Zone1 Jehovah is Jesus

[kjw47]

John, an apostle of Jesus Christ, has told us that Jesus was God.

John 1:1,14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I think I will trust the words of John that Jesus was God. Many people had seen Jesus.

No he did not, he called the Word-a god. Trinity translations mislead to destruction. They are error filled and altered by Catholicism translating.

 

[onefour1]

No he did not, he called the Word-a god. Trinity translations mislead to destruction. They are error filled and altered by Catholicism translating.

From BibleHubs Interlinear Bible: John 1:1 Interlinear: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; . There is no "a god" in the original.

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[kjw47]

From BibleHubs Interlinear Bible: John 1:1 Interlinear: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; . There is no "a god" in the original.

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You mean trinity bias bible hub
Unbias Greek scholars in history put a god at John 1:1 because its correct.

 

[onefour1]

You mean trinity bias bible hub
Unbias Greek scholars in history put a god at John 1:1 because its correct.

The word for word translation is as follows. No trinity bias. Adding "a" to god gives it a Jehovah Witness biased translation.

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2532 [e]
kai
καὶ
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Conj

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Theos
Θεὸς
God
N-NMS

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ἦν
was
V-IIA-3S

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ho
ὁ
the
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The word "Θεὸς" is used for God (with a capital G) all throughout the New Testament: see Greek Concordance: θεός (theos) -- 311 Occurrences

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You all are biased to what you believe.

Remember that both theism and atheism are faith based.

 

[kjw47]

The word for word translation is as follows. No trinity bias. Adding "a" to god gives it a Jehovah Witness biased translation.

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[td]
2532 [e]
kai
καὶ
and
Conj

[/td]

[td]
2316 [e]
Theos
Θεὸς
God
N-NMS

[/td]

[td]
1510 [e]
ēn
ἦν
was
V-IIA-3S

[/td]

[td]
3588 [e]
ho
ὁ
the
Art-NMS

[/td]

[td]
3056 [e]
Logos
Λόγος .
Word
N-NMS

[/td]


The word "Θεὸς" is used for God (with a capital G) all throughout the New Testament: see Greek Concordance: θεός (theos) -- 311 Occurrences

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I just told you at least 20 Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1 before the JW,s translated. Trinity religions cant have that truth in their translating it exposes them as false religion.

 

[onefour1]

I just told you at least 20 Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1 before the JW,s translated. Trinity religions cant have that truth in their translating it exposes them as false religion.

Jesus is a God because he is part of the godhead which makes up our God. 20 so called scholars can speak the truth in saying Jesus is a God but when they change it to "god" they show disrespect for the Godhead. Jesus, being one with the Father, represents the Father in all his fulness.

Colossians 2:8-10
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

 

[kjw47]

Jesus is a God because he is part of the godhead which makes up our God. 20 so called scholars can speak the truth in saying Jesus is a God but when they change it to "god" they show disrespect for the Godhead. Jesus, being one with the Father, represents the Father in all his fulness.

Colossians 2:8-10
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Small g god= has godlike qualities.
You have Catholicism translating--Your eternal life is depending on Catholicism translating= all will lose using it.

 

[onefour1]

Small g god= has godlike qualities.
You have Catholicism translating--Your eternal life is depending on Catholicism translating= all will lose using it.

Small g god= has godlike qualities.
You have Catholicism translating--Your eternal life is depending on Catholicism translating= all will lose using it.

John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Not Catholic but straight from the mouth of Jesus.

 

[Ace Nova]

Jesus is a God because he is part of the godhead which makes up our God. 20 so called scholars can speak the truth in saying Jesus is a God but when they change it to "god" they show disrespect for the Godhead. Jesus, being one with the Father, represents the Father in all his fulness.

Colossians 2:8-10
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

No.

"IN HIM dwells" - The key words being IN HIM. That does not mean in any way, shape or form that Jesus - in his human body - could physically/outwardly represent "the fullness" of God. Not possible for a human body - unless done with God for "With God All Things Are Possible" That is why Jesus (in human form) is not God by himself.

He could always be considered "a god" but that term was used loosely 2000+ years ago - various people of the Old Testament are referred to as "gods" and Moses was even referred to as "O God" - a term used in reverence for a great prophet or anointed person.

Through faith you are free to believe what you wish - although it is advisable to believe what truly moves you - from inside - outward. .

The fact that certain faiths do not allow someone to say or print the word God is admirable but severely misguided - it is based on nothing but ignorance of languages and ignorance of the root meaning of the word.

Lower case god or even Lord is no different than addressing someone as MR. or a lady as Miss. - it is simply a title of recognition - the title "god" would indicate a person or entity who ranks above most people, governments, royalty and even above Kings and Queens.

Lord, on the other hand, is much more common and still used to this day throughout many European countries - it is the equivalent of "Master" AKA Mr. That is why you will notice LORD all capitalized when the books of the Bible reference an entity of God (Or God) - it is to distinguish from the much lesser, standard spelling, Lord.

Small g god= has godlike qualities.
You have Catholicism translating--Your eternal life is depending on Catholicism translating= all will lose using it.

Do not be like some of the ancient scribes of the Law - those who would only criticize without offering a remedy. If you are confident in what you say - teach them your way - let it be seen by everyone - so that it can be judged accordingly.

 

[onefour1]

No.

"IN HIM dwells" - The key words being IN HIM. That does not mean in any way, shape or form that Jesus - in his human body - could physically/outwardly represent "the fullness" of God. Not possible for a human body - unless done with God for "With God All Things Are Possible" That is why Jesus (in human form) is not God by himself.

He could always be considered "a god" but that term was used loosely 2000+ years ago - various people of the Old Testament are referred to as "gods" and Moses was even referred to as "O God" - a term used in reverence for a great prophet or anointed person.

Through faith you are free to believe what you wish - although it is advisable to believe what truly moves you - from inside - outward. .

The fact that certain faiths do not allow someone to say or print the word God is admirable but severely misguided - it is based on nothing but ignorance of languages and ignorance of the root meaning of the word.

Lower case god or even Lord is no different than addressing someone as MR. or a lady as Miss. - it is simply a title of recognition - the title "god" would indicate a person or entity who ranks above most people, governments, royalty and even above Kings and Queens.

Lord, on the other hand, is much more common and still used to this day throughout many European countries - it is the equivalent of "Master" AKA Mr. That is why you will notice LORD all capitalized when the books of the Bible reference an entity of God (Or God) - it is to distinguish from the much lesser, standard spelling, Lord.



Do not be like some of the ancient scribes of the Law - those who would only criticize without offering a remedy. If you are confident in what you say - teach them your way - let it be seen by everyone - so that it can be judged accordingly.

Matthew 28:18
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

I think I will trust Jesus who himself said that he has ALL POWER in heaven and in earth.

 

[Ace Nova]

Matthew 28:18
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

I think I will trust Jesus who himself said that he has ALL POWER in heaven and in earth.

In Matthew 28:18 Jesus had already suffered death, descended to the netherworld and was resurrected in his Glorified form.

Matthew 28:1:

After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to visit the sepulcher. And behold, there was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord, descended from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat upon it. His face shone like lightning, and his garments were as white as snow. The guards were so paralyzed with fear of him that they became like dead men.

He was both divine and human when he appeared to the Apostles after the resurrection. (Only Moses, Enoch and Elijah are known to have been both divine and human at some point - Moses after being in the Presence of God on the mountain and both Enoch and Elijah were "taken and were with God" in their human bodily forms - as we understand it).

As I stated - Jesus as a human being had "the fullness of God" within him - when Jesus was resurrected "the fullness of God" encompassed his entire being - both inside and out. (Glorified form).

 

[onefour1]

In Matthew 28:18 Jesus had already suffered death, descended to the netherworld and was resurrected in his Glorified form.

Matthew 28:1:

After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to visit the sepulcher. And behold, there was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord, descended from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat upon it. His face shone like lightning, and his garments were as white as snow. The guards were so paralyzed with fear of him that they became like dead men.

He was both divine and human when he appeared to the Apostles after the resurrection. (Only Moses, Enoch and Elijah are known to have been both divine and human at some point - Moses after being in the Presence of God on the mountain and both Enoch and Elijah were "taken and were with God" in their human bodily forms - as we understand it).

As I stated - Jesus as a human being had "the fullness of God" within him - when Jesus was resurrected "the fullness of God" encompassed his entire being - both inside and out. (Glorified form).

So is it your point that Jesus while on this earth before his resurrection was not God or only partially God? I don't think that just because God so loved the world that he humbled himself by coming to this earth and maybe having less power in his earthly state to sacrifice himself for the salvation of all mankind made him any less of a God but actually made him exceedingly great for the love and compassion he had for all of mankind. The Great I AM so loved the world that he sacrificed his own self so that his fellow beings might be saved. Jesus, who is Jehovah, was a member of the Godhead before earth was made, during the days of the Old Testament, during the time he was on this earth, and forever more as a resurrected immortal being in the heavens.

 

[Ace Nova]

So is it your point that Jesus while on this earth before his resurrection was not God or only partially God? I don't think that just because God so loved the world that he humbled himself by coming to this earth and maybe having less power in his earthly state to sacrifice himself for the salvation of all mankind made him any less of a God but actually made him exceedingly great for the love and compassion he had for all of mankind. The Great I AM so loved the world that he sacrificed his own self so that his fellow beings might be saved. Jesus, who is Jehovah, was a member of the Godhead before earth was made, during the days of the Old Testament, during the time he was on this earth, and forever more as a resurrected immortal being in the heavens.

What I believe to be true is somewhat more complex.

That said - other than using specific names - I do not disagree with the general idea of your belief. Well done.

 

[kjw47]

John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Not Catholic but straight from the mouth of Jesus.

The Hebrew scholars assure-There is no i am that i am in their Hebrew written OT-It translates-i will be what i will be. Only misleading error filled translations has i am that i am.= Catholicism translating.

 

[kjw47]

No.

"IN HIM dwells" - The key words being IN HIM. That does not mean in any way, shape or form that Jesus - in his human body - could physically/outwardly represent "the fullness" of God. Not possible for a human body - unless done with God for "With God All Things Are Possible" That is why Jesus (in human form) is not God by himself.

He could always be considered "a god" but that term was used loosely 2000+ years ago - various people of the Old Testament are referred to as "gods" and Moses was even referred to as "O God" - a term used in reverence for a great prophet or anointed person.

Through faith you are free to believe what you wish - although it is advisable to believe what truly moves you - from inside - outward. .

The fact that certain faiths do not allow someone to say or print the word God is admirable but severely misguided - it is based on nothing but ignorance of languages and ignorance of the root meaning of the word.

Lower case god or even Lord is no different than addressing someone as MR. or a lady as Miss. - it is simply a title of recognition - the title "god" would indicate a person or entity who ranks above most people, governments, royalty and even above Kings and Queens.

Lord, on the other hand, is much more common and still used to this day throughout many European countries - it is the equivalent of "Master" AKA Mr. That is why you will notice LORD all capitalized when the books of the Bible reference an entity of God (Or God) - it is to distinguish from the much lesser, standard spelling, Lord.



Do not be like some of the ancient scribes of the Law - those who would only criticize without offering a remedy. If you are confident in what you say - teach them your way - let it be seen by everyone - so that it can be judged accordingly.

I have shared their error-They throw it away. At least 20 translations in history has a god at John 1:1 by unbias Greek scholars.