Judge Challenges Prosecution Bullshit at Manafort Trial

[Lysistrata]

You have never said why the prosecution in Manafort's trial is bogus. Not a word. Again, why do you love manafort so much? Do you know him and know his character?

The prosecution here is bogus because it has nothing to do with trump.......

Yawn

It's up to you to explain it. Prosecutors do not go to court without sufficient evidence. Is manafort guilty of what he has been charged with or not? If manafort's doings have something to do with trump, shouldn't the American People know about it? What is to be hidden from the public?

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

 

[bripat9643]

The prosecution here is bogus because it has nothing to do with trump.......

Yawn

It's up to you to explain it. Prosecutors do not go to court without sufficient evidence. Is manafort guilty of what he has been charged with or not? If manafort's doings have something to do with trump, shouldn't the American People know about it? What is to be hidden from the public?

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

Watch the news, moron.

 

[Lysistrata]

I do, moron.

It's up to you to explain it. Prosecutors do not go to court without sufficient evidence. Is manafort guilty of what he has been charged with or not? If manafort's doings have something to do with trump, shouldn't the American People know about it? What is to be hidden from the public?

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

Watch the news, moron.

I do, moron.

 

[Skylar]

The judge in this case is protecting Manafords right to a speedy trial. He rules on what evidence is permitted. What you are talking about is if procedural mistakes are made, evidence is been tampered with or something else egregious. Not something like to much evidence, what he considers irrelevant to the case being prosecuted. I have a question.Will you accept Manaford being convicted in this trial? Or will you then site perceived bias as a reason to not accept the verdict?

Manafort’s rights are being abused.
The prosecutor is presenting false testimony.
If they somehow get a conviction, it's only for show.
It will be overturned on appeal.

No the prosecution is presenting evidence that the judge ruled as irrelevant, big difference. Overturned on which grounds? The prosecution was to thorough in presenting their case?

And the key point of contention was the testimony of Gates. The judge said gates needed to testify for the prosecution to prove its charge of conspiracy.

Which is only one of roughly a dozen charges.

And Gates testified.

Manaforts lawyers openly admitted in their opening statement that there is millions in unreported income. Why defend this guy?

Gates is a worm.

You are saying that Gates has lied on the stand and that you somehow know the truth of the matter. How do you know? Were you in on it?

He doesn't. He imagines.

They've got Manafort in emails raging about his tax bill and insisting on meetings with Gates to discuss it. Despite Manafort insisting that he didn't know anything about the taxes and was completely hands off.

Manafort lied.

They've got Manaforts accountant saying that Manafort was intimately involved in all financial dealings. They've got loan officers affirming that personally Manafort lied to them about properties he owned.

With Manafort already admitting that there are million of dollars in unreported income. But that its not his fault because he wasn't involved in the financial dealings.

Gates, Manafort's accountants, Manafort's loan officers, Manafort's emails all affirm that this is a blatant lie.

And yet conservatives *STILL* insist that the investigation should be shut down, the charges be dismissed. They will gladly set criminals free if they're told to on twitter.

These aren't people that are prone to burdens like.....thinking.

 

[koshergrl]

I do, moron.

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

Watch the news, moron.

I do, moron.

Bode has a different definition of *scumbag* than the rest o fus.

 

[Skylar]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

The fact is that the judge could throw the case out if the prosecution violates manafort's rights. Forcing an end, or a new trial

The judge in this case is protecting Manafords right to a speedy trial. He rules on what evidence is permitted. What you are talking about is if procedural mistakes are made, evidence is been tampered with or something else egregious. Not something like to much evidence, what he considers irrelevant to the case being prosecuted. I have a question.Will you accept Manaford being convicted in this trial? Or will you then site perceived bias as a reason to not accept the verdict?

Prosecution needs to move beyond political grandstanding.

Oh, they did. They have documents that Manafort lied, his accountant affirming Manafort lied, his loan officer. They've got emails demonstrating Manafort lied.

And Manafort already admitted to *millions* in unreported income.

The judge actually apologized to the prosecution today.

 

[Bush92]

....and that ball is back,back,back, GONE!

Sure, it would take a Trump supporter to believe a reply to something Trump did is best answered by something you guys claim Obama and Hilary did. It makes sense I guess. If you don't have an actual argument to provide, a logical fallacy works in a pinch.

it's called irony.

Please provide me with quotes. When have you caught me on a logical fallacy? Not saying I never have but I want you to point it out for me.

do you know what irony is?

I think I misunderstood your post. So you weren't saying that me giving the argument is a logical fallacy but rather the argument itself is to point out the irony? This would be true if the claim is true and an actual counterargument was provided. It wasn't though. You call it irony, I call it an Appeal to hypocrisy
To me it's plain old lazy.

Your logical fallacy is that Hillary Clinton lost a constitutional democratic election and that the Manafort trial...born out of Mueller investigation...is a sideshow in the ongoing effort to “get Trump.” Your just another ignorant Trump hater.

 

[Bush92]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

It is a political sideshow born out of Mueller investigation. Manafort will be found “not guilty.”

 

[Bush92]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

The fact is that the judge could throw the case out if the prosecution violates manafort's rights. Forcing an end, or a new trial

The judge in this case is protecting Manafords right to a speedy trial. He rules on what evidence is permitted. What you are talking about is if procedural mistakes are made, evidence is been tampered with or something else egregious. Not something like to much evidence, what he considers irrelevant to the case being prosecuted. I have a question.Will you accept Manaford being convicted in this trial? Or will you then site perceived bias as a reason to not accept the verdict?

You want to crucify Manafort because of his connection to Donald J. Trump 2016 victory...but this same shit goes on everyday in business world and does not receive any attention. Why? Because they didn’t support Trump. I can assure you that big time Clinton $$$ supporters didn’t pay their taxes either.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

So right wingers shouldn't have to obey the law?

What does Manafort’s obeying or not obeying of the law in 2005 have to do with allegations that Trump colluded with Russians in 2016?

 

[Bush92]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

So right wingers shouldn't have to obey the law?

What does Manafort’s obeying or not obeying of the law in 2005 have to do with allegations that Trump colluded with Russians in 2016?

Thank you. Because he was connected with Trump 2016...liberals are using trial to cast a cloud of illegitimacy over the President of the United States who leads our country.

 

[DrLove]

Can I pass you a virtual tissue? Tell us how proper protocol was not followed.This is how anyone gets arrested at home. I'm sorry for his family, if they didn't know what their husband/father was doing. But this is how it's done. SOP. Tell us how manafort was treated any worse than anyone else in his situation.
BTW: the authorities do the same thing at other households, even minority households.

This happened at my home once, the local dick banged on my front door with his fist, my 45 was pointed right at him thru the door. If he came in he was ketchup, he told me that someone told him that I was in a robbery, then I kicked him out while in my underwear. The uniformed cops held back laughter to the dick.

Means nothing, except that some ass will say it never happened....

None of that had to do with trump however, though duller can investigate

Well you must be the Queen ******* Bee
Jesus Rosy - get a damn LIFE!!

Thank you for the complement...………...MAGA

MAGA you in the ass.
Lube uP!!

Now now lets not be hateful like Maxine Waters.

MAGA

 

[jc456]

The prosecution here is bogus because it has nothing to do with trump.......

Yawn

It's up to you to explain it. Prosecutors do not go to court without sufficient evidence. Is manafort guilty of what he has been charged with or not? If manafort's doings have something to do with trump, shouldn't the American People know about it? What is to be hidden from the public?

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

indictments that have nothing to do with russia russia and ruining people's life like Flynn, Paige, and others made to fork out money for legal bills for nothing.

 

[jc456]

This happened at my home once, the local dick banged on my front door with his fist, my 45 was pointed right at him thru the door. If he came in he was ketchup, he told me that someone told him that I was in a robbery, then I kicked him out while in my underwear. The uniformed cops held back laughter to the dick.

Means nothing, except that some ass will say it never happened....

None of that had to do with trump however, though duller can investigate

Well you must be the Queen ******* Bee
Jesus Rosy - get a damn LIFE!!

Thank you for the complement...………...MAGA

MAGA you in the ass.
Lube uP!!

Now now lets not be hateful like Maxine Waters.

MAGA

well at least Putin wants to make america great! obviously not you.

 

[Lysistrata]

It's up to you to explain it. Prosecutors do not go to court without sufficient evidence. Is manafort guilty of what he has been charged with or not? If manafort's doings have something to do with trump, shouldn't the American People know about it? What is to be hidden from the public?

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

indictments that have nothing to do with russia russia and ruining people's life like Flynn, Paige, and others made to fork out money for legal bills for nothing.

Some substance is necessary here. What do you know that the rest of us don't know? Or are you just a trump worshiper?

 

[jc456]

You keep telling us to trust Mueller when we have absolutely no reason to trust him. What typical prosecutors do has nothing to do with Muellers behavior.

If you have hidden something from the public, shouldn't we spend 30 million prosecuting you and everyone you know to get at the truth?

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

indictments that have nothing to do with russia russia and ruining people's life like Flynn, Paige, and others made to fork out money for legal bills for nothing.

Some substance is necessary here. What do you know that the rest of us don't know? Or are you just a trump worshiper?

some substance? like what? name one indictment that was for russia russia interference. one? Name one that shows the trump campaign did anything. can you? I'll wait. it will take my lifetime cause there isn't any.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why don't you trust Mueller? He has an impeccable background. Yet you trust the jackass in the oval office whose entire history is one of being a stupid whore and a conman.

He's obviously a scumbag. He's not even investigating "collusion." He staffed his investigation with a bunch of Trump haters. He's using every sleazy tactic in the book.

And your proof of this is exactly what?

indictments that have nothing to do with russia russia and ruining people's life like Flynn, Paige, and others made to fork out money for legal bills for nothing.

Some substance is necessary here. What do you know that the rest of us don't know? Or are you just a trump worshiper?

some substance? like what? name one indictment that was for russia russia interference. one? Name one that shows the trump campaign did anything. can you? I'll wait. it will take my lifetime cause there isn't any.

So why are you so upset about manafort, flynn, paige? What itches you? I think that Mueller's investigation will yield a lot down the road. Why do you suck up to trump? Why do you worship him?

 

[Skylar]

Sure, it would take a Trump supporter to believe a reply to something Trump did is best answered by something you guys claim Obama and Hilary did. It makes sense I guess. If you don't have an actual argument to provide, a logical fallacy works in a pinch.

it's called irony.

Please provide me with quotes. When have you caught me on a logical fallacy? Not saying I never have but I want you to point it out for me.

do you know what irony is?

I think I misunderstood your post. So you weren't saying that me giving the argument is a logical fallacy but rather the argument itself is to point out the irony? This would be true if the claim is true and an actual counterargument was provided. It wasn't though. You call it irony, I call it an Appeal to hypocrisy
To me it's plain old lazy.

Your logical fallacy is that Hillary Clinton lost a constitutional democratic election and that the Manafort trial...born out of Mueller investigation...is a sideshow in the ongoing effort to “get Trump.” Your just another ignorant Trump hater.

I don't think that 'logical fallacy' means what you think it means. The Manafort trial is born out of the overwhelming evidence that Manafort commited multiple serious crimes.

Notice you're not debating the evidence against Manafort. Which is smart.....as Manafort has already admitted to *millions* in unreported income.

 

[Skylar]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

So right wingers shouldn't have to obey the law?

What does Manafort’s obeying or not obeying of the law in 2005 have to do with allegations that Trump colluded with Russians in 2016?

Thank you. Because he was connected with Trump 2016...liberals are using trial to cast a cloud of illegitimacy over the President of the United States who leads our country.

Notice that you're not arguing against Manafort's crimes. Or the overwhelming evidence that he did commit crimes.

Which is smart. Best avoid that topic like the plague.

 

[AntonToo]

Manafort will be found “not guilty.”

Wow, you are totally out to lunch.

So wrong, so often is tough to explain except by a severe disconnect with reality.