Joe Biden denied Holy Communion at Florence church

[Mac1958]

So you would agree getting along is way overrated?

Sure, for those who don't have to capacity to do so. It's best they just stay off to the side and scream at each other.
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Lol
There needs to be much more disagreement in this country, because that’s what this country was founded on.

They disagreed, communicated, collaborated and innovated with voices from all over the spectrum.

The Constitution was the result. Innovation. Something all new. Not just your way or my way.

Today, all some can do is disagree. That's not the same.
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[jc456]

This a good example of why the history of Christianity is division and subdivision, which obviously is continuing. The guys who run the Catholic Church (and they are all guys) decided to make abortion some sort of litmus test, which is absurd. There are all sorts of beliefs, theories, and conclusions on the subject, among both individuals and religious organizations, both Christian and not. And abortion is not the only subject on which opinions differ widely.

There is always a problem when one gets involved in an authoritarian organization. A small group of hand-picked individuals gets to make decisions for everyone. I have never regretted leaving the RC Church, which I did years before Roe v. Wade was decided. It is important to note here, before any posters go crazy that I have some obligation to continue as an RC, that I did not choose the RC Church, my parents enrolled me from birth. A close friend of mine switched not long ago from RC to Unitarian, and she is so happy she did.

As Biden has held a public office twice, and could again, I think that he is smart enough to know that a public official must exercise his/her duties on behalf of all the people, not just those of his/her own faith, even if the RCs want to reel him in.

we don't kill humans. ever hear of thou shall not kill ?

Yes. But there is a big difference between a potential human and a human. There are various stages to embryonic/fetal development. I think that you are being hysterical.

And yes, we do kill humans. What do you think that all of your fancy guns and expensive bombs are for? Do you think that AR-15s and AK-47s were created to make cookies? We've certainly spent billions killing humans.

well a genius to a stupid fk is different, can they each be killed for being different? the lengths you have to go to to justify killing babies is amazing to me. fk dude, there isn't any logic or sense to it. it's just pure kill babies.

It is your conclusion that abortion is "killing babies." It is my conclusion that it is not. Your level of hysteria does not change my conclusion. It is up to anyone contemplating having a abortion to determine the answer for herself according to her own reasoning, ideology, and any advice that she decides to seek from others whom she chooses to advise her, if any.

This notion that perfect strangers, including big government, should be able to impose an answer on this individual, when their advice is unsolicited, is an unwarranted and ridiculous denial of freedom, in terms of both respecting the individual's right to physical sovereignty and her right to religious freedom.

So just one question, is there a heart beat of the baby in the womb? yes or no?

 

[Rustic]

So you would agree getting along is way overrated?

Sure, for those who don't have to capacity to do so. It's best they just stay off to the side and scream at each other.
.

Lol
There needs to be much more disagreement in this country, because that’s what this country was founded on.

They disagreed, communicated, collaborated and innovated with voices from all over the spectrum.

The Constitution was the result. Innovation. Something all new. Not just your way or my way.

Today, all some can do is disagree. That's not the same.
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Except for the fact that Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms, and has 100% failure rate long-term. But yet the politically correct people insist THIS time it’s gonna work… You all know what Albert Einstein said about that… LOL

 

[jc456]

Well, you think the universe caused itself to come into existence so...

Which has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

It has everything to do. You don't follow God's teachings because you don't believe that he exists. Unwittingly, you do Satan's bidding.

You know nothing of my beliefs. You speak only of your's. Moreover, my beliefs are none of your business.

If you support abortion, you obviously have no belief in God nor in his commandments to not kill and to be fruitful and multiply. Abortion violates both.

Jesus never mentioned Abortion. The abortion of his day was taking unwanted infants to the edge of the village in the middle of the night and abandoning them to the tender mercies of the wild beasts. He knew about this, everyone did and he didn't say anything. In fact the only time the Bible mentions abandonment it turns out pretty good for Moses. Answer that one since you know the mind of God.

wow, you know what jesus knew. how did you hear from him?

 

[Mac1958]

So you would agree getting along is way overrated?

Sure, for those who don't have to capacity to do so. It's best they just stay off to the side and scream at each other.
.

Lol
There needs to be much more disagreement in this country, because that’s what this country was founded on.

They disagreed, communicated, collaborated and innovated with voices from all over the spectrum.

The Constitution was the result. Innovation. Something all new. Not just your way or my way.

Today, all some can do is disagree. That's not the same.
.

Except for the fact that Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms, and has 100% failure rate long-term. But yet the politically correct people insist THIS time it’s gonna work… You all know what Albert Einstein said about that… LOL

I have no idea what you mean by "socialism". It's a word that has been so over-used that it means nothing. Or anything.

As I said, just do what you're going to do. I'm not expecting anything more.
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[jknowgood]

Trump isn't perfect, but is a lot better than Hillary. He is the only president that I remember that is actually doing something against abortion.

 

[BlindBoo]

Judge not least you be judged.

Shouldn't it be between God and Joe?

The priest did the right thing. Maybe it might make Joe think about his position.

Would it be the right thing if he were to deny politicians the Sacrament if they support Trumps inhumane immigration policies? Or that support policies that hurt the poor and suffering?

 

[Rustic]

So you would agree getting along is way overrated?

Sure, for those who don't have to capacity to do so. It's best they just stay off to the side and scream at each other.
.

Lol
There needs to be much more disagreement in this country, because that’s what this country was founded on.

They disagreed, communicated, collaborated and innovated with voices from all over the spectrum.

The Constitution was the result. Innovation. Something all new. Not just your way or my way.

Today, all some can do is disagree. That's not the same.
.

Except for the fact that Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms, and has 100% failure rate long-term. But yet the politically correct people insist THIS time it’s gonna work… You all know what Albert Einstein said about that… LOL

I have no idea what you mean by "socialism". It's a word that has been so over-used that it means nothing. Or anything.

As I said, just do what you're going to do. I'm not expecting anything more.
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Socialism has been rejected countless times because of its failure, now some would not call it an failure because they believe in fascism. One cannot exist without the other… Political correctness is the Avenue this time. Lol

 

[jknowgood]

Judge not least you be judged.

Shouldn't it be between God and Joe?

The priest did the right thing. Maybe it might make Joe think about his position.

Would it be the right thing if he were to deny politicians the Sacrament if they support Trumps inhumane immigration policies? Or that support policies that hurt the poor and suffering?

He is trying to keep illegals out. You want them all here. Anyway Trump is using the same immigration policies Obama used. You were good with it then, thanks for proving no matter what Trump does. You will be against it.

 

[jc456]

This a good example of why the history of Christianity is division and subdivision, which obviously is continuing. The guys who run the Catholic Church (and they are all guys) decided to make abortion some sort of litmus test, which is absurd. There are all sorts of beliefs, theories, and conclusions on the subject, among both individuals and religious organizations, both Christian and not. And abortion is not the only subject on which opinions differ widely.

There is always a problem when one gets involved in an authoritarian organization. A small group of hand-picked individuals gets to make decisions for everyone. I have never regretted leaving the RC Church, which I did years before Roe v. Wade was decided. It is important to note here, before any posters go crazy that I have some obligation to continue as an RC, that I did not choose the RC Church, my parents enrolled me from birth. A close friend of mine switched not long ago from RC to Unitarian, and she is so happy she did.

As Biden has held a public office twice, and could again, I think that he is smart enough to know that a public official must exercise his/her duties on behalf of all the people, not just those of his/her own faith, even if the RCs want to reel him in.

we don't kill humans. ever hear of thou shall not kill ?

Yes. But there is a big difference between a potential human and a human. There are various stages to embryonic/fetal development. I think that you are being hysterical.

And yes, we do kill humans. What do you think that all of your fancy guns and expensive bombs are for? Do you think that AR-15s and AK-47s were created to make cookies? We've certainly spent billions killing humans.

well a genius to a stupid fk is different, can they each be killed for being different? the lengths you have to go to to justify killing babies is amazing to me. fk dude, there isn't any logic or sense to it. it's just pure kill babies.

It is your conclusion that abortion is "killing babies." It is my conclusion that it is not. Your level of hysteria does not change my conclusion. It is up to anyone contemplating having a abortion to determine the answer for herself according to her own reasoning, ideology, and any advice that she decides to seek from others whom she chooses to advise her, if any.

This notion that perfect strangers, including big government, should be able to impose an answer on this individual, when their advice is unsolicited, is an unwarranted and ridiculous denial of freedom, in terms of both respecting the individual's right to physical sovereignty and her right to religious freedom.

You are still forgetting there are three parties involved in an abortion, the innocent one pays ultimate price… Every time

she can't get passed the heart beat. she loses on that, and will once she ignores my previous post asking her if a baby in the womb has a heartbeat.

fk dude, trees don't have heartbeats and these ignorant fks say we kill trees.

 

[rightwinger]

40 percent of Catholics consider abortion to be morally acceptable

Abortion and the Catholic Church in the United States - Wikipedia


Is the church going to deny them communion?

 

[Rustic]

The fact remains political correctness makes people believe in fucked up things like socialism/progressivism.

lol

 

[Rustic]

40 percent of Catholics consider abortion to be morally acceptable

Abortion and the Catholic Church in the United States - Wikipedia


Is the church going to deny them communion?

The cult can do whatever they want, It’s up to the pope of pedophiles... lol

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It is your conclusion that abortion is "killing babies." It is my conclusion that it is not. Your level of hysteria does not change my conclusion. It is up to anyone contemplating having a abortion to determine the answer for herself according to her own reasoning, ideology, and any advice that she decides to seek from others whom she chooses to advise her, if any.

This notion that perfect strangers, including big government, should be able to impose an answer on this individual, when their advice is unsolicited, is an unwarranted and ridiculous denial of freedom, in terms of both respecting the individual's right to physical sovereignty and her right to religious freedom.

1850 the slaveholder says: They is my property and I can do whatever I want with my property. Y'all can kiss my butt cause I got the law on my side. Hell, it ain't like these slaves are human or anything. Mind your own business.

2019 the pro choice zealot says: My body is my business and no can tell me what to do with my property.
You can kiss my butt because I got the law on my side. It isn't as though these parasites in my body are human or anything. Mind your own business.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is your conclusion that abortion is "killing babies." It is my conclusion that it is not. Your level of hysteria does not change my conclusion. It is up to anyone contemplating having a abortion to determine the answer for herself according to her own reasoning, ideology, and any advice that she decides to seek from others whom she chooses to advise her, if any.

This notion that perfect strangers, including big government, should be able to impose an answer on this individual, when their advice is unsolicited, is an unwarranted and ridiculous denial of freedom, in terms of both respecting the individual's right to physical sovereignty and her right to religious freedom.

1850 the slaveholder says: They is my property and I can do whatever I want with my property. Y'all can kiss my butt cause I got the law on my side. Hell, it ain't like these slaves are human or anything. Mind your own business.

2019 the pro choice zealot says: My body is my business and no can tell me what to do with my property.
You can kiss my butt because I got the law on my side. It isn't as though these parasites in my body are human or anything. Mind your own business.

Slave owners in 1850 had slaves inside their bodies?

A person will not have an abortion if she agrees with your ideological conclusions. You arrived at yours. She will arrive at hers. I guess that you have never heard of freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Slave owners in 1850 had slaves inside their bodies?

Unable to challenge the analogy. I understand.

A person will not have an abortion if she agrees with your ideological conclusions. You arrived at yours. She will arrive at hers.

Just like the slave holders did, right? That was the whole point.

I guess that you have never heard of freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion.

Any mass murderer can hide behind these freedoms and claim they are a shield. You've done nothing but reveal what a desperate dunce you are.

Btw, no religion I know of justifies murder of children.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ For the record, I have never killed anyone and I don't encourage anyone to until it is in self defense. Oh and anyone who looks at a baby as something life threatening, they do not get my vote, but I will not kick them to the floor either. The Lord can do that for me. Please forgive me for not being one to steal from the Lord.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Again when you do not kick the butcher to the floor, you have given aid and comfort to the butcher and are part of the slaughter.

Satan owns your mind and soul, as such you can never be free until you reject the evil

You do realize that I can't just track the guy down and eviscerate him, right? All that a person in my place can do is not vote for him which is what I plan on doing: Not voting for him and because he will never get my vote, how can I be labeled a person who does nothing but aid the butcher? In other words, what better way to reject evil than my decision to not vote for evil?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. By the way, I can't help but wonder who has ownership of your mind and soul.

 

[Frannie]

^^^ For the record, I have never killed anyone and I don't encourage anyone to until it is in self defense. Oh and anyone who looks at a baby as something life threatening, they do not get my vote, but I will not kick them to the floor either. The Lord can do that for me. Please forgive me for not being one to steal from the Lord.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Again when you do not kick the butcher to the floor, you have given aid and comfort to the butcher and are part of the slaughter.

Satan owns your mind and soul, as such you can never be free until you reject the evil

You do realize that I can't just track the guy down and eviscerate him, right? All that a person in my place can do is not vote for him which is what I plan on doing: Not voting for him and because he will never get my vote, how can I be labeled a person who does nothing but aid the butcher? In other words, what better way to reject evil than my decision to not vote for evil?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. By the way, I can't help but wonder who has ownership of your mind and soul.

When you do not put down evil, you are part of it as all it takes for the triumph of evil is for a good man (person) to do nothing...…….………..

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ Do keep in mind that there are two different ways to put down evil, the right way and the wrong way. Forgive me if I don't do it the way that you wish that it was done. Forgive me for not thinking that the man is worth the prison sentence.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. One more question for you, if you have zero intention of practicing, what room is there for you to do all of this "preaching" that you have done? Any special reason why you have yet to take him out?

 

[ElmerMudd]

It is your conclusion that abortion is "killing babies." It is my conclusion that it is not. Your level of hysteria does not change my conclusion. It is up to anyone contemplating having a abortion to determine the answer for herself according to her own reasoning, ideology, and any advice that she decides to seek from others whom she chooses to advise her, if any.

This notion that perfect strangers, including big government, should be able to impose an answer on this individual, when their advice is unsolicited, is an unwarranted and ridiculous denial of freedom, in terms of both respecting the individual's right to physical sovereignty and her right to religious freedom.

1850 the slaveholder says: They is my property and I can do whatever I want with my property. Y'all can kiss my butt cause I got the law on my side. Hell, it ain't like these slaves are human or anything. Mind your own business.

2019 the pro choice zealot says: My body is my business and no can tell me what to do with my property.
You can kiss my butt because I got the law on my side. It isn't as though these parasites in my body are human or anything. Mind your own business.

If a woman has a miscarriage should she be investigated for felony involuntary manslaughter? The child died while in her care.