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It’s in the definitions.Ahhhh................so you went from "Govt employee" to "only the executive branch".Nope. The law covers executive branch, not Congress.Gonna be fun watching you spin this..............Nope. It’s exactly on topic.The law specifically says they're not allowed to endorse any product regardless of personal gain.She’s an employee. It doesn’t matter if she’s paid or not. She signed up as an employee. You can be an unpaid employee, kiddo. That doesn’t exempt one from ethics laws.Her pay is irrelevant. She is a government employee.She’s a government employee which is exactly who the law covers.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
What elected position does she have?
Oh, right. None.
Goodbye.
Wrong, she is her dads advisor. She gets no pay.
Not clicking with what an "employee" is, are you? She also wasn't paid for promoting Goya.
OK, so Obama was paid. And he promoted the Chevy Volt. What should have happened to him in your view?
The president is specifically exempted from the law in question.
You're still only addressing half the equation and obviously doing it on purpose because you realize you're wrong.
If she were PAID by Goya, that would be an argument. She's benefiting from being an unpaid advisor.
But she's making nothing off any of this. That's where your argument falls apart, and you know it, which is why you're dancing and evading addressing the whole picture at once
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain.
An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. The specific prohibitions set forth in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this section apply this general standard, but are not intended to be exclusive or to limit the application of this section.
She's not allowed to endorse products.
Right. She didn't gain. That's the point I keep making. Do you understand Goya didn't pay her? You don't, do you?
Hunter on the other hand got his daddy to redirect millions of dollars his way and you don't give a shit
You might want to sign up for a remedial reading class, that's not what the law says.
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Yes, it does.
(c) Endorsements. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise except:
(1) In furtherance of statutory authority to promote products, services or enterprises; or
(2) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency's mission.
5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.
www.law.cornell.edu
Did you read the title of the law?
Use of public office for private gain.
ROFLMFAO, what do you fail to understand, there was no private gain, dip.
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Does a company benefit from having celebrities endorse their product?
WOW, now you're trying to move the goal posts because you're getting your ass kicked. Good job commie, your deflection doesn't even warrant a response since it's COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
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The title is call use of office for private gain.
Endorsement of a product provides that company with a gain.
Chuck Schumer endorses Junior's Cheesecake as "best ever". Clear violation of law.
Hey, colfax_m is Chuck exempt from the law prohibiting endorsing products too? Should we hold an unpaid "govt employee" to a higher standard than the Senate Minority Leader? Schumer confirms spending $8K on cheesecake in 10 years: 'Guilty as charged' Senate Minority Leader Charles...www.usmessageboard.com
Care to quote where it is limited to the executive branch?
5 CFR § 2635.102 - Definitions.
www.law.cornell.edu
Read the definition of employee and tell me what you find.
Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
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I just did.It says she wasn’t an employee but after people criticized her for trying to evade the rules, she became an employee.Im not giving you my opinion. I’m literally quoting Ivanka announcing that she’s a federal employee.No. No. No.I believe her title is special advisor to the president.Yes. Ivanka is an employee of the government.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Watch: Six Years Ago Obama Promised to Buy a Chevy Volt. Now It Is Dead
Yeah, but remember how the Democrats all wanted him investigated for that? Hmm ... I don't either ...
They will say as an elected official he isn't beholden to those rules. Of course, Trump's daughter isn't a civil service employee of the government, so her application vis a vis the law is probably hazy as well.
They got their soundbite, that's all they care about.
A civil servant with a title?
Paid? Civil Service? Senate Confirmed?
Any other questions?
The law they are quoting probably applies to a specific type of employee. Any idea which one it applies to?
It applies to almost everyone in government:
(h) Employee means any officer or employee of an agency, including a special Government employee. It includes officers but not enlisted members of the uniformed services. It includes employees of a State or local government or other organization who are serving on detail to an agency, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 3371, et seq. For purposes other than subparts B and C of this part, it does not include the President or Vice President. Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
employee
[emˈploiē, emˌploiˈē]
NOUN
Doesn't apply to volunteers, dip.
- a person employed for wages or salary,
.
I don't know where you got that definition, maybe a dictionary.
But the legal definition written in law says this:
Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
Thanks for the effort, dip. You're wrong again.
Wrong, you have to be an employee to have a pay or leave status. Where ever you got your poor education, you should ask for a refund.
.
Ivanka is an employee. Whether she is paid or not is irrelevant.
She said so herself:
“I will instead serve as an unpaid employee in the White House Office, subject to all of the same rules as other federal employees.”
Ivanka Trump To Be An Official White House Employee Covered By Ethics Rules
She already has an office in the West Wing. "I have been working closely ... with the White House Counsel and my personal counsel to address the unprecedented nature of my role," she said.www.npr.org
You’re about the third dumbass I’ve proven wrong at this point and y’all just run away without ever manning up and admitting it.
Your opinion isn't fact, actually it's more of a fantasy. LMAO
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Can you respond to the quote from Ivanka?
The same damn article says she's not.
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I swear, you guys are really shitty at reading.
Feel free to point out what I might have missed.
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Did you look up the definition of a government employee?It’s in the definitions.Ahhhh................so you went from "Govt employee" to "only the executive branch".Nope. The law covers executive branch, not Congress.Gonna be fun watching you spin this..............Nope. It’s exactly on topic.The law specifically says they're not allowed to endorse any product regardless of personal gain.She’s an employee. It doesn’t matter if she’s paid or not. She signed up as an employee. You can be an unpaid employee, kiddo. That doesn’t exempt one from ethics laws.Her pay is irrelevant. She is a government employee.She’s a government employee which is exactly who the law covers.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
What elected position does she have?
Oh, right. None.
Goodbye.
Wrong, she is her dads advisor. She gets no pay.
Not clicking with what an "employee" is, are you? She also wasn't paid for promoting Goya.
OK, so Obama was paid. And he promoted the Chevy Volt. What should have happened to him in your view?
The president is specifically exempted from the law in question.
You're still only addressing half the equation and obviously doing it on purpose because you realize you're wrong.
If she were PAID by Goya, that would be an argument. She's benefiting from being an unpaid advisor.
But she's making nothing off any of this. That's where your argument falls apart, and you know it, which is why you're dancing and evading addressing the whole picture at once
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain.
An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. The specific prohibitions set forth in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this section apply this general standard, but are not intended to be exclusive or to limit the application of this section.
She's not allowed to endorse products.
Right. She didn't gain. That's the point I keep making. Do you understand Goya didn't pay her? You don't, do you?
Hunter on the other hand got his daddy to redirect millions of dollars his way and you don't give a shit
You might want to sign up for a remedial reading class, that's not what the law says.
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Yes, it does.
(c) Endorsements. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise except:
(1) In furtherance of statutory authority to promote products, services or enterprises; or
(2) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency's mission.
5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.
www.law.cornell.edu
Did you read the title of the law?
Use of public office for private gain.
ROFLMFAO, what do you fail to understand, there was no private gain, dip.
.
Does a company benefit from having celebrities endorse their product?
WOW, now you're trying to move the goal posts because you're getting your ass kicked. Good job commie, your deflection doesn't even warrant a response since it's COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
.
The title is call use of office for private gain.
Endorsement of a product provides that company with a gain.
Chuck Schumer endorses Junior's Cheesecake as "best ever". Clear violation of law.
Hey, colfax_m is Chuck exempt from the law prohibiting endorsing products too? Should we hold an unpaid "govt employee" to a higher standard than the Senate Minority Leader? Schumer confirms spending $8K on cheesecake in 10 years: 'Guilty as charged' Senate Minority Leader Charles...www.usmessageboard.com
Care to quote where it is limited to the executive branch?
5 CFR § 2635.102 - Definitions.
www.law.cornell.edu
Read the definition of employee and tell me what you find.
colfax_m is now trying to sell that members of Congress are not "Govt employees".
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
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Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Every day each side picks out some small(by comparison) piece of trash to throw at each other, in the meantime people are dying, & important things that effect our future are going on. The extremes have taken over the microphone. measured and thoughtful planning lost.
Nepotism laws don't apply to the president.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
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Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Wrong skippy, there are laws against people in government hiring their family, she serves in a volunteer capacity, not an employee, that would be illegal. Think Kennedy hiring his brother as AG.
.
Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
.
Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Wrong skippy, there are laws against people in government hiring their family, she serves in a volunteer capacity, not an employee, that would be illegal. Think Kennedy hiring his brother as AG.
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I just did.It says she wasn’t an employee but after people criticized her for trying to evade the rules, she became an employee.Im not giving you my opinion. I’m literally quoting Ivanka announcing that she’s a federal employee.No. No. No.I believe her title is special advisor to the president.Yes. Ivanka is an employee of the government.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Watch: Six Years Ago Obama Promised to Buy a Chevy Volt. Now It Is Dead
Yeah, but remember how the Democrats all wanted him investigated for that? Hmm ... I don't either ...
They will say as an elected official he isn't beholden to those rules. Of course, Trump's daughter isn't a civil service employee of the government, so her application vis a vis the law is probably hazy as well.
They got their soundbite, that's all they care about.
A civil servant with a title?
Paid? Civil Service? Senate Confirmed?
Any other questions?
The law they are quoting probably applies to a specific type of employee. Any idea which one it applies to?
It applies to almost everyone in government:
(h) Employee means any officer or employee of an agency, including a special Government employee. It includes officers but not enlisted members of the uniformed services. It includes employees of a State or local government or other organization who are serving on detail to an agency, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 3371, et seq. For purposes other than subparts B and C of this part, it does not include the President or Vice President. Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
employee
[emˈploiē, emˌploiˈē]
NOUN
Doesn't apply to volunteers, dip.
- a person employed for wages or salary,
.
I don't know where you got that definition, maybe a dictionary.
But the legal definition written in law says this:
Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
Thanks for the effort, dip. You're wrong again.
Wrong, you have to be an employee to have a pay or leave status. Where ever you got your poor education, you should ask for a refund.
.
Ivanka is an employee. Whether she is paid or not is irrelevant.
She said so herself:
“I will instead serve as an unpaid employee in the White House Office, subject to all of the same rules as other federal employees.”
Ivanka Trump To Be An Official White House Employee Covered By Ethics Rules
She already has an office in the West Wing. "I have been working closely ... with the White House Counsel and my personal counsel to address the unprecedented nature of my role," she said.www.npr.org
You’re about the third dumbass I’ve proven wrong at this point and y’all just run away without ever manning up and admitting it.
Your opinion isn't fact, actually it's more of a fantasy. LMAO
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Can you respond to the quote from Ivanka?
The same damn article says she's not.
.
I swear, you guys are really shitty at reading.
Feel free to point out what I might have missed.
.
She tried to get away with pretending she wasn’t an employee while doing everything an employee would do (such as having an office) but was called out on her attempt to evade accountability.
So she reversed course and accepted an official position.
Nepotism laws don't apply to the president.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
.
Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Wrong skippy, there are laws against people in government hiring their family, she serves in a volunteer capacity, not an employee, that would be illegal. Think Kennedy hiring his brother as AG.
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Ivanka is quoted as saying she's an employee, but you keep repeating this stupid lie.
I just did.It says she wasn’t an employee but after people criticized her for trying to evade the rules, she became an employee.Im not giving you my opinion. I’m literally quoting Ivanka announcing that she’s a federal employee.No. No. No.I believe her title is special advisor to the president.Yes. Ivanka is an employee of the government.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Watch: Six Years Ago Obama Promised to Buy a Chevy Volt. Now It Is Dead
Yeah, but remember how the Democrats all wanted him investigated for that? Hmm ... I don't either ...
They will say as an elected official he isn't beholden to those rules. Of course, Trump's daughter isn't a civil service employee of the government, so her application vis a vis the law is probably hazy as well.
They got their soundbite, that's all they care about.
A civil servant with a title?
Paid? Civil Service? Senate Confirmed?
Any other questions?
The law they are quoting probably applies to a specific type of employee. Any idea which one it applies to?
It applies to almost everyone in government:
(h) Employee means any officer or employee of an agency, including a special Government employee. It includes officers but not enlisted members of the uniformed services. It includes employees of a State or local government or other organization who are serving on detail to an agency, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 3371, et seq. For purposes other than subparts B and C of this part, it does not include the President or Vice President. Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
employee
[emˈploiē, emˌploiˈē]
NOUN
Doesn't apply to volunteers, dip.
- a person employed for wages or salary,
.
I don't know where you got that definition, maybe a dictionary.
But the legal definition written in law says this:
Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
Thanks for the effort, dip. You're wrong again.
Wrong, you have to be an employee to have a pay or leave status. Where ever you got your poor education, you should ask for a refund.
.
Ivanka is an employee. Whether she is paid or not is irrelevant.
She said so herself:
“I will instead serve as an unpaid employee in the White House Office, subject to all of the same rules as other federal employees.”
Ivanka Trump To Be An Official White House Employee Covered By Ethics Rules
She already has an office in the West Wing. "I have been working closely ... with the White House Counsel and my personal counsel to address the unprecedented nature of my role," she said.www.npr.org
You’re about the third dumbass I’ve proven wrong at this point and y’all just run away without ever manning up and admitting it.
Your opinion isn't fact, actually it's more of a fantasy. LMAO
.
Can you respond to the quote from Ivanka?
The same damn article says she's not.
.
I swear, you guys are really shitty at reading.
Feel free to point out what I might have missed.
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She tried to get away with pretending she wasn’t an employee while doing everything an employee would do (such as having an office) but was called out on her attempt to evade accountability.
So she reversed course and accepted an official position.
Like I just explained to one of your uninformed comrades, she can't hold an official position, that would be illegal.
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Don't have to look it up to know Schumer is on my payroll and is a govt employee.Did you look up the definition of a government employee?It’s in the definitions.Ahhhh................so you went from "Govt employee" to "only the executive branch".Nope. The law covers executive branch, not Congress.Gonna be fun watching you spin this..............Nope. It’s exactly on topic.The law specifically says they're not allowed to endorse any product regardless of personal gain.She’s an employee. It doesn’t matter if she’s paid or not. She signed up as an employee. You can be an unpaid employee, kiddo. That doesn’t exempt one from ethics laws.Her pay is irrelevant. She is a government employee.She’s a government employee which is exactly who the law covers.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
What elected position does she have?
Oh, right. None.
Goodbye.
Wrong, she is her dads advisor. She gets no pay.
Not clicking with what an "employee" is, are you? She also wasn't paid for promoting Goya.
OK, so Obama was paid. And he promoted the Chevy Volt. What should have happened to him in your view?
The president is specifically exempted from the law in question.
You're still only addressing half the equation and obviously doing it on purpose because you realize you're wrong.
If she were PAID by Goya, that would be an argument. She's benefiting from being an unpaid advisor.
But she's making nothing off any of this. That's where your argument falls apart, and you know it, which is why you're dancing and evading addressing the whole picture at once
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain.
An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. The specific prohibitions set forth in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this section apply this general standard, but are not intended to be exclusive or to limit the application of this section.
She's not allowed to endorse products.
Right. She didn't gain. That's the point I keep making. Do you understand Goya didn't pay her? You don't, do you?
Hunter on the other hand got his daddy to redirect millions of dollars his way and you don't give a shit
You might want to sign up for a remedial reading class, that's not what the law says.
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Yes, it does.
(c) Endorsements. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise except:
(1) In furtherance of statutory authority to promote products, services or enterprises; or
(2) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency's mission.
5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.
www.law.cornell.edu
Did you read the title of the law?
Use of public office for private gain.
ROFLMFAO, what do you fail to understand, there was no private gain, dip.
.
Does a company benefit from having celebrities endorse their product?
WOW, now you're trying to move the goal posts because you're getting your ass kicked. Good job commie, your deflection doesn't even warrant a response since it's COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
.
The title is call use of office for private gain.
Endorsement of a product provides that company with a gain.
Chuck Schumer endorses Junior's Cheesecake as "best ever". Clear violation of law.
Hey, colfax_m is Chuck exempt from the law prohibiting endorsing products too? Should we hold an unpaid "govt employee" to a higher standard than the Senate Minority Leader? Schumer confirms spending $8K on cheesecake in 10 years: 'Guilty as charged' Senate Minority Leader Charles...www.usmessageboard.com
Care to quote where it is limited to the executive branch?
5 CFR § 2635.102 - Definitions.
www.law.cornell.edu
Read the definition of employee and tell me what you find.
colfax_m is now trying to sell that members of Congress are not "Govt employees".
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
What did you find?
Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
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Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Wrong skippy, there are laws against people in government hiring their family, she serves in a volunteer capacity, not an employee, that would be illegal. Think Kennedy hiring his brother as AG.
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Sorry but she is a Government Employee that takes no salary.
Status = Employee.....
You better remove that egg from your face..
TDS lolMs. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Don't have to look it up to know Schumer is on my payroll and is a govt employee.Did you look up the definition of a government employee?It’s in the definitions.Ahhhh................so you went from "Govt employee" to "only the executive branch".Nope. The law covers executive branch, not Congress.Gonna be fun watching you spin this..............Nope. It’s exactly on topic.The law specifically says they're not allowed to endorse any product regardless of personal gain.She’s an employee. It doesn’t matter if she’s paid or not. She signed up as an employee. You can be an unpaid employee, kiddo. That doesn’t exempt one from ethics laws.Her pay is irrelevant. She is a government employee.She’s a government employee which is exactly who the law covers.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
What elected position does she have?
Oh, right. None.
Goodbye.
Wrong, she is her dads advisor. She gets no pay.
Not clicking with what an "employee" is, are you? She also wasn't paid for promoting Goya.
OK, so Obama was paid. And he promoted the Chevy Volt. What should have happened to him in your view?
The president is specifically exempted from the law in question.
You're still only addressing half the equation and obviously doing it on purpose because you realize you're wrong.
If she were PAID by Goya, that would be an argument. She's benefiting from being an unpaid advisor.
But she's making nothing off any of this. That's where your argument falls apart, and you know it, which is why you're dancing and evading addressing the whole picture at once
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain.
An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. The specific prohibitions set forth in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this section apply this general standard, but are not intended to be exclusive or to limit the application of this section.
She's not allowed to endorse products.
Right. She didn't gain. That's the point I keep making. Do you understand Goya didn't pay her? You don't, do you?
Hunter on the other hand got his daddy to redirect millions of dollars his way and you don't give a shit
You might want to sign up for a remedial reading class, that's not what the law says.
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Yes, it does.
(c) Endorsements. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise except:
(1) In furtherance of statutory authority to promote products, services or enterprises; or
(2) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency's mission.
5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.
www.law.cornell.edu
Did you read the title of the law?
Use of public office for private gain.
ROFLMFAO, what do you fail to understand, there was no private gain, dip.
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Does a company benefit from having celebrities endorse their product?
WOW, now you're trying to move the goal posts because you're getting your ass kicked. Good job commie, your deflection doesn't even warrant a response since it's COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
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The title is call use of office for private gain.
Endorsement of a product provides that company with a gain.
Chuck Schumer endorses Junior's Cheesecake as "best ever". Clear violation of law.
Hey, colfax_m is Chuck exempt from the law prohibiting endorsing products too? Should we hold an unpaid "govt employee" to a higher standard than the Senate Minority Leader? Schumer confirms spending $8K on cheesecake in 10 years: 'Guilty as charged' Senate Minority Leader Charles...www.usmessageboard.com
Care to quote where it is limited to the executive branch?
5 CFR § 2635.102 - Definitions.
www.law.cornell.edu
Read the definition of employee and tell me what you find.
colfax_m is now trying to sell that members of Congress are not "Govt employees".
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
What did you find?
Sorry for your colossal ignorance.
Very much an employee in the legal sense, which is all that matters.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Bullshit, since she's is NOT a government employee, she can do what ever she wants as a citizen. Why do you hate free speech?
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Get with the program...
She is Senior Advisor to the President, it was on her twitter account which she used to promote the product.
She foregoes the salary but that is still a position and thus is a government employee.
Wrong skippy, there are laws against people in government hiring their family, she serves in a volunteer capacity, not an employee, that would be illegal. Think Kennedy hiring his brother as AG.
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Sorry but she is a Government Employee that takes no salary.
Status = Employee.....
You better remove that egg from your face..
Not an employee in any legal or traditional sense. Federal employees get pay and benefits.
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Don't have to look it up to know Schumer is on my payroll and is a govt employee.Did you look up the definition of a government employee?It’s in the definitions.Ahhhh................so you went from "Govt employee" to "only the executive branch".Nope. The law covers executive branch, not Congress.Gonna be fun watching you spin this..............Nope. It’s exactly on topic.The law specifically says they're not allowed to endorse any product regardless of personal gain.She’s an employee. It doesn’t matter if she’s paid or not. She signed up as an employee. You can be an unpaid employee, kiddo. That doesn’t exempt one from ethics laws.Her pay is irrelevant. She is a government employee.She’s a government employee which is exactly who the law covers.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
What elected position does she have?
Oh, right. None.
Goodbye.
Wrong, she is her dads advisor. She gets no pay.
Not clicking with what an "employee" is, are you? She also wasn't paid for promoting Goya.
OK, so Obama was paid. And he promoted the Chevy Volt. What should have happened to him in your view?
The president is specifically exempted from the law in question.
You're still only addressing half the equation and obviously doing it on purpose because you realize you're wrong.
If she were PAID by Goya, that would be an argument. She's benefiting from being an unpaid advisor.
But she's making nothing off any of this. That's where your argument falls apart, and you know it, which is why you're dancing and evading addressing the whole picture at once
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain.
An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations. The specific prohibitions set forth in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this section apply this general standard, but are not intended to be exclusive or to limit the application of this section.
She's not allowed to endorse products.
Right. She didn't gain. That's the point I keep making. Do you understand Goya didn't pay her? You don't, do you?
Hunter on the other hand got his daddy to redirect millions of dollars his way and you don't give a shit
You might want to sign up for a remedial reading class, that's not what the law says.
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Yes, it does.
(c) Endorsements. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise except:
(1) In furtherance of statutory authority to promote products, services or enterprises; or
(2) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency's mission.
5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.
www.law.cornell.edu
Did you read the title of the law?
Use of public office for private gain.
ROFLMFAO, what do you fail to understand, there was no private gain, dip.
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Does a company benefit from having celebrities endorse their product?
WOW, now you're trying to move the goal posts because you're getting your ass kicked. Good job commie, your deflection doesn't even warrant a response since it's COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
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The title is call use of office for private gain.
Endorsement of a product provides that company with a gain.
Chuck Schumer endorses Junior's Cheesecake as "best ever". Clear violation of law.
Hey, colfax_m is Chuck exempt from the law prohibiting endorsing products too? Should we hold an unpaid "govt employee" to a higher standard than the Senate Minority Leader? Schumer confirms spending $8K on cheesecake in 10 years: 'Guilty as charged' Senate Minority Leader Charles...www.usmessageboard.com
Care to quote where it is limited to the executive branch?
5 CFR § 2635.102 - Definitions.
www.law.cornell.edu
Read the definition of employee and tell me what you find.
colfax_m is now trying to sell that members of Congress are not "Govt employees".
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
What did you find?
Sorry for your colossal ignorance.
My ignorance? You're the one that refuses to actually read the law in question. If you did, you'd realize you're wrong which is why you won't do it.
Coward.
I just did.It says she wasn’t an employee but after people criticized her for trying to evade the rules, she became an employee.Im not giving you my opinion. I’m literally quoting Ivanka announcing that she’s a federal employee.No. No. No.I believe her title is special advisor to the president.Yes. Ivanka is an employee of the government.Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.
Experts: Ivanka Trump’s endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble
“Clearly a Violation” Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House...www.rawstory.com
Watch: Six Years Ago Obama Promised to Buy a Chevy Volt. Now It Is Dead
Yeah, but remember how the Democrats all wanted him investigated for that? Hmm ... I don't either ...
They will say as an elected official he isn't beholden to those rules. Of course, Trump's daughter isn't a civil service employee of the government, so her application vis a vis the law is probably hazy as well.
They got their soundbite, that's all they care about.
A civil servant with a title?
Paid? Civil Service? Senate Confirmed?
Any other questions?
The law they are quoting probably applies to a specific type of employee. Any idea which one it applies to?
It applies to almost everyone in government:
(h) Employee means any officer or employee of an agency, including a special Government employee. It includes officers but not enlisted members of the uniformed services. It includes employees of a State or local government or other organization who are serving on detail to an agency, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 3371, et seq. For purposes other than subparts B and C of this part, it does not include the President or Vice President. Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
employee
[emˈploiē, emˌploiˈē]
NOUN
Doesn't apply to volunteers, dip.
- a person employed for wages or salary,
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I don't know where you got that definition, maybe a dictionary.
But the legal definition written in law says this:
Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day.
Thanks for the effort, dip. You're wrong again.
Wrong, you have to be an employee to have a pay or leave status. Where ever you got your poor education, you should ask for a refund.
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Ivanka is an employee. Whether she is paid or not is irrelevant.
She said so herself:
“I will instead serve as an unpaid employee in the White House Office, subject to all of the same rules as other federal employees.”
Ivanka Trump To Be An Official White House Employee Covered By Ethics Rules
She already has an office in the West Wing. "I have been working closely ... with the White House Counsel and my personal counsel to address the unprecedented nature of my role," she said.www.npr.org
You’re about the third dumbass I’ve proven wrong at this point and y’all just run away without ever manning up and admitting it.
Your opinion isn't fact, actually it's more of a fantasy. LMAO
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Can you respond to the quote from Ivanka?
The same damn article says she's not.
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I swear, you guys are really shitty at reading.
Feel free to point out what I might have missed.
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She tried to get away with pretending she wasn’t an employee while doing everything an employee would do (such as having an office) but was called out on her attempt to evade accountability.
So she reversed course and accepted an official position.
Like I just explained to one of your uninformed comrades, she can't hold an official position, that would be illegal.
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Better tell the lawyers at the office of legal counsel because they seem to be just as uninformed as me.
DOJ: Hiring Kushner does not violate anti-nepotism law
The Justice Department concluded Friday that Jared Kushner serving in his father-in-law's administration would not be a violation of federal anti-nepotism laws.www.cnn.com
So, how bout it Tex. Going to double down and pretend you know the law better than the OLC? Not that it matters since the OLC opinion actually counts and your opinion doesn't.
Here's the memo.