Johnson’s ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns after Partygate grilling

[Tommy Tainant]

Boris Johnson’s ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns after Partygate grilling

Geidt said: ‘I feel that it is right that I am resigning from my post’ after questions over whether PM broke ministerial code

www.theguardian.com

This the second advisor he has lost in 2 years. The first one resigned after Johnson decided to ignore his advice.

The latest one has resigned over Johnsons breach of the ministerial code. A resigning matter before Johnson rewrote the code a couple of weeks ago.

A clear indication of the depth that this tory government has taken us to. A law breaking government led by a law breaker trashing our laws and our reputation abroad.

 

[okfine]

Boris Johnson’s ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns after Partygate grilling

Geidt said: ‘I feel that it is right that I am resigning from my post’ after questions over whether PM broke ministerial code

www.theguardian.com

This the second advisor he has lost in 2 years. The first one resigned after Johnson decided to ignore his advice.

The latest one has resigned over Johnsons breach of the ministerial code. A resigning matter before Johnson rewrote the code a couple of weeks ago.

A clear indication of the depth that this tory government has taken us to. A law breaking government led by a law breaker trashing our laws and our reputation abroad.

We had the same problem here in the States from 2016 to 2020.

 

[Lastamender]

Boris Johnson’s ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns after Partygate grilling

Geidt said: ‘I feel that it is right that I am resigning from my post’ after questions over whether PM broke ministerial code

www.theguardian.com

This the second advisor he has lost in 2 years. The first one resigned after Johnson decided to ignore his advice.

The latest one has resigned over Johnsons breach of the ministerial code. A resigning matter before Johnson rewrote the code a couple of weeks ago.

A clear indication of the depth that this tory government has taken us to. A law breaking government led by a law breaker trashing our laws and our reputation abroad.

Trouble on the shithole island. Oh no!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Trouble on the shithole island. Oh no!

Populist politicians cause chaos wherever they go.

 

[Lastamender]

Populist politicians cause chaos wherever they go.

Even in shitholes? Thanks for your input.

 

[Dekster]

Out with the old, in with the new (i.e. people who don't have first hand knowledge to testify about).

Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Labour still won't win parliament next go round. They have become the party of the white, educated elite who look down their noses at people who actually do labor for a living.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Out with the old, in with the new (i.e. people who don't have first hand knowledge to testify about).

Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Labour still won't win parliament next go round. They have become the party of the white, educated elite who look down their noses at people who actually do labor for a living.

Most people are appalled at the culture current in Downing St. Its just a matter of whether you have high personal standards or not. If you havent got high standards \Johnsson is looking for a new Ethics Advisor.

 

[Likkmee]

Boris Johnson’s ethics adviser Lord Geidt resigns after Partygate grilling

Geidt said: ‘I feel that it is right that I am resigning from my post’ after questions over whether PM broke ministerial code

www.theguardian.com

This the second advisor he has lost in 2 years. The first one resigned after Johnson decided to ignore his advice.

The latest one has resigned over Johnsons breach of the ministerial code. A resigning matter before Johnson rewrote the code a couple of weeks ago.

A clear indication of the depth that this tory government has taken us to. A law breaking government led by a law breaker trashing our laws and our reputation abroad.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Johnson now saying he may not appoint a third ethics advisor. He probably would struggle to fill the post.

 

[Dekster]

Most people are appalled at the culture current in Downing St. Its just a matter of whether you have high personal standards or not. If you havent got high standards \Johnsson is looking for a new Ethics Advisor.

Illustrating my point there, Tommy. So thanks. Tell Keir hello next time you guys are having a curry lunch to share your high personal standards.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Illustrating my point there, Tommy. So thanks. Tell Keir hello next time you guys are having a curry lunch to share your high personal standards.

You just prefer johnson for some reason. Either you really like him, which tells me all about you. Or you are just on a wind up ,which is no problem at all.

 

[Dekster]

You just prefer johnson for some reason. Either you really like him, which tells me all about you. Or you are just on a wind up ,which is no problem at all.

I don't like him or hate him. I just accept the reality that 1) he is prime minister 2) he will remain prime minister for the foreseeable future and 3) Labour is a dumpster fire of a party. The conservatives have only been right on Brexit, but that is one more thing than Labour has been right on in quite a long time.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I don't like him or hate him. I just accept the reality that 1) he is prime minister 2) he will remain prime minister for the foreseeable future and 3) Labour is a dumpster fire of a party. The conservatives have only been right on Brexit, but that is one more thing than Labour has been right on in quite a long time.

Brexit is a living disaster which has wrecked our economy. And it has not even been sorted,hence the ongoing disaster in northern Ireland

 

[Dekster]

Brexit is a living disaster which has wrecked our economy. And it has not even been sorted,hence the ongoing disaster in northern Ireland

Details to be sorted. The alternative would have been England being swallowed into an integrated EU where your Wales would have become the West Virginia of Europe.

 

[alexa]

Details to be sorted. The alternative would have been England being swallowed into an integrated EU where your Wales would have become the West Virginia of Europe.

No it wouldn't. The UK had already been told it could stay outside of that.

 

[alexa]

Out with the old, in with the new (i.e. people who don't have first hand knowledge to testify about).

Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Labour still won't win parliament next go round. They have become the party of the white, educated elite who look down their noses at people who actually do labor for a living.

Interesting. Starmer is not left wing...but nonetheless interesting that you see current Labour as the party of the white educated elite. First, Starmer has got rid of as many left wing members as he can find so Labour is not a left wing Party which I know you haven't said. How I see the set up is that the Labour Party and the left wing of the Tory Party are pretty much the same. I read it described once as them belonging to the bankers unlike the right of the Tories who rely on the hedgefunders. The left of the Tory and Labour believe in things like human rights and trying to give people some sense of value as our standard of living goes down and down which is going to happen. They are against prejudices and for people experiencing punishment for them. Now about the right of the Tory Party who it would seem you support and the 'white, educated elite who look down their noses at people who actually do labor for a living'. The right of the Tories totally use these people whether they are working class boys who leave school without learning or any one else. These people are in the main the far right who grew in the wc after Labour under Blair forsook them after Thatcher. Many of them for a short while went with the BNP till it was finished. In some ways you could describe that as a crafty move that the Right of the Tories are cashing in on and it does affect the majority of wc though they are divided within themselves. There is the wc who believe in respecting others of different 'race' religion etc and of course there are the minorities who themselves are part of the wc. Labour does not serve these people. The elite of Labour do not know their needs. If you work with the people who are destroying the values of this country, who are Eton survivors and using you, you are of course free to do it but I have a feeling it is not in your best interest.

 

[Dekster]

Interesting. Starmer is not left wing...but nonetheless interesting that you see current Labour as the party of the white educated elite. First, Starmer has got rid of as many left wing members as he can find so Labour is not a left wing Party which I know you haven't said. How I see the set up is that the Labour Party and the left wing of the Tory Party are pretty much the same. I read it described once as them belonging to the bankers unlike the right of the Tories who rely on the hedgefunders. The left of the Tory and Labour believe in things like human rights and trying to give people some sense of value as our standard of living goes down and down which is going to happen. They are against prejudices and for people experiencing punishment for them. Now about the right of the Tory Party who it would seem you support and the 'white, educated elite who look down their noses at people who actually do labor for a living'. The right of the Tories totally use these people whether they are working class boys who leave school without learning or any one else. These people are in the main the far right who grew in the wc after Labour under Blair forsook them after Thatcher. Many of them for a short while went with the BNP till it was finished. In some ways you could describe that as a crafty move that the Right of the Tories are cashing in on and it does affect the majority of wc though they are divided within themselves. There is the wc who believe in respecting others of different 'race' religion etc and of course there are the minorities who themselves are part of the wc. Labour does not serve these people. The elite of Labour do not know their needs. If you work with the people who are destroying the values of this country, who are Eton survivors and using you, you are of course free to do it but I have a feeling it is not in your best interest.

Relative to the conservatives, Labour is center-left. Starmer can try to craft them into the Blair 2.0 Party by driving out the Socialists, but in the end he just weakens his streamlined party. The conservatives will be the party controlling the reigns for around a generation still as that is how long it will likely take the lib dems to move up from being a lady in waiting to the true Opposition party. It would be in the best interest of his party if Sir Ed just avoided getting into bed with Labour as a matter of immediate convenience and work to have a clear independent presence, platform, and agenda. Until then, sure the Tories and Labour will play the poor and working class people in equal measure. It is the fate of pawns to be pawned.

 

[Dekster]

No it wouldn't. The UK had already been told it could stay outside of that.

Well in addition to the $25B they still owe the EU, the UK will be paying their staff pension benefits forever and a day, so staying "outside of that" does not seem to have been the case.

 

[alexa]

Well in addition to the $25B they still owe the EU, the UK will be paying their staff pension benefits forever and a day, so staying "outside of that" does not seem to have been the case.

You were talking about your fear that the UK would have become further integrated within the EU had it stayed in. This was one of the fears expressed by the Brexeters but it was a false fear as Cameron had already dealt with it.

David Cameron has struck a deal with other EU leaders over Britain’s future in Europe after marathon talks in Brussels.

"I have negotiated a deal to give the United Kingdom special status inside the European Union," Mr Cameron said in a press conference shortly after the end of talks, adding that he would update Cabinet at 10am this morning.


"Britain will be permanently out of 'ever closer union'," he said, adding that there would be "tough new restrictions on access to our welfare system for EU migrants", and that Britain would "never join the euro".[/quote}

David Cameron strikes deal with EU leaders over British demands in Europe

Donald Tusk announces the deal after more than 24 hours of agonising discussions over British demands

www.independent.co.uk

I don't deny that Gov for the Brexeters denied this. The beginning of the UK saying that bacon was cabbage, the beginning of the end of any kind of honest talk in the UK but the deal was done.

 

[alexa]

Relative to the conservatives, Labour is center-left.

Relative to the right wing of the Tories Labour is Centre Left.

Starmer can try to craft them into the Blair 2.0 Party by driving out the Socialists, but in the end he just weakens his streamlined party.

He has indeed weakened his own party by getting rid of the left and it is for that that people believe his chances of being PM are little. People say he will never be able to get the 'red wall' back.

My own feeling is that Labour, in moving away from its roll of supporting those workers you spoke of has given rise to the division of the WC and in that taken away their power.

The conservatives will be the party controlling the reigns for around a generation still as that is how long it will likely take the lib dems to move up from being a lady in waiting to the true Opposition party. It would be in the best interest of his party if Sir Ed just avoided getting into bed with Labour as a matter of immediate convenience and work to have a clear independent presence, platform, and agenda. Until then, sure the Tories and Labour will play the poor and working class people in equal measure. It is the fate of pawns to be pawned.

While I think Starmer should be kicked out due to not keeping any of his promises which got him elected leader and that in that he has weakened the Labour Party who themselves were divided some thinking it was more important to make sure Corbyn was not elected than to be in power, Labour does have other people who could move up to a Leadership position and kick the Tories out. We are going to see hell in the next few years both financially and our beginning to feel the effects of climate change. I don't think anyone could really guess what the situation will be in even five years. Do you like the Lib Dems?