John Durham is a gutless coward. After spending TAXPAYER dollars for an investigation of corruption, he's pulling the plug WITHOUT ANY REPORTING!
He's afraid of backlash from a CORRUPT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION that may not ever become a reality. So far, only the MSM and the DNC have created the "Office of President Elect". These people are IDIOTS!
Durham should be fired without retirement pay. Bill Barr should be fired without retirement pay. Both of them are doing nothing more than protecting other swamp creatures in the DOJ.
We should demand to see what he's found before he disappears. I recall his efforts being turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
With all that money he pissed away, we deserve to see some results.
For well over a year now, the Durham investigation has been pumped up as the coming justice for a lo
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If what Obama did, spying on the Trump campaign and transition team with illegal FISA warrants wasn't illegal we need a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of our FISA system.
The F in FISA stands for FOREIGN not Political Opponents. Maybe you thought it was POISA not FISA?
They were surveilling
John Durham is a gutless coward. After spending TAXPAYER dollars for an investigation of corruption, he's pulling the plug WITHOUT ANY REPORTING!
He's afraid of backlash from a CORRUPT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION that may not ever become a reality. So far, only the MSM and the DNC have created the "Office of President Elect". These people are IDIOTS!
Durham should be fired without retirement pay. Bill Barr should be fired without retirement pay. Both of them are doing nothing more than protecting other swamp creatures in the DOJ.
We should demand to see what he's found before he disappears. I recall his efforts being turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
With all that money he pissed away, we deserve to see some results.
For well over a year now, the Durham investigation has been pumped up as the coming justice for a lo
redstate.com
If what Obama did, spying on the Trump campaign and transition team with illegal FISA warrants wasn't illegal we need a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of our FISA system.
The F in FISA stands for FOREIGN not Political Opponents. Maybe you thought it was POISA not FISA?
They were surveilling Russian meddling in 2016 election. Aka their job. But, if in that process, if they heard somebody in trump campaign talking to Russia. That would be responsibility of trump campaign.
Fake News. They surveilled the President by getting a FISA warrant on Carter Page, and then through the 3 hop rule, threw a blanket over the entire Campaign, Transition and Administration. Carter is NOT a foreigner, he is a US Citizen.
An Australian diplomat's tip appears to have helped persuade the FBI to investigate Russian meddling in the U.S. election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign, The New York Times reported.
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just because youre uninformed, doesnt make facts fake.
It was papadopoulus bragging to diplomat.
Which has nothing to do with Carter Page.
Are you claiming that a FISA warrant was obtained on Papadopoulos?
Nope the actual investigation was opened months before the Page FISA warrant
"Collusion" came to the public essentially as a political narrative, which was designed to lead people to believe that there was a cyber-espionage conspiracy between the Russian regime and the Trump campaign designed to influence the outcome of the 2016 campaign with the specific purpose of advancing Donald Trump’s candidacy and undermining Hillary Clinton. This was presented to the public as a political narrative in the aftermath of the 2016 election. And to some extent before the 2016 election, but it was really promoted with urgency afterwards.
It was actually a protextual counter intelligence in that it was really a criminal investigation, but they didn’t have a predicate crime. So the use of the counterintelligence powers of the government allowed the FBI and the Justice Department to look for a crime even though they didn’t have one.
There was no credible evidence of a counterespionage conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. There’s not even that the Trump campaign had the competence, and the wherewithal to be a participant in a cyber-espionage conspiracy. There was never any credible indication that Russia, which is quite expert at cyber-espionage ever wanted or needed the help of any American partners, the Trump campaign, or any campaign. The only thread on which that was built was a claim by a former British intelligence official, Christopher Steele, that there was this enterprise between the Trump campaign and Russia. And that was based on his claim by his own description of it was based on sources of his, some of whom were anonymous, all of whom were two or three or four steps removed from him in a hearsay sense.
And when Steele was sued for libel in Britain, he himself said that this intelligence hadn’t been verified or corroborated and needed to be investigated. Yet this was the “evidence” that the FBI and Justice Department went to the foreign intelligence surveillance court on the basis of, presenting it as verified and corroborated, which was fraudulent. That is not to say that there were no connections between the two sides. What law enforcement and intelligence people are supposed to care about is conspiracy. And there wasn’t any evidence of that.
As for when this investigative fraud began, that goes to the principle public confusion. The fraud posing as an "investigation" may have begun in the latter half of 2015 right around the time that Trump announced his candidacy. Very early on he indicated that he was a skeptic about the utility of NATO and about the post World War Two world order that basically we, and our allies in western Europe have presided over and fortified for the last three quarters of the century. Trump certainly was skeptical about whether, we the United States, we’re getting the value of our investments in NATO. He suggested that many of our allies are free loaders that don’t pay their fair share. We get entangled in too many foreign escapades at the expense of being able to attend to things in our own country and so forth.
Our allies found all of this very alarming. The idea that they would have to pay their fair share and pay what they’ve actually promised to pay into the NATO would put great strain on their budgets, they were quite satisfied with the status quo.
So, clearly his politics threatened a number of well heeled apple carts, but, there was never a factual predicate, or evidence that he was an agent of a foreign power. How in the world can you justify throwing the full weight of our FOREIGN spy and counterintelligence powers against a rival domestic political opponent based on nothing more than mere speculation? There was never hard evidence of traitorous behavior or loyalties to another government that could undermine our government.
Our FISA protections against domestic abuse require more along those lines than mere speculation. These counterintelligence powers that we entrust to the government are awesome powers that are intended to protect the United States from
foreign threats to national security. We had been assured of of a strong presumption against there being used against us in American politics, domestic politics and there’s a long history of this that goes back to the 60s and 70s. The whole reason that we have FISA is because of this potential for misuse and these past episodes of abuse of these intelligence powers.
The thing that needs to be assured is that if you’re going to use counterintelligence authorities in order to investigate people connected to a political campaign, that you better have very strong evidence that there is justification for it. If they’re going to use tactics like going to the
foreign intelligence surveillance court or using informants and operatives to infiltrate political campaigns, then it's quite odd to me that you even doubt that we must have a much stronger basis than just mere speculation, musings that may be nothing more than myth.
The Justice Department's own regulations require investigations to be factually predicated. But, these regulations are written to give the government maximum flexibility so that they can justify virtually anything, presuming that these powers would only be used by those of the highest integrity, sworn individuals completely and totally above reproach. We are deeply reliant on having responsible people in positions of authority, particularly supervisory positions who are mindful of, not only the investigative imperatives, but also the other interests that have to be respected and guarded, particularly keeping political campaigns insulated from the use of intelligence techniques or law enforcement tactics. We are much more reliant on people than on regulations because they write the regulations in a way that that if there’s a problem that they can usually justify themselves.
We had a major abuse of our counterintelligence authority, we had something occur that we had all been assured was "impossible". Our most trusted and highly placed authorities went to the
foreign intelligence surveillance court with a screen of opposition research that hadn’t been verified or corroborated, and came away with a FISA warrant and renewed it 3 times.
When it comes to foreign counterintelligence we’re talking about probable cause if someone is acting as a clandestine agent of a foreign power and that requires vetted facts. That journey may start with something like the dossier, but they’ll go out and get independent evidence for it. They’ll talk to other witnesses, they’ll gather records. By the time they go to the FISA court, this will no longer be Christopher Steele dossier. This will now be an FBI investigation. You’ll never even have to hear Christopher Steele’s name. What ended up happening is what was never supposed to happen. They never verified the information, they never corroborated it, and they concealed from the FISA Court that it was paid for by the Hillary Clinton Campaign.
They convict themselves of being disingenuous by the energy they expended withholding this information that they had the highest duty to disclose. What they filed with the Court is astonishing. They took Steele’s information and they just basically cut and pasted it into FISA submissions or applications which are supposed to be verified applications to the
foreign intelligence surveillance court. Comey was asked by a Senate committee that he was briefing about why they would do that when Steele actually is not the source of any of the facts that the court was being asked to rely on for purposes of probable cause. Steele has not been in Russia for about 20 years. His cover was blown as an intelligence officer in the late 1990s.
