'Jobs Americans Won't Do': The Lie That Broke a Nation and the Economic and Social Devastation It Hid

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I grew up forty miles north of Louisville, Ky., in a one-stoplight town held together by tobacco, construction, and the kinds of gritty jobs that built the region’s character. My dad ran a small construction contracting business and held a small tobacco base, which gives you the legal right to grow a certain weight of tobacco. My brothers and I worked tobacco as teenagers, starting at 12 or 13, and my brothers did construction with Dad as soon as we were old enough to hold a hammer.

Those jobs weren’t easy. Tobacco paid around $10 an hour in the early-to-mid 1980s, the equivalent of $30 today, and you earned every penny. The work was filthy, exhausting, and dangerous: Sticky sap soaked into your skin, July sun cooked you alive, and harvest season meant hatchets, long metal spikes, and dark, dusty barn lofts where one bad step could break a leg. But we did it gladly because the pay was good and the work meant something. Every kid I knew in high school worked tobacco, along with a good share of the adults. It was the backbone of the community.

Then illegal labor arrived, and things began to shift. The first wave hit the tobacco farms. Farmers who had paid teenagers and local laborers fair wages realized they could hire adults from Mexico and Central America for far less and house them in the kinds of conditions Americans would never tolerate: eight men to a sagging, leaking trailer with no electricity, no running water, no insulation. They were paid in cash, they didn’t complain, they worked year-round, and they had no leverage because they knew their employers could always get them deported.

Within a few seasons, American teenagers were no longer hired. Within a few more, the full-time local farmhands, many of whom had been in the area for generations, were gone, too. My parents saw exactly what was happening when one neighbor proudly moved an entire illegal crew into a run-down trailer on their property on a hillside, right in the center of a dairy cow pasture. They thought they had found a clever solution to their labor costs. My parents were disgusted, because they understood what it meant: the beginning of the end for the community’s economic life.

Every country on Earth is allowed to protect its culture and economy except one and it's by design.

The American work force was broken to break the political and economic power of the American citizenry.

Illegals artificially depress the wages of any given job/service. They will work for a low wage and live 10 people in a 3 bedroom apt.

They don't buy much stuff with their wages either, they send it out of the US to their home country.
 

I grew up forty miles north of Louisville, Ky., in a one-stoplight town held together by tobacco, construction, and the kinds of gritty jobs that built the region’s character. My dad ran a small construction contracting business and held a small tobacco base, which gives you the legal right to grow a certain weight of tobacco. My brothers and I worked tobacco as teenagers, starting at 12 or 13, and my brothers did construction with Dad as soon as we were old enough to hold a hammer.

Those jobs weren’t easy. Tobacco paid around $10 an hour in the early-to-mid 1980s, the equivalent of $30 today, and you earned every penny. The work was filthy, exhausting, and dangerous: Sticky sap soaked into your skin, July sun cooked you alive, and harvest season meant hatchets, long metal spikes, and dark, dusty barn lofts where one bad step could break a leg. But we did it gladly because the pay was good and the work meant something. Every kid I knew in high school worked tobacco, along with a good share of the adults. It was the backbone of the community.

Then illegal labor arrived, and things began to shift. The first wave hit the tobacco farms. Farmers who had paid teenagers and local laborers fair wages realized they could hire adults from Mexico and Central America for far less and house them in the kinds of conditions Americans would never tolerate: eight men to a sagging, leaking trailer with no electricity, no running water, no insulation. They were paid in cash, they didn’t complain, they worked year-round, and they had no leverage because they knew their employers could always get them deported.

Within a few seasons, American teenagers were no longer hired. Within a few more, the full-time local farmhands, many of whom had been in the area for generations, were gone, too. My parents saw exactly what was happening when one neighbor proudly moved an entire illegal crew into a run-down trailer on their property on a hillside, right in the center of a dairy cow pasture. They thought they had found a clever solution to their labor costs. My parents were disgusted, because they understood what it meant: the beginning of the end for the community’s economic life.

Every country on Earth is allowed to protect its culture and economy except one and it's by design.

The American work force was broken to break the political and economic power of the American citizenry.

Illegals artificially depress the wages of any given job/service. They will work for a low wage and live 10 people in a 3 bedroom apt.

They don't buy much stuff with their wages either, they send it out of the US to their home country.
Take heart. Some are actually doing the work of the People and getting this stopped. This is beyond time to have been enacted.

 
ya mean the constant drum beat for muh crop pickers was alll lies.........funny how they blew across the whole economy. Factories, warehouses.....fast food
 
Children and especially teenagers NEED jobs....
Not so much for the wages they provide but for the responsibility these jobs teach.

And illegal labor steals those learning opportunities away to the point that the only thing these kids know how to do is live in the parent's basement playing video games, watch porn, and complain about how life is so unfair.
Then cook up a reason why they qualify for government assistance and never be productive their entire lives.

Most teenagers WANT a means of motorized transportation. A quasi-good used car is what most get. Even if partially or fully gifted that vehicle has ongoing costs that only a job can provide. Insurance, gas, oil, tires, and repairs are never cheap.
It ought to be considered child abuse or neglect to provide every penny that a child's vehicle requires. Same with their cell phones.

Lots of my classmates in school ALL got rude awakenings when they got their first jobs. Work was required. Looking pretty or being "cool" was insufficient grounds to stop them from getting fired when the occasion called for it. Of course they claimed that they quit because it was all BS. Truth was ALWAYS radically different.

But they LEARNED how to actually have and hold a job. A few didn't learn their lessons. (A few never do) and have mostly failed in life in most ways that "average" is measured out to be. A few have become above average. But they had jobs. A few who had jobs for whatever reason never rose above those jobs. They still have that exact same job today that they had in High School....(weird IMHO)
 
Like the hundreds of Tariff Free Foreign Trade Zones allow large political connected corps to export jobs & import tariff goods free while the rest of US suffer tariffs & job loss.
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Whole aircraft, tractors, trucks, vehicles, computers, phones, etc can be imported duty-free. Example: "Some tractor parts do have tariffs. By bringing the parts into a zone, building the tractor in the zone and only then importing the product, John Deere can pay the tractor tariffs, which amount to zero, instead of the taxes on its parts, which could be higher."

"Importers let the nuts & grains sit in the FTZ until they lost water weight then pay lower customs duties because the nuts & grains were lighter than when they came in."
 
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While what the OP says may have been true THEN

It is no longer true

You can’t get kids… even poor kids to work physical jobs… regardless of the pay
 
While what the OP says may have been true THEN

It is no longer true

You can’t get kids… even poor kids to work physical jobs… regardless of the pay
Their parents never did those jobs & kids wern't trained for those jobs. Their education carrys heavy debt that can't be repaid by doing those jobs. It will take massive debt forgivness & a decade to relocate, retrain & forgive loans.

The system was gamed by connected elite who gained over $30 Trillion of wealth while the lower 50% lost $Trillions of wealth.
 
While what the OP says may have been true THEN

It is no longer true

You can’t get kids… even poor kids to work physical jobs… regardless of the pay
Sadly, it isn't just kids. There are grownups who won't work physical jobs no matter what the pay is. I used to have a cousin who was married to a lady who did absolutely nothing to contribute to society. Why did he pick her for a wife? Sadly, he was no stranger to being cheated on during his prior marriages. I believe that she was wife #3 for him. Anyway, he drove a truck for an oil company. He would be the person who made sure that gas stations had whatever gas they were in need of. He worked and she didn't and sadly when he passed away in 2014, she got all that he left behind when she didn't do a thing to deserve it. Before she married my cousin, she had herself a son from her prior relationship and sadly he is a carbon copy of his mother. She is actually not here anymore either, but I am not sure about him. I can only say that when I got word that she had passed on, I didn't lose one bit of sleep over her because she was never once anything more than just a name to write down where it says "spouse" on any official documentation paper. :( :( :(

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
Sadly, it isn't just kids. There are grownups who won't work physical jobs no matter what the pay is. I used to have a cousin who was married to a lady who did absolutely nothing to contribute to society. Why did he pick her for a wife? Sadly, he was no stranger to being cheated on during his prior marriages. I believe that she was wife #3 for him. Anyway, he drove a truck for an oil company. He would be the person who made sure that gas stations had whatever gas they were in need of. He worked and she didn't and sadly when he passed away in 2014, she got all that he left behind when she didn't do a thing to deserve it. Before she married my cousin, she had herself a son from her prior relationship and sadly he is a carbon copy of his mother. She is actually not here anymore either, but I am not sure about him. I can only say that when I got word that she had passed on, I didn't lose one bit of sleep over her because she was never once anything more than just a name to write down where it says "spouse" on any official documentation paper. :( :( :(

God bless you always!!!

Holly
That kinda shoots the OP in the ass
 
Sadly, it isn't just kids. There are grownups who won't work physical jobs no matter what the pay is. I used to have a cousin who was married to a lady who did absolutely nothing to contribute to society. Why did he pick her for a wife? Sadly, he was no stranger to being cheated on during his prior marriages. I believe that she was wife #3 for him. Anyway, he drove a truck for an oil company. He would be the person who made sure that gas stations had whatever gas they were in need of. He worked and she didn't and sadly when he passed away in 2014, she got all that he left behind when she didn't do a thing to deserve it. Before she married my cousin, she had herself a son from her prior relationship and sadly he is a carbon copy of his mother. She is actually not here anymore either, but I am not sure about him. I can only say that when I got word that she had passed on, I didn't lose one bit of sleep over her because she was never once anything more than just a name to write down where it says "spouse" on any official documentation paper. :( :( :(

God bless you always!!!

Holly
The 1920's Industrial Revolution turned 70% of the US Economy into a consumer driven economy. This made the useless eaters the job creators for the other 30%. Employers don't want those morons around messing things up, claiming injury & costing them more management to watch them than they are worth + salary & benifits. The economy roars when we pay them to stay home & eat so they won't steal..
 
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Corporate Welfare America left America behind and sent American Jobs to Fascist Countries thus USA jobs disappeared.

Corporate America supports fascism while receiving tax dollar welfare galore so I believe the thread should be demanding USA jobs be brought back to America.

Meanwhile immigrant labor works hard and pays taxes yet receives damn little in return such as no unemployment insurance, no social security, no medicare, no section 8 assistance nonetheless they work their butts off day in and day out.

And more college grads are available who are over qualified for the low wage jobs so they accept higher paying employment.

I don't see the problem with immigrant employment I do see the problem with corporate America supporting fascist governments.
 
The American work force was broken to break the political and economic power of the American citizenry.

Truer words have never been spoken.

This is the very thing Trump most seeks to restore: illegals OUT and Americans doing for themselves again.

So while I don't always understand or agree with everything Trump says or does, I just remind myself that he is likely the ONLY president in my lifetime to put America first.

Most every other politician in Washington can't sell America out fast enough if the money in their pockets is right.
 
That kinda shoots the OP in the ass
Anecdotal evidence only illustrates that there can be exceptions to any norm. Those exceptions in no way blow up any theory or observation or truth that doesn't expressly promote a concept that there are no exceptions.

I can testify my own 'anecdotal' experience that strongly supports the OP. And I am also aware of the exceptions to the truth posted by the OP.
 
Anecdotal evidence only illustrates that there can be exceptions to any norm. Those exceptions in no way blow up any theory or observation or truth that doesn't expressly promote a concept that there are no exceptions.

I can testify my own 'anecdotal' experience that strongly supports the OP. And I am also aware of the exceptions to the truth posted by the OP.
So has there been ANY proof of anything in this thread?

No?

Oh
 
So has there been ANY proof of anything in this thread?

No?

Oh
The OP was editorial opinion and was not intended to be 'proof of anything'.

But for those of us with long experience in the old fashioned American culture, who have a strong knowledge and sense of American history, who have at least a somewhat basic understanding of economics as well as the impact of economics on a culture, we see the OP as spot on accurate. And an interesting topic as well as a platform to promote observation and discuss how our culture has changed, not always for the better.

Many have offered their own thoughts on that as well as their anecdotal experience.

That still does not change the fact that opposing anecdotal evidence only illustrates that there can be a deviance from the norm, but in no way changes the norm.
 
The OP was editorial opinion and was not intended to be 'proof of anything'.

But for those of us with long experience in the old fashioned American culture, who have a strong knowledge and sense of American history, who have at least a somewhat basic understanding of economics as well as the impact of economics on a culture, we see the OP as spot on accurate. And an interesting topic as well as a platform to promote observation and discuss how our culture has changed, not always for the better.

Many have offered their own thoughts on that as well as their anecdotal experience.

That still does not change the fact that opposing anecdotal evidence only illustrates that there can be a deviance from the norm, but in no way changes the norm.
All of this is anectdotal

Which you condemned

Dumbfuck
 
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All of this is anectdotal

Which you condemned

Dumbfuck
Show how I condemned anecdotal evidence in any way. Instead I only observed that anecdotal evidence exists and expressed what is does and does not confirm.

And then we might know which of us is the Dumbfuck.
 
No one is stopping anyone from working any of these jobs.

It’s 100% a matter of personal choice

Blaming “society” or “culture” for things that are purely the result of personal decisions is always a rather *****-ish point of view
 
"White supremacist creates false talking points for other white supremacists."

Yawn.
 
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