‘It’s up to them’: Donald Trump says Canada will get a ‘much better deal’ if it becomes the 51st American state

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This much I am certain of, if I had been raised in a protected Constitution rather than a paperweight Charter of Rights, my life would have been significantly different without question. Canada has to give back peoples lives that have been stolen, it's not just the Natives who we destroyed, we've allowed the abuses of citizens to continue for decades. TPS, OPP, Peel Region have decimated Ontario alone with their creepy covert activities.

Trump admires people who have talent and ambition. This is the America he was raised in and it's why so many around the globe want to live in America. The one serious danger, and it still lingers and may even pick up steam again; is that Alberta in particular doesn't seem enamoured with our unaccountable centralized caste system. I thought it might disappear after the election but I heard someone in media state that it's probably approx. 50% of Albertans who would prefer to be the 51st State. That should worry Canada as our Police State continues to destroy lives, especially in Ontario.


U.S. President Donald Trump says Canada will soon pay a lot of money in tariffs if it cannot reach a speedy trade deal, and faces a $71 billion entry fee to join the “Golden Dome” missile defence project as he claimed Prime Minister Mark Carney wants — or it could choose the no-cost option of becoming his country’s 51st state.

Trump touted American statehood for Canada after he left the country, and the leaders had tasked their negotiating teams with a mandate to strike a deal quickly on punitive tariffs he’s slapped on Canadian products.

Trump has a long list of what he calls unfair Canadian trading practices, ranging from dairy quotas, banking rules and digital services taxes that hit U.S.-based big tech companies to sales taxes and even bilingual labelling laws. Sources say he pressed some of those concerns again with Carney when they met behind closed doors Monday.

Trump described their one-on-one meeting as “good,” but he repeated his assertion Monday that Carney’s team is looking for something more “complex” than he is, without elaborating.

“Well, they get too complex with the deals and they never get done, and we need speed,” Trump said.
The Canadians say they will try to stick a landing on a deal with Trump in the next 30 days.
Trump left the G7 summit in Kananaskis late Monday, telling reporters aboard Air Force One that Canada would have a “much better deal” if it became part of the United States — “but you know it’s up to them.”
“They’re going to have to pay a lot of tariffs and things, they’re going to have to pay a lot of money for the dome, for the iron (sic) dome,” he said.
“They want to be a part of it. We may make a separate deal on that by the way,” suggesting tariffs and a deal on the Golden Dome would be two different agreements.


“They want to be in: $71 billion,” Trump said, using a number higher than the $61 billion he has previously pegged as the price tag of Canada’s participation in ballistic missile shield.
Trump said he left the G7 summit early so he could be “more well versed” and not have to “use telephones” to get briefed in Washington. The White House said he left to deal with the escalating Iran-Israel crisis.

While Trump departed before a scheduled meeting Tuesday with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his delegation, G7 sources said he stayed until after a dinner with the G7 leaders on Monday evening precisely to discuss Iran and Ukraine and matters of global security.
Canadian officials in Alberta said they wouldn’t comment because Trump had said nothing new. Carney is scheduled to hold a closing news conference later Tuesday.
The only comment was from Industry Minister Mélanie Joly, who spoke to reporters from Paris, and said that she won’t “negotiate in public” about whether Canada will join Trump’s Golden Dome.
She also declined to discuss the possibility of additional counter-tariffs against American imports in response to Trump doubling tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.


Calling the American tariffs “not only illegal and unjustified” but “outrageous,” Joly reiterated comments that Canada is striving for “free trade in the real sense of the term.”
Carney’s starting position is that Trump must drop all tariffs and adhere to the Canada-U.S.-Mexico free trade deal the president signed in 2018.
Since Trump returned to the White House in January, he’s slapped so-called border tariffs, 50 per cent steel and aluminum tariffs, and 25 per cent auto tariffs on Canada, and levied a baseline 10 per cent tariff on U.S. trading partners globally while he negotiates “deals” to reduce additional “reciprocal” surcharges in exchange for concessions the U.S. wants.

“You know, we’re dealing with, really if you think about it, probably 175 countries, and most of them are just going to be sent a letter saying it would be an honour to trade with you and here’s what you have to pay to do it,” Trump said during his return flight to Washington.
Carney was set to meet Tuesday with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum on the sidelines of the summit.

Trump said his tariff policy — the objective of which is to repatriate manufacturing to the U.S. and act as a revenue-generator to deal with the U.S debt — is a success, and claimed it has already generated $88 billion in revenue.
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At the G7, Trump signed a new deal with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer that nevertheless retains a 10 per cent tariff on most British goods. He said there is a “chance” of a deal with Japan, but “they’re “tough,” while he said the European Union leaders were not “offering a fair deal yet.”
 
In case anybody is wondering, even if Canada wants to be the 51st state, the US Congress would have to approve it with 60 votes in the Senate. No offense to anybody, but why would Congress do that? Is there a gain for Canada and also for us? Why do it?
 
faces a $71 billion entry fee to join the “Golden Dome” missile defence project as he claimed Prime Minister Mark Carney wants — or it could choose the no-cost option of becoming his country’s 51st state.

Golden Dome does not exist without Canadian early warning radar sites
Russia really doesn’t target sites in Canada but they have to fly over Canada to reach the US
 
In case anybody is wondering, even if Canada wants to be the 51st state, the US Congress would have to approve it with 60 votes in the Senate. No offense to anybody, but why would Congress do that? Is there a gain for Canada and also for us? Why do it?
60 of 100 isn't doable?

Would the same apply to Greenland?
 
In case anybody is wondering, even if Canada wants to be the 51st state, the US Congress would have to approve it with 60 votes in the Senate. No offense to anybody, but why would Congress do that? Is there a gain for Canada and also for us? Why do it?
Why do Republicans want Canada as a state?
They are more liberal than California

Canada becomes a state and Republicans will lose the House and Presidency permanently
 
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Why do Republicans want Canada as a state?
They are more liberal than California

Canada becomes a state and Republicans will lose the House and Presidency permanently
Alberta and Saskatchewan are not liberal.

Most elections the vote is fairly even by the popular vote number, but there is a wide divide by region which general benefits liberals due to Ontario and Quebec.
 
This much I am certain of, if I had been raised in a protected Constitution rather than a paperweight Charter of Rights, my life would have been significantly different without question. Canada has to give back peoples lives that have been stolen, it's not just the Natives who we destroyed, we've allowed the abuses of citizens to continue for decades. TPS, OPP, Peel Region have decimated Ontario alone with their creepy covert activities.

Trump admires people who have talent and ambition. This is the America he was raised in and it's why so many around the globe want to live in America. The one serious danger, and it still lingers and may even pick up steam again; is that Alberta in particular doesn't seem enamoured with our unaccountable centralized caste system. I thought it might disappear after the election but I heard someone in media state that it's probably approx. 50% of Albertans who would prefer to be the 51st State. That should worry Canada as our Police State continues to destroy lives, especially in Ontario.


U.S. President Donald Trump says Canada will soon pay a lot of money in tariffs if it cannot reach a speedy trade deal, and faces a $71 billion entry fee to join the “Golden Dome” missile defence project as he claimed Prime Minister Mark Carney wants — or it could choose the no-cost option of becoming his country’s 51st state.

Trump touted American statehood for Canada after he left the country, and the leaders had tasked their negotiating teams with a mandate to strike a deal quickly on punitive tariffs he’s slapped on Canadian products.

Trump has a long list of what he calls unfair Canadian trading practices, ranging from dairy quotas, banking rules and digital services taxes that hit U.S.-based big tech companies to sales taxes and even bilingual labelling laws. Sources say he pressed some of those concerns again with Carney when they met behind closed doors Monday.

Trump described their one-on-one meeting as “good,” but he repeated his assertion Monday that Carney’s team is looking for something more “complex” than he is, without elaborating.

“Well, they get too complex with the deals and they never get done, and we need speed,” Trump said.
The Canadians say they will try to stick a landing on a deal with Trump in the next 30 days.
Trump left the G7 summit in Kananaskis late Monday, telling reporters aboard Air Force One that Canada would have a “much better deal” if it became part of the United States — “but you know it’s up to them.”
“They’re going to have to pay a lot of tariffs and things, they’re going to have to pay a lot of money for the dome, for the iron (sic) dome,” he said.
“They want to be a part of it. We may make a separate deal on that by the way,” suggesting tariffs and a deal on the Golden Dome would be two different agreements.


“They want to be in: $71 billion,” Trump said, using a number higher than the $61 billion he has previously pegged as the price tag of Canada’s participation in ballistic missile shield.
Trump said he left the G7 summit early so he could be “more well versed” and not have to “use telephones” to get briefed in Washington. The White House said he left to deal with the escalating Iran-Israel crisis.

While Trump departed before a scheduled meeting Tuesday with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his delegation, G7 sources said he stayed until after a dinner with the G7 leaders on Monday evening precisely to discuss Iran and Ukraine and matters of global security.
Canadian officials in Alberta said they wouldn’t comment because Trump had said nothing new. Carney is scheduled to hold a closing news conference later Tuesday.
The only comment was from Industry Minister Mélanie Joly, who spoke to reporters from Paris, and said that she won’t “negotiate in public” about whether Canada will join Trump’s Golden Dome.
She also declined to discuss the possibility of additional counter-tariffs against American imports in response to Trump doubling tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.


Calling the American tariffs “not only illegal and unjustified” but “outrageous,” Joly reiterated comments that Canada is striving for “free trade in the real sense of the term.”
Carney’s starting position is that Trump must drop all tariffs and adhere to the Canada-U.S.-Mexico free trade deal the president signed in 2018.
Since Trump returned to the White House in January, he’s slapped so-called border tariffs, 50 per cent steel and aluminum tariffs, and 25 per cent auto tariffs on Canada, and levied a baseline 10 per cent tariff on U.S. trading partners globally while he negotiates “deals” to reduce additional “reciprocal” surcharges in exchange for concessions the U.S. wants.

“You know, we’re dealing with, really if you think about it, probably 175 countries, and most of them are just going to be sent a letter saying it would be an honour to trade with you and here’s what you have to pay to do it,” Trump said during his return flight to Washington.
Carney was set to meet Tuesday with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum on the sidelines of the summit.

Trump said his tariff policy — the objective of which is to repatriate manufacturing to the U.S. and act as a revenue-generator to deal with the U.S debt — is a success, and claimed it has already generated $88 billion in revenue.
ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW

At the G7, Trump signed a new deal with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer that nevertheless retains a 10 per cent tariff on most British goods. He said there is a “chance” of a deal with Japan, but “they’re “tough,” while he said the European Union leaders were not “offering a fair deal yet.”
The way that Canadian politics leans I don't think the US needs another California.
 
Alberta and Saskatchewan are not liberal.

Most elections the vote is fairly even by the popular vote number, but there is a wide divide by region which general benefits liberals due to Ontario and Quebec.
Canada as a whole is liberal

Trump is not threatening Alberta and Saskatchewan
 
The way that Canadian politics leans I don't think the US needs another California.
You know that most of the provinces are run by some permutation of Conservative right? Though I believe that some of them aren't big fans of civil liberties, due process or the like

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60 of 100 isn't doable?

I don't know if it's doable or not, these days it's hard to get anything passed in Congress. There would have to be reasons why the dems and the repubs would both vote for it but I don't know what those reasons might be. As an Indy, I don't know why I would want Canada to become a US state, meaning no offense but business is business.

Same deal with Greenland, why would we want to do that? I'm not seeing the gain in national security for either action. It feels like Trump wanting to create a lasting legacy.




Would the same apply to Greenland?


I think so, yes. Same as Puerto Rico.
 
In case anybody is wondering, even if Canada wants to be the 51st state, the US Congress would have to approve it with 60 votes in the Senate. No offense to anybody, but why would Congress do that? Is there a gain for Canada and also for us? Why do it?


Per the Constitution, it is a simple majority vote in both Houses.
 
Why do Republicans want Canada as a state?
They are more liberal than California

Canada becomes a state and Republicans will lose the House and Presidency permanently


I don't want all Canada, just Alberta and Saskatchewan, perhaps BC too.
 
Neither Canada nor Greenland will ever become States. However, a Puerto Rico/Alberta deal might be possible.
 
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It takes only a House majority, but Senate filibuster rules require a minimum of 60 votes in the 100-member chamber to bring a bill to the floor — an insurmountable threshold these days for all kinds of key legislation other than reconciliation. So yeah, a simple majority vote in the Senate will do it, but that vote will never happen if there isn't 60 votes to stop the debate and vote on it.
 
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