joe Burrow should be mvp of the NFL

[tyroneweaver]

To play on a crap team and do what he does is a no brainer.
.... and I'm a Packer fan

 

[Blaster]

He is my fantasy league QB.

 

[MarathonMike]

He is my fantasy league QB.

Nice pick. I had Lamar, just lost in the semi-final to the guy who had Goff.

 

[MarathonMike]

To play on a crap team and do what he does is a no brainer.
.... and I'm a Packer fan

If the Bengals make the playoffs, Burrow should be in the conversation. Saquon Barkley has a chance to break the single season rushing record that has stood for 40 years. He should get MVP.

 

[toobfreak]

To play on a crap team and do what he does is a no brainer.

He is my fantasy league QB.

I hope you saw him yesterday against the Browns. He had some amazing passes, one where he was tripped and fell down, and dead flat horizontal like a board, a mere foot off the turf falling quickly, he still completed a forward pass about ten yards ahead of him to a receiver using nothing but his upper body muscles.

Nearly physically impossible.

He was literally so low to the ground, they had to check in slo-mo to be sure his knee hadn't already touched the ground.

 

[Votto]

To play on a crap team and do what he does is a no brainer.
.... and I'm a Packer fan

If he were on any other team, he would win a Super Bowl

Why does he stay?

Carson Palmer also was in his position, being the best QB in football with no team around him. He took them to the playoffs first time in like 30 years, which is the longest stretch of not reaching the playoffs by any team in NFL history, and promptly has an injury that should have ended his career. But he battled back and was their QB again, only, he refused to play for the Bungals as he demanded a trade. Problem was, the owner, Mike Brown, refused to trade him, so he promptly sat the bench and flushed $50 million down the toilet. But by that time he had made a lot of money and knew he could not by his health back, so after sitting the bench a year the owner finally traded him

Carson made a modest comeback but finally had an offensive line that would protect him. He was never the same QB after the injury, however.

Joe Burrow gets hit year after year more than any QB in the NFL, and also had a severe injury that I thought would have ended his career, but he somehow battled back like Carson. The problem with Joe, however, is that he is not as old and wise as Carson. And as we all know, all young men think they are indestructible, which they certainly are not.

Joe needs to either demand a trade like Carson Palmer did or wind up like Carson Palmer, or worse.

The Bungals are the most dysfunctional organization, not just in the NFL, but the most dysfunctional organization in professional sports in the entire world.

It all goes back to Paul Brown, a football legend who began his career as a coach with the Ohio State Buckeyes, winning OSU's first national championship in college football. He then goes on to help start the NFL with the Cleveland Browns, hence the Browns name. But he somehow lost control over his own team. It created bad blood between Paul and those that stole the team from him, so to get even he goes to Cincinnati to battle the Browns directly, and dominated them most of the time. He then goes to 2 Super Bowls, both of which he almost won against arguably the best team in NFL history, which was Joe Montana and the San Fransico 49'ers. During that era, the AFC always got blow out by the superior NFC EXCEPT when they played the Bengals.

But then tragedy struck. Paul Brown died in 1990. as the team died with him. His son, Mike Brown, took over. Problem was, Mike was just a stupid lawyer and not the football genius his father was. The other problem was, since Paul Brown had his team stolen from him in Cleveland, he became paranoid when he started the Bengals. That meant there was no GM, and little scouting. Paul simply ran it all, because he was able and still win doing it. However, once he died, a huge vacuum was created, the sucking sound can still be heard today. Now the team is run by the Brown family, with his mother in law doing payroll, and his granddaughter doing scouting, etc. The entire team now is nothing more than a way to enrich their family.

Sounds pretty bad, right? Well after Paul Brown died the team went on a horrendous losing streak lasting about 30 years or so. In addition to that losing streak, Mike Brown convinced the city of Cincinnati and their taxpayers to pay for a stadium he would use. The stadium was millions of dollars over budget, of course, which pissed off the taxpayers. But perhaps the thing that pissed them off the most was, he continued to run out their terrible teams. So the city of Cincinnati sued Mike Brown, underlying legal verbiage that said the city was providing him with the stadium to field a competitive team, underlying the word "competitive", which they were not. Then all of a sudden, they go get Carson Palmer and a new coach and make it to the playoffs in about 30 years, only to then lose and lose Carson to injury.

That is the ONLY reason the team improved, as Mike has no interest in winning, other than just to avoid getting sued.

And now you know more than you ever wanted about this pathetically sad sports franchise.

 

[Rocko]

He has the best weapons in the NFL. Of course he’s going to put up stats

 

[XponentialChaos]

He deserves to be in the conversation. He's playing incredibly well.

He would be getting more attention if his defense wasn't god-awful.

 

[Couchpotato]

To play on a crap team and do what he does is a no brainer.
.... and I'm a Packer fan

His defense sucks not the offense.

 

[Oddball]

Sam Darnold.

Their prized #1 pick QB goes down, Darnold steps into the breech and gets the job done better than anyone dared to expect.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Sam Darnold.

Their prized #1 pick QB goes down, Darnold steps into the breech and gets the job done better than anyone dared to expect.

Most improved player of the year no doubt

 

[Couchpotato]

Sam Darnold.

Their prized #1 pick QB goes down, Darnold steps into the breech and gets the job done better than anyone dared to expect.

There are 2 players in the running for MVP. Allen and Jackson. Barkley should be in there as well and probably win it but he plays the wrong position

 

[Couchpotato]

Most improved player of the year no doubt

Him and Mayfield have resurrected their careers.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Him and Mayfield have resurrected their careers.

Mayfields secret was out last year.. Darnold has been terrific as far as his resurgence

 

[Oddball]

There are 2 players in the running for MVP. Allen and Jackson. Barkley should be in there as well and probably win it but he plays the wrong position

Usually MVP goes to the player that the team probably wouldn't be where they are without.

Darnold and Barkley are far closer to that criteria.

 

[Fang]

Lamar will his 3rd MVP on his way to the Super Bowl.

Lamar beat both Josh Allen and Burrow (twice) this year.

 

[Couchpotato]

Usually MVP goes to the player that the team probably wouldn't be where they are without.

Darnold and Barkley are far closer to that criteria.

Thats who it should go to, and it rarely does anymore .

1. A non QB hasnt won the award since 2006.

2. Only 2 QB's with less than 12 wins have won it since then. Matt Ryan and Peyton Manning.

The award is now the QB on a top team with good stats. See last year.

 

[Couchpotato]

Lamar will his 3rd MVP on his way to the Super Bowl.

Lamar beat both Josh Allen and Burrow (twice) this year.

If he does it will be one hell of a feat. If things play out like he will have to play the Chargers at home in the WC, Bills away in the divisional and KC at Arrowhead in the Conference Champ game.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I say we look at a Mr. Friscus Anaylsis... who is on his 4th bourbon.. shall we?

Couchpotato Fang Oddball XponentialChaos Votto Rocko toobfreak MarathonMike let me know what you think

Players in the MVP Hunt (in no particular order.. yet) through this week:

Burrow: Bengals 7-8

• 4229yds, 39 TD's, 8 INT's.
• QBR: 74.3
• Rating: 108.5
• RUSHING: 177yds, 1 TD
• Team offense rank: 10th
• Team Defense scoring allowed: 28th

Goff: Lions 13-2

• 4,095yds, 33 TD, 10 INT's
• QBR 66.3
• Rating: 112.2
• RUSHING: 59yds, 0 TD's
• Team Offense Rank: 2nd
• Team defense scoring allowed: T-6th

Jackson: Ravens 10-5

• 3,787yds, 37 TD, 4 INT's
• QBR: 75.5
• Rating: 120.6
• RUSHING: 765 yds, 3 TD's
• Team Offense Rank: 1st
• *added detriment Derrick Henry: 1636yds (2nd), 13 TD's (T-1st)
• Team Defense scoring allowed: 19th

Allen: Bills 12-3

• 3,549yds, 26 TD's, 6 INT's
• QBR: 76.7
• Rating: 101.2
• RUSHING: 514 yds, 11 TD's
• Team offense rank: 7th
• Team defense scoring allowed: 11th

Barkley: Eagles 12-3

• 1,838yds, 13 TD's (T-1st)
• RECEIVING: 31 Receptions, 276yds, 2 TD's
• Team defense scoring allowed: 5th

So what do we do about this?

Like last year, I say it's Allen. His dual passing and rushing attack/scoring is second to none. If you took him off the Bills they'd be shell of themselves. They have the record, he has the big-time games that grab attention.

Listen, If you want to have a discussion on what the MVP of the NFL "should" be, that's another story. But as far as the standar of what it's been awared to... If I had to make a list currently, it would be:

1. Allen
2. Jackson
3. Goff
4. Barkley
5. Burrow

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yup, those are the top 5. You could make a case for any of them.

I think it’s going to be Josh Allen but I also think it’s interesting that Lamar Jackson got the MVP last year and his stats are significantly better this year.

I’d be happy to see a non-QB take it. Tyreek Hill could have gotten it last year and Saquan could get it this year. But I don’t see that happening, especially not this year with so many excellent quarterbacks.

My personal rankings. Not my prediction on how it shakes out.

1. Jackson
2. Allen
3. Barkley
4. Burrow
5. Goff