court after court above them to review, reverse and overturn them.

Just because one dude "ruled" something does not make it an act of God.

Problem is this wasn't overturned it was ignored. Hence the controversy. I don't give a shit about Abrego. He might be a gang member he might not be. So far the evidence provided would not get him convicted in an American court imo. Tattoos and an informant provided by a corrupt cop, (suspended for getting sexual favors for leniency on sex workers.) The point is, that when a judge rules. The government can't simply ignore those rulings because they rather not.

And the government shouldn't, both ethically and legally deport immigrants to a foreign prison without actually establishing they are you know... criminals. The fact that you guys seem to be perfectly ok with this is mind boggling. What you guys have done is the equivalent to opening up concentration camps for undesirables. Just not on US soil. And celebrating the deed in the process.

 

[forkup]

Are you saying Garcia is in danger INSIDE CECOT?

No matter. His personal problems do not give him the right to come here human trafficking people and other crimes. Maybe if the asshole judge had thought of it, the threat of being shipped back onto the streets of San Salvador might have been impetus for Garcia to keep his nose clean here.

The USA is not here to worry about keeping the rest of the world's people safe.

More to the point, Garcia's crimes in Tennessee came after that ruling--- ultimately, consequences for your crimes cannot be a defense nor excuse against prosecution for them, otherwise, every person sent to prison who ever lost their house unable to keep up with the bills has a likewise case.

Since the state of emergency was instituted, over 350 people have died in El Salvador’s prisons Human Rights Watch declaration on prison conditions in El Salvador for the J.G.G. v. Trump case

You don't?

 

[GLASNOST]

Since a US judge had issued a protective order in 2019, it was illegal for ICE to deport him ...

If it's true, I understand it.

... and it was illegal for El Salvador to accept him.

This I do not understand. A US judge cannot introduce laws in another nation.

 

[toobfreak]

The point is, that when a judge rules. The government can't simply ignore those rulings

The point is, judges do not have absolute power and no appointed small court local district judge has the authority to set national policy overriding a presidential directive.

That is the only point.

And change is coming.

As to your concentration camp for undesirables comment: you can thank Joe Biden for that.

Where were all these jackhole judges saying not a single world for four fucking years looking the other way while Biden ignored his primary function, waved millions of illegals in his wide open border, bringing them in by bus and plane and setting them up in posh hotels to downtown NY city.

If I had my way, all illegals refusing to self-deport now would be rounded up and shot, then sold for processing to dog food companies.

We are dealing with mass invasion and foreign occupation by a foreign army which has openly admitted their intent is to reclaim America for themselves--- in times of war and crisis, you can do almost anything, just ask Anthony Fauci.

 

[struth]

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Last 3 pages. Taken directly from the DOJ. The fact that you claim it doesn't exist makes you uninformed or more likely a liar.

The last three pages are a bond order. Not a protective order

An order denying bond I might add.

 

[toobfreak]

Since the state of emergency was instituted, over 350 people have died in El Salvador’s prisons

If that is even true, then I guess El Salvador has a problem to solve.

Meantime, where were you when:

1. 300,000 children all went missing under Biden---- crickets.
2. 80,000 Americans died each year from Chinese/Mexican fentanyl Biden let in---- crickets.
3. Vets being kicked out in the streets to make room for illegally bused in undocumented illegals by Biden---- crickets.
4. Untold number of Americans robbed, attacked and murdered by illegal aliens---- crickets.

But let one poor illegal human trafficker boy named Garcia get pinched and sent home, and you are all up with fears and concern!

Says about all I need to know about you.

 

[forkup]

The point is, judges do not have absolute power and no appointed small court local district judge has the authority to set national policy overriding a presidential directive.

That is the only point.

And change is coming.

As to your concentration camp for undesirables comment: you can thank Joe Biden for that.

Where were all these jackhole judges saying not a single world for four fucking years looking the other way while Biden ignored his primary function, waved millions of illegals in his wide open border, bringing them in by bus and plane and setting them up in posh hotels to downtown NY city.

If I had my way, all illegals refusing to self-deport now would be rounded up and shot, then sold for processing to dog food companies.

We are dealing with mass invasion and foreign occupation by a foreign army which has openly admitted their intent is to reclaim America for themselves--- in times of war and crisis, you can do almost anything, just ask Anthony Fauci.

No amount of whataboutisms will help you.

And this post betrays why the accusations and comparisons to Hitler are not overblown. Replace immigrants invading with, Jews weakening German blood and your sentiment of simply shooting the undesirables could be taken from the mouth of Hitler.


The fact that I'm sure this sentiment is shared by a large part of the MAGA crowd. Not to mention, if not explicitly stated then at least signaled as the way forward by the executive branch is scary as hell.

Trump and your ilk have taken the US to a very dark place.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A federal judge doesn't have the ability to force El Salvador to deport up one of their own citizens.

Judge Xinis has zero authority over what Presidente Bukele does.

Although if Garcia is indeed innocent, his own people in his own country can make an appeal to their own court system.

No, but they do have the authority over Trump, and Trump can tell El Salvador it wants the guy back, or else.

 

[forkup]

If that is even true, then I guess El Salvador has a problem to solve.

Meantime, where were you when:

1. 300,000 children all went missing under Biden---- crickets.
2. 80,000 Americans died each year from Chinese/Mexican fentanyl Biden let in---- crickets.
3. Vets being kicked out in the streets to make room for illegally bused in undocumented illegals by Biden---- crickets.
4. Untold number of Americans robbed, attacked and murdered by illegal aliens---- crickets.

But let one poor illegal human trafficker boy named Garcia get pinched and sent home, and you are all up with fears and concern!

Says about all I need to know about you.

More whataboutisms. I don't need to defend anything Biden did. Although most of what you say I can't even begin to put in a context. I'm not plugged in to the Fox news outrage machine.

And again I'm not concerned about Garcia perse. And no it's not just one. It's thousands of who Garcia is simply one.

I'm concerned about the Executive branch ignoring orders from the judicial branch. I'm concerned with a willingness to ignore due process and jailing people abroad in a place that doesn't care about the basis of human rights.

And most of all I'm concerned with people like you defending it. Since that means that you are condition yourself to accepting that these things are morally justified.

To you illegals aren't humans anymore and deserve no compassion. And the laws that protect both them and you are simply obstacles to be discarded when inconvenient.

 

[toobfreak]

The last three pages are a bond order. Not a protective order
An order denying bond I might add

Add to that, we have nothing but Garcia's own word that returning to El Salvador might be dangerous to him.

That is his tough luck.

Maybe he should not have come here illegally and committed felony crimes.