fanger
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If one wished to sum up Jewish morality in one phrase, it would read as follows: “All is moral which brings advantage.”
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As an aside to your usual idiotic jingoisms you fail to see that a Palestinian State between Israel and the rest of the Arabs who want to destroy her is a natural geographic buffer. That's why Israel will support the two state solution after the settlements.No, the analogy would be the French allowing Germans to vote in Alsace-Lorraine.
The Germans in Alsace Lorraine do vote in French elections. They received French citizenship after WW1.
The Germans in Alsace Lorraine do vote in French elections.
Only the ones who became French citizens, the ones who weren't deported.
Arab citizens in Israel get to vote in Israeli elections.
The ones in the West Bank, the ones who aren't citizens, don't.
Just like the Germans in Germany don't vote in Alsace-Lorraine.
Without a Palestinian state, Israel will either have to give the right to vote to Palestinians or become an apartheid state like South Africa once was.
They should ship them all to Syria, just like many Germans were deported from other nations after WWII.
The Bantustan defense didn't work with Apartheid South Africa and it won't work with Apartheid Israel. Been there done that.
It worked alright after WWII when neighboring countries sent their German citizens back to Germany.
Send all the Arabs to Syria. Maybe the rich Gulf states can help finance their move?
In the end fortress Israel will be extinguished by a slow relentless Demographic Time Bomb.
If one wished to sum up Jewish morality in one phrase, it would read as follows: “All is moral which brings advantage.”
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
Quote
Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
Quote
Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
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So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL
Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL
Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.
You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.
Ok, I'll play your little game.
I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.
Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.
"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL
Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.
You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.
Ok, I'll play your little game.
I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.
Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.
"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
You are posting a pre-WWII document?
Are you high?
Are you Tinmore?
No problem...
I'll post Kings I & II and we'll kick all the Jordanians into Jordan.
There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).
Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.
Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL
Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.
You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.
Ok, I'll play your little game.
I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.
Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.
"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
You are posting a pre-WWII document?
Are you high?
Are you Tinmore?
No problem...
I'll post Kings I & II and we'll kick all the Jordanians into Jordan.
Trans-Jordania, and its status, is the subject of Boston's claim, its status was established in 1920. Try to follow the thread.
The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.
Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.
Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah
The goal is obvious
But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..
This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats
Another outright lie
Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.
See
Islamization of Israel
Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)
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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]
After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).
End Quote
So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)
False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.
Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.
The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.
See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.
"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE,
during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.
AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.
I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.
Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.
When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)
His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.