John Kerry’s big blunder in seeking an Israel-Gaza cease-fire

[Kondor3]

Hamas rockets and tunnels are a joke (no deaths) vs 950 deaths...Israeli neocons are as bad as ours- with THEIR fundie and ignorant nutjobs....

How bout Israelis allowing Gaza trade with the outside world? There are solutions....

Phukk solutions...

It's all been tried before, repeatedly, and it's all failed, repeatedly...

This is now a war...

To the hilt...

Devil take the hindmost...

The tunnels are targeted...

The rocket-launchers are targeted...

Hamas leadership is targeted...

Hamas rank-and-file is targeted...

Want an end to this?

Tell Hamas to run-up a white flag...

While they still can...

 

[Bill Angel]

A Cease Fire Agreement with Hamas an Attractive Proposal?

 

[Kondor3]

Disproportionate casualties?

Yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu bet'cha !

That is how the Good Guys win...

By killing a lot more of the other guy, than they do yours...

Something that the Bad Guys and their sympathizers forget, from time to time, when they see Israel pull-back from a sortie, year after year, and things go back to normal again...

Not this time...

The Bad Guys are now getting a Refresher Lesson on what war is all about...

When you phukk with Israel, once too often...

Welcome to your consequences...

Learn from the lesson, and make a better decision next time, and survive...

Oh... and... get out from behind the skirts of your women and children, pussies...

Damned shame about the civilian casualties... those are never intended... but civilians die, when their own fighters insist on embedding in their midst, under the mistaken impression that it will spare those fighters and war-assets...

How many civilian casualties did the Allies (the US, the UK, the Soviet Union, the French, the Canadians, the Australians, et al) inflict upon Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, in targeting their militaries and war-assets and factories and resources?

This is no different, when it comes to collateral casualties.

The old cowardly dodge of hiding behind their women and children will not save Hamas this time.

Not this time.

This time is different, when it comes to Israeli resolve, to slaughter Hamas, no matter where they are.

As Hamas is discovering, to their very great surprise and peril.

 

[Kondor3]

If the Gazans are going to bring an end to this self-inflicted madness, they must first set the stage for a surrender...

They cannot do this without shaking off present Hamas leadership...

Current Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal lives in Qatar...

Bravely directing the deaths of his countrymen from 1,100 miles away, safe and sound...

Why are the Gazans taking orders from him?

Dump that loser first...

Tell Hamas to either run up the White Flag or step down...

The people of Gaza are going to have to work this one out for themselves...

The sooner they do, the fewer casualties - combatant or civilian - they'll suffer...

Time's-a-wastin'...

 

[Rambunctious]

Barack Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities, in particular airstrikes.

Benjamin Netanyahu: And what will Israel receive in exchange for a ceasefire?

BO: I believe that Hamas will cease its rocket fire — silence will be met with silence.

BN: Hamas broke all five previous ceasefires. It’s a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

BO: I repeat and expect Israel to stop all its military activities unilaterally. The pictures of destruction in Gaza distance the world from Israel’s position.

BN: Kerry’s proposal was completely unrealistic and gives Hamas military and diplomatic advantages.

BO: Within a week of the end of Israel’s military activities, Qatar and Turkey will begin negotiations with Hamas based on the 2012 understandings, including Israel’s commitment to removing the siege and restrictions on Gaza.

BN: Qatar and Turkey are the biggest supporters of Hamas. It’s impossible to rely on them to be fair mediators.

BO: I trust Qatar and Turkey. Israel is not in the position that it can choose its mediators.

BN: I protest because Hamas can continue to launch rockets and use tunnels for terror attacks –

BO: (interrupting Netanyahu) The ball’s in Israel’s court, and it must end all its military activities.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Hamas rockets and tunnels are a joke (no deaths) vs 950 deaths...Israeli neocons are as bad as ours- with THEIR fundie and ignorant nutjobs....

How bout Israelis allowing Gaza trade with the outside world? There are solutions....

A joke? Rockets and tunnel's to attack from are joke to you? You're an idiot.

Gaza had open trade with the world. They used that window of opportunity to build tunnels and ship in rockets for war. Did the building materials go to new homes or shopping or anything useful to the people? No it was used to build tunnels and reinforce Hamas head quarters under a hospital. Every dollar of relief sent to Gaza is used to attack Israel.

30 Jewish deaths so far not zero. But 1,000+ Gazan's. Tells me maybe these fuckwads should stop attacking someone who consistently kicks their asses. You want less Gazan deaths? The solution is drop dead ******* simple. Stop attacking Israel and you won't have any deaths.

 

[tinydancer]

John Kerry’s big blunder in seeking an Israel-Gaza cease-fire

Secretary of State John Kerry has made a significant mistake in how he’s pursuing a Gaza cease-fire — and it’s not surprising that he has upset both the Israelis and some moderate Palestinians.

Kerry’s error has been to put so much emphasis on achieving a quick halt to the bloodshed that he has solidified the role of Hamas, the intractable, unpopular Islamist group that leads Gaza, along with the two hard-line Islamist nations that are its key supporters, Qatar and Turkey.

In the process, he has undercut not simply the Israelis but also the Egyptians and the Fatah movement that runs the Palestinian Authority, all of which want to see an end to Hamas rule in Gaza.

John Kerry?s big blunder in seeking an Israel-Gaza cease-fire - The Washington Post

Obama looks for the easy answer that sides with Hamas instead of the intelligent answer that could appease both sides. It may take more time but in the long run would be the shortest timed answer because it could bring the two sides together. But that would get in the way of his vacations and fundraising.

at this point one can not appease both sides

Israel want to live in peace

while Hamas has devoted itself to killing every Jew

from behind every rock and tree

Exactly. You would think the individuals in this Administration would at least take the time to read the Hamas Charter.

They lay it on the line that only the complete destruction of Israel will cut if for them.

I guess they're just too busy.