Johns Hopkins: More gun control needed to prevent second civil war

[Dagosa]

o argument about that. Remember Obama and “Fast and Furious?”

More made up shit. They didn’t provide any firearms for the cartelle. ….none nada, nix.
But, you just keep on lying.

 

[2aguy]

More made up shit. They didn’t provide any firearms for the cartelle. ….none nada, nix.
But, you just keep on lying.

Yes, they did.....they told guns stores to make sales the gun stores had reported to the ATF were straw buys...you lying clod......

 

[Batcat]

More made up shit. They didn’t provide any firearms for the cartelle. ….none nada, nix.
But, you just keep on lying.

Fast and furious was a big scandal for the Obama administration. It was not “made up shit.”

A primer on the "Fast and Furious" scandal

A primer on the Justice Department's controversial gun-tracking program

www.cbsnews.com

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obama’s “Fast and Furious” Gun-running Scandal Grows

The “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal is back in the news after the Justice Department inspector general criticized a government leak intended to smear a key ATF whistleblower. by Alex Newman

thenewamerican.com

 

[Dagosa]

Fast and furious was a big scandal for the Obama administration. It was not “made up shit.”

A primer on the "Fast and Furious" scandal

A primer on the Justice Department's controversial gun-tracking program

www.cbsnews.com

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obama’s “Fast and Furious” Gun-running Scandal Grows

The “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal is back in the news after the Justice Department inspector general criticized a government leak intended to smear a key ATF whistleblower. by Alex Newman

thenewamerican.com

yup.
Wrong as usual.
itcwas an effort to track firearms export to Mexico that failed. Oh who was engaged in the actual export of these firearms to the drug cartel….Americans, gun makers and sellers in private sales. It was nothing more than trying to track them to s Mexican cartel, and losing track of them. It happens in law enforcement. The feds had nothing to do with the distribution and sales.that was done by gun runners. Read it….it was a scandle because you keep repeating it. The suppliers were American gun runners and American gun makers foolish..they are the criminals

 

[Dagosa]

Fast and furious was a big scandal for the Obama administration. It was not “made up shit.”

A primer on the "Fast and Furious" scandal

A primer on the Justice Department's controversial gun-tracking program

www.cbsnews.com

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obama’s “Fast and Furious” Gun-running Scandal Grows

The “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal is back in the news after the Justice Department inspector general criticized a government leak intended to smear a key ATF whistleblower. by Alex Newman

thenewamerican.com

Foolish…during the TRUMP admin and everyother.
“But you have this huge amount of firearms going from the United States to Mexico, estimates are more than 200,000 firearms every year trafficked from the U.S. to Mexico - over 10 years,...”

 

[Delldude]

yup.
Wrong as usual.
itcwas an effort to track firearms export to Mexico that failed. Oh who was engaged in the actual export of these firearms to the drug cartel….Americans, gun makers and sellers in private sales. It was nothing more than trying to track them to s Mexican cartel, and losing track of them. It happens in law enforcement. The feds had nothing to do with the distribution and sales.that was done by gun runners. Read it….it was a scandle because you keep repeating it. The suppliers were American gun runners and American gun makers foolish..they are the criminals

Duh............Obama.............................Eric Holder................Duh.

 

[2aguy]

yup.
Wrong as usual.
itcwas an effort to track firearms export to Mexico that failed. Oh who was engaged in the actual export of these firearms to the drug cartel….Americans, gun makers and sellers in private sales. It was nothing more than trying to track them to s Mexican cartel, and losing track of them. It happens in law enforcement. The feds had nothing to do with the distribution and sales.that was done by gun runners. Read it….it was a scandle because you keep repeating it. The suppliers were American gun runners and American gun makers foolish..they are the criminals

You are lying……they didn’t try to track the guns and when forced gun stores to complete obvious straw purchases….

The gun stores went to the ATF and told them these were straw buys and they were told to complete the sales or they would lose their licenses…,

 

[2aguy]

yup.
Wrong as usual.
itcwas an effort to track firearms export to Mexico that failed. Oh who was engaged in the actual export of these firearms to the drug cartel….Americans, gun makers and sellers in private sales. It was nothing more than trying to track them to s Mexican cartel, and losing track of them. It happens in law enforcement. The feds had nothing to do with the distribution and sales.that was done by gun runners. Read it….it was a scandle because you keep repeating it. The suppliers were American gun runners and American gun makers foolish..they are the criminals

You lying sack of crap…..

Several gun dealers who cooperated with ATF told CBS News and Congressional investigators they only went through with suspicious sales because ATF asked them to.


Sometimes it was against the gun dealer's own best judgment.

Read the email

In April, 2010 a licensed gun dealer cooperating with ATF was increasingly concerned about selling so many guns. "We just want to make sure we are cooperating with ATF and that we are not viewed as selling to the bad guys," writes the gun dealer to ATF Phoenix officials, "(W)e were hoping to put together something like a letter of understanding to alleviate concerns of some type of recourse against us down the road for selling these items."

Read the email

ATF's group supervisor on Fast and Furious David Voth assures the gun dealer there's nothing to worry about. "We (ATF) are continually monitoring these suspects using a variety of investigative techniques which I cannot go into detail."

Two months later, the same gun dealer grew more agitated.

"I wanted to make sure that none of the firearms that were sold per our conversation with you and various ATF agents could or would ever end up south of the border or in the hands of the bad guys. I guess I am looking for a bit of reassurance that the guns are not getting south or in the wrong hands...I want to help ATF with its investigation but not at the risk of agents (sic) safety because I have some very close friends that are US Border Patrol agents in southern AZ as well as my concern for all the agents (sic) safety that protect our country."

Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations

Documents obtained by CBS News show that ATF discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial, new gun reporting requirements

www.cbsnews.com

 

[2aguy]

yup.
Wrong as usual.
itcwas an effort to track firearms export to Mexico that failed. Oh who was engaged in the actual export of these firearms to the drug cartel….Americans, gun makers and sellers in private sales. It was nothing more than trying to track them to s Mexican cartel, and losing track of them. It happens in law enforcement. The feds had nothing to do with the distribution and sales.that was done by gun runners. Read it….it was a scandle because you keep repeating it. The suppliers were American gun runners and American gun makers foolish..they are the criminals

You lying sack of crap….

In the fall of 2009, ATF agents installed a secret phone line and hidden cameras in a ceiling panel and wall at Andre Howard’s Lone Wolf gun store. They gave him one basic instruction: Sell guns to every illegal purchaser who walks through the door.

For 15 months, Howard did as he was told. To customers with phony IDs or wads of cash he normally would have turned away, he sold pistols, rifles and semiautomatics. He was assured by the ATF that they would follow the guns, and that the surveillance would lead the agents to the violent Mexican drug cartels on the Southwest border.

When Howard heard nothing about any arrests, he questioned the agents. Keep selling, they told him. So hundreds of thousands of dollars more in weapons, including .50-caliber sniper rifles, walked out of the front door of his store in a Glendale, Ariz., strip mall.

Gun store owner had misgivings about ATF sting

When federal agents with Operation Fast and Furious told Andre Howard to sell weapons to illegal purchasers, he complied, but he feared someone would get hurt. Then a border agent was shot.

www.latimes.com

 

[Dagosa]

Duh............Obama.............................Eric Holder................Duh.

You’re all dufused out….how about the thousands per year under Trump that were sent over while his DOJ was running the show…Trump….Barr….duh.

 

[Dagosa]

Duh............Obama.............................Eric Holder................Duh.

Here you go..guns going to Mexico under Trump….Barr…dahreached an all time high in 2018 under TRUMP. The idiot.

The flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico is getting lost in the border debate

The Trump administration has not addressed a root cause of the violence that drives the displacement of many families in Mexico and Central America: the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico.

www.pbs.org

 

[The Duke]

Johns Hopkins: More gun control needed to prevent second civil war - Second Amendment Foundation

By Lee Williams A recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control. The 32-page study, which is titled...

saf.org

A recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control.

The 32-page study, which is titled “Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Insurrection,” not only revisits and revises the Jan. 6th protest – even though no protesters were armed and the only casualty was 35-year-old Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by Capitol Police – it resurrects actual armed insurrections from American history, such as Shays’ Rebellion of 1786, the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 and the American Civil War.

The three authors, who are all attorneys with a history of paid anti-gun activism, clumsily raise the insurrection boogeyman to push for additional regulations for carrying firearms, tactical training prohibitions, additional gun-free zones, expanded Red Flag laws and the repeal of state preemption statutes, which has long been a major goal of the gun ban industry. Preemption laws prevent local jurisdictions from enacting their own gun-control regulations, which would result in a patchwork of gun-free zones.

The medical community and everyone in it needs to shut the fuck up on guns, politics, and law.

Study your damn medical shit and be ready to serve people in health care only.

It’s only a “second civil war” if the government wins again. Otherwise it would be the second revolutionary war.

My, how 1938 Germany-ish of them.

 

[Dagosa]

My, how 1938 Germany-ish of them.

Nuff said Marion.

 

[Delldude]

Here you go..guns going to Mexico under Trump….Barr…dahreached an all time high in 2018 under TRUMP. The idiot.

The flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico is getting lost in the border debate

The Trump administration has not addressed a root cause of the violence that drives the displacement of many families in Mexico and Central America: the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico.

www.pbs.org

Pattern was instituted and well established under Obama.............put a Bush policy on steroids and here we are today.

 

[Dagosa]

Pattern was instituted and well established under Obama.............put a Bush policy on steroids and here we are today.

That’s bullshit, we’ve been trafficking guns to Mexico for decades.

Stopping toxic flow of gun traffic from U.S. to Mexico

Mexican officials, Harvard health policy scholars, and Georgetown law professor discuss a landmark lawsuit targeting U.S. firearm firms.

news.harvard.edu

 

[Dagosa]

Pattern was instituted and well established under Obama.............put a Bush policy on steroids and here we are today.

Mexico Is Suing US Gun-makers For Arming Its Gangs—And A US Court Could Award Billions In Damages

This article is part of TPM Cafe, TPM’s home for opinion and news...

talkingpointsmemo.com

 

[2aguy]

Mexico Is Suing US Gun-makers For Arming Its Gangs—And A US Court Could Award Billions In Damages

This article is part of TPM Cafe, TPM’s home for opinion and news...

talkingpointsmemo.com

The only people arming Mexican drug cartels is Obama and the Mexican military….

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Johns Hopkins: More gun control needed to prevent second civil war - Second Amendment Foundation

By Lee Williams A recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control. The 32-page study, which is titled...

saf.org

A recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control.

The 32-page study, which is titled “Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Insurrection,” not only revisits and revises the Jan. 6th protest – even though no protesters were armed and the only casualty was 35-year-old Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by Capitol Police – it resurrects actual armed insurrections from American history, such as Shays’ Rebellion of 1786, the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 and the American Civil War.

The three authors, who are all attorneys with a history of paid anti-gun activism, clumsily raise the insurrection boogeyman to push for additional regulations for carrying firearms, tactical training prohibitions, additional gun-free zones, expanded Red Flag laws and the repeal of state preemption statutes, which has long been a major goal of the gun ban industry. Preemption laws prevent local jurisdictions from enacting their own gun-control regulations, which would result in a patchwork of gun-free zones.

The medical community and everyone in it needs to shut the fuck up on guns, politics, and law.

Study your damn medical shit and be ready to serve people in health care only.

It’s only a “second civil war” if the government wins again. Otherwise it would be the second revolutionary war.

The anti-gunners are saying the quiet part out loud more and more.

 

[Dagosa]

The anti-gunners are saying the quiet part out loud more and more.

Saying what ?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The anti-gunners are saying the quiet part out loud more and more.

And right after they do, they'll tell us we're paranoid.