It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[playtime]

You do realize the vast majority of pedophilia is done by the irreligious, right?

including hundreds of priests that were allowed to flourish under the umbrella of the church.

And as for the RCC wealth, you're counting the many priceless works of art done as gifts of God that can't really be sold, such as the Sistine Chapel.

i'm counting the tangible artifacts that can be sold to feed the masses huddled outside the vatican.


EVERYTHINGNEWS
OCTOBER 1, 20207:37 AMUPDATED A YEAR AGO

Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency​

The Vatican economy minister, Father Juan Antonio Guerrero, said the Vatican’s total net assets in 2019 were about 4 billion euros, which is believed to be the first time any such figure has been given.

It does not include the Vatican bank and the Vatican museums, which are both big money-makers.

The 4.0 billion euro figure, which Guerrero gave in the interview without providing details, is all-encompassing, while the detailed consolidated statement regarded only the Holy See.
Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency

4 Billion EUR to USD – Euros to Dollars
Good Time
As of 15:00PM UTC four billion euros is equal to $4,459,761,246.68 (USD) or four billion four hundred fifty-nine million seven hundred sixty-one thousand two hundred forty-six dollars 68 cents. We use the midpoint between the buy and sell rates of EUR to USD at currency exchanges across the globe. The current exchange rate is equivalent to 1.1149.

Source: How much is € 4 Billion Euros (EUR) to Dollars (USD) – Currency Converter

i say buy them some birth control too.

It's as silly as saying the president is rich because he owns the White House.

he doesn't ... but he appoints the sec. of the treasury

But I understand. When you have an anti-religion bigoted view, details and truth are irrelevant

lol ... i am not anti religious. i am a christian. & i was raised a RC. so, there's that.

 

[Mashmont]

including hundreds of priests that were allowed to flourish under the umbrella of the church.



i'm counting the tangible artifacts that can be sold to feed the masses huddled outside the vatican.


EVERYTHINGNEWS
OCTOBER 1, 20207:37 AMUPDATED A YEAR AGO

Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency​

The Vatican economy minister, Father Juan Antonio Guerrero, said the Vatican’s total net assets in 2019 were about 4 billion euros, which is believed to be the first time any such figure has been given.

It does not include the Vatican bank and the Vatican museums, which are both big money-makers.

The 4.0 billion euro figure, which Guerrero gave in the interview without providing details, is all-encompassing, while the detailed consolidated statement regarded only the Holy See.
Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency

4 Billion EUR to USD – Euros to Dollars
Good Time
As of 15:00PM UTC four billion euros is equal to $4,459,761,246.68 (USD) or four billion four hundred fifty-nine million seven hundred sixty-one thousand two hundred forty-six dollars 68 cents. We use the midpoint between the buy and sell rates of EUR to USD at currency exchanges across the globe. The current exchange rate is equivalent to 1.1149.

Source: How much is € 4 Billion Euros (EUR) to Dollars (USD) – Currency Converter

i say buy them some birth control too.



he doesn't ... but he appoints the sec. of the treasury




lol ... i am not anti religious. i am a christian. & i was raised a RC. so, there's that.

$4 billion isn't very much for a huge international organization like the RCC. Michelle 0bama wasted more than that on her silly failed "Let's Move" initiative.
And when you consider so much of the art made as gifts to God can't really be sold, that figure is much lower. It's truly amazing the amount of great work the RCC does on a shoestring.

Odd how you don't want to talk about the huge majority of pedo cases committed by the irreligious. I guess the problem is irreligiosity. Even when you consider the few rogue miscreant gay priests who violated their vows and teaching of the church to abuse kids, the number of abuse cases is no higher than the population at large. Studies have shown this.

But again, this is all about anti-Catholic bigotry, so facts don't matter.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists​

The Final Letter, as Sent​

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

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So you base your argument of a slave holder?

 

[playtime]

$4 billion isn't very much for a huge international organization like the RCC.

not counting everything raked in from the other entities mentioned.

Michelle 0bama wasted more than that on her silly failed "Let's Move" initiative.

deflection noted & denied.

And when you consider so much of the art made as gifts to God can't really be sold, that figure is much lower. It's truly amazing the amount of great work the RCC does on a shoestring.

lol ... jesus preached on a rock. me thinx he & his dad aren't all that interested in riches that corrupt mens' souls. didn't timothy write about that?

Odd how you don't want to talk about the huge majority of pedo cases committed by the irreligious.

well, since it's a given, i didn't bother. why are YOU so reluctant to admit priests over many many MANY years were allowed to continue their sick irreligious behavior at the same time as preaching mass? & on the rare occasions when it got too hot to keep a priest in a particular parish ... he was tranferred to another where he can find fresh meat?

all with the blessing of the cardinal that allowed it.

I guess the problem is irreligiosity. Even when you consider the few rogue miscreant gay priests who violated their vows and teaching of the church to abuse kids, the number of abuse cases is no higher than the population at large. Studies have shown this.

But again, this is all about anti-Catholic bigotry, so facts don't matter.

most aren't 'gay' ... learn the difference. don't say 'few' because there were hundreds if not thousands over the years & those were the ones who got caught & were found out. just like with any pedophile.

& why aren't you blaming the hierarchy who did nothing to protect them?

i guess once the cord is cut - then it's about the money.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So you're saying these guys knew atheism would be the default and did this intentionally?

Mashmont wrote 22JAN29-POST#0228 above

NFBW wrote: No, that is not the tiniest fraction of a free man’s thought close to what I and others including Hollie , have written thus far regarding our founding fathers and the writing of the first of its kind Constitution centered around religious freedom and absolute tolerance of freedom of thought. Atheism is not some kind of default. I see multiculturalism as the founders intended default that makes America the greatest nation on earth, as is. - - - For purposes of discussion henceforth, personally I consider the dominant collective genius and writings of the first five presidents plus Ben Franklin Tom Paine and Ethan Allen to be the greatest gift to mankind more precious than all the holy sites and all the religious manuscripts, relics and structures scattered about the entire world. - - - You come here criticizing those “guys” because they didn’t want Jesus and his religion written into the Constitution as if that sacred document is not a gift at all - just an old rusted out pickup truck up on blocks in some trailer park that needs guys like you and Jesus to fix her up and get her running again. Is that clear? I ain’t buyin’ that truck even if your Jesus guy is the best mechanic that’s ever been and sent by almighty god himself. - - - I’m sticking with Nelson, a chestnut charger who carried General Washington safety throughout the Revolutionary War. Nelson was agnostic.

22JAN29-POST#0245​

 

[Clyde 154]

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

Examples:
Forcing Christian groups to pay for abortions and birth control for their employees.
Forcing Christian florists, photographers, and bakers to participate in gay weddings.
Distributing condoms in government schools to teens and preteens, suggesting that sex among these immature and obviously unmarried students is morally acceptable.
Using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions abroad.
Banning the Ten Commandments from government buildings (while flying the rainbow flag).
Banning the Nativity Scenes from government buildings.
Government sanction of Kwanzaa celebrations (a made-up racist ‘holiday’).
Disallowing references to Christmas in the public schools.
Teaching Critical Race Theory (which divides people and promotes hate).
Allowing gay marriage.

This is why the left screeches so loudly about “keeping religion out of government”. It’s because they know their atheism gets free reign if it doesn’t have to compete against Christianity.

The solution is two part: First, BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land. Then we end the abortion debate, the race-baiting issue, and the anti-capitalist pro-socialist issue once and for all. The country would once again be following God’s plan, church attendance would rise again, couples would marry instead of cohabitating, the gay marriage ruling would be repealed, families would stay together and be stronger, children would grow up in two-parent homes, so there would be far less crime. And best of all, ALL Marixst atheist disinformation would be stifled, and our children would stop being poisoned by it.

Let’s do it NOW!!

"Morality" cannot be legislated.....laws do nothing but reflect the morality or lack thereof of any free society. It can be no other way or you are not living in a representative free republic governed by the people but rather you are living in a state that is controlled, at the very least by an "Oligarchy" and at its worst, you are living in a state controlled by despotic force.

Regardless of what "flag" you wish to plant as the reason for THE CAUSE..........its not Christian when you attempt to force your philosophy of religion upon others. Hell..........Hitler claimed to be a Christian that was simply controlling the evil (that he professed) that was the JEW. There is no doctrine found in scripture that demands conversion through force. If you want such a doctrine simply convert to Islam and begin reading the Koran.

The founding fathers had a noble idea.......but as each generation passes, once the politicians figured out they could become wealthy and powerful via manipulating the will of the people (through targeted taxes) the US was doomed to fail. Its only a matter of time.......void of a total revolution the United States of America will find themselves in the same cesspool as is the majority of the world.......a world controlled primarily by a few rich and powerful banking families, self professed elites (elite because they control both the labor and currency).

The beginning of the end started under the reign of one Woodrow Wilson when the rich conned the people into establishing the Federal Reserve (that is in no way controlled by THE PEOPLE), controlled entirely by those same wealthy elite families.

 

[FA_Q2]

This happens every debate on atheism. When confronted, atheists retreat into "All we want to do is mind our own business and believe what we want to". But it never works that way with atheist regimes. They are always the most strident, the most violent, the most evil, as they seek to export their atheist cancer on other states.

Except we are a secular nation and Iran is a religious one. The United Kingdom is a secular nation now and was a religious one during the dark ages. Communist Russia was a secularist nation and Israel is a religions one.

Seems to me that stating "They are always the most strident, the most violent, the most evil" is clearly false. Evil comes in all stripes. What you find is that the combination of government and religion very often a horrific and evil institution.

And I notice that you failed to point to the law in question. I did not claim anything, YOU made the claim. And you are failing to back it up,

 

[Stann]

That's right. All the religions should step aside and default power to the atheists, according to you. You people like it JUST the way it is, with the atheists calling the shots.

If you want to see hell start here in the United States, just go ahead and name Christianity as the state religion. It would be the end of religion in this country not a revival as you think it would be. If you give a nation that power over religion it has the power to outlaw it all together.Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Stann]

If you want to see hell start here in the United States, just go ahead and name Christianity as the state religion. It would be the end of religion in this country not a revival as you think it would be. If you give a nation that power over religion it has the power to outlaw it all together.Be careful what you wish for.

Look at history. Rome had a state religion whose paganism for thousand years, basically overnight it was changed to Christianity, that only lasted a couple hundred years and then Rome collapsed all together.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Actually immoral acts damage all of society.

Revisiting this, primarily because you're a cowardly pussy.

You made the comment above, yet failed to answer when asked how someone jerking off to a porno magazine while smoking a joint damages anything.

C'mon, zealot, explain yourself...

 

[Mashmont]

"Morality" cannot be legislated.....laws do nothing but reflect the morality or lack thereof of any free society. It can be no other way or you are not living in a representative free republic governed by the people but rather you are living in a state that is controlled, at the very least by an "Oligarchy" and at its worst, you are living in a state controlled by despotic force.

Regardless of what "flag" you wish to plant as the reason for THE CAUSE..........its not Christian when you attempt to force your philosophy of religion upon others. Hell..........Hitler claimed to be a Christian that was simply controlling the evil (that he professed) that was the JEW. There is no doctrine found in scripture that demands conversion through force. If you want such a doctrine simply convert to Islam and begin reading the Koran.

The founding fathers had a noble idea.......but as each generation passes, once the politicians figured out they could become wealthy and powerful via manipulating the will of the people (through targeted taxes) the US was doomed to fail. Its only a matter of time.......void of a total revolution the United States of America will find themselves in the same cesspool as is the majority of the world.......a world controlled primarily by a few rich and powerful banking families, self professed elites (elite because they control both the labor and currency).

The beginning of the end started under the reign of one Woodrow Wilson when the rich conned the people into establishing the Federal Reserve (that is in no way controlled by THE PEOPLE), controlled entirely by those same wealthy elite families.

You people continue to post without reading. For the now tenth time, I said nothing about demanding conversion through force. That is a strawman lie. My plan is simply to allow only laws that do not violate Christian teaching, and to disallow the media complex from advocating an atheist agenda. But if we keep the way we're going and allow atheism to be the law of the land due to the banning of religion, then you'll see your 'forced conversion' Soviet style in due time.

 

[Mashmont]

Revisiting this, primarily because you're a cowardly pussy.

You made the comment above, yet failed to answer when asked how someone jerking off to a porno magazine while smoking a joint damages anything.

C'mon, zealot, explain yourself...

I'll respond to you when you exhibit some decency in your posting. You wouldn't dare talk to me like this in person. You won't do it here. Understood?

 

[Canon Shooter]

I'll respond to you when you exhibit some decency in your posting. You wouldn't dare talk to me like this in person. You won't do it here. Understood?

Eat a dick, you little bitch. There was no reason not to answer it when I first asked you, yet you proved to be a fucking failure. Now, you're not explaining it because you (and everyone else here, by the way) knows you can't. Piece of shit zealots rarely can.

They just want what they want and they're too fucking stupid to know why.

You're the type of scumbag who only wants things his way, and who is completely incapable of explaining or justifying his stupid points.

I'll talk to you anyway I want to, you ball-gargling shit stain.

Understood?

 

[Canon Shooter]

My plan is simply to allow only laws that do not violate Christian teaching, and to disallow the media complex from advocating an atheist agenda.

So, now you not only want Christian based laws, but you want Christianity to control the media, as well??

People like you need to be rounded up and sent away. You're not only fucking stupid, you're mindset is dangerous...

 

[FA_Q2]

including hundreds of priests that were allowed to flourish under the umbrella of the church.



i'm counting the tangible artifacts that can be sold to feed the masses huddled outside the vatican.


EVERYTHINGNEWS
OCTOBER 1, 20207:37 AMUPDATED A YEAR AGO

Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency​

The Vatican economy minister, Father Juan Antonio Guerrero, said the Vatican’s total net assets in 2019 were about 4 billion euros, which is believed to be the first time any such figure has been given.

It does not include the Vatican bank and the Vatican museums, which are both big money-makers.

The 4.0 billion euro figure, which Guerrero gave in the interview without providing details, is all-encompassing, while the detailed consolidated statement regarded only the Holy See.
Vatican releases financial figures, promises transparency

4 Billion EUR to USD – Euros to Dollars
Good Time
As of 15:00PM UTC four billion euros is equal to $4,459,761,246.68 (USD) or four billion four hundred fifty-nine million seven hundred sixty-one thousand two hundred forty-six dollars 68 cents. We use the midpoint between the buy and sell rates of EUR to USD at currency exchanges across the globe. The current exchange rate is equivalent to 1.1149.

Source: How much is € 4 Billion Euros (EUR) to Dollars (USD) – Currency Converter

i say buy them some birth control too.



he doesn't ... but he appoints the sec. of the treasury




lol ... i am not anti religious. i am a christian. & i was raised a RC. so, there's that.

What a gross lie. I thought lying was against Christian faith.

There is no snowballs chance in hell that the Catholic church is worth anywhere near a scant 4 billion euro - they have FAR more wealth than that. The reach of the church spans the entire globe and has its own country filled with historical objects and artwork from several centuries. They encompass massive hospitals and cathedrals and millions of adherents that send them money every fucking month.

The article claims 1.4 billion adherents world wide (not sure I trust that figure) AND they claim just 4 billion euro? Sure.

 

[Mashmont]

not counting everything raked in from the other entities mentioned.

It takes money to run the vast great charitable enterprises run by the Catholic Church. It's really amazing how they can do it.

deflection noted & denied.



lol ... jesus preached on a rock. me thinx he & his dad aren't all that interested in riches that corrupt mens' souls. didn't timothy write about that?

Priests and sisters aren't living in luxury. Priestly orders take vows of poverty. You must be thinking of leftwing leaders of the Democrat Party stealing taxpayer money while they talk a great game about helping the poor while they live in luxury. Catholic Church employees aren't doing that except for the exceedingly rare rogue who violates his faith.

well, since it's a given, i didn't bother. why are YOU so reluctant to admit priests over many many MANY years were allowed to continue their sick irreligious behavior at the same time as preaching mass? & on the rare occasions when it got too hot to keep a priest in a particular parish ... he was tranferred to another where he can find fresh meat?

all with the blessing of the cardinal that allowed it.

Abuse in the US RCC has dropped dramatically since American seminaries started banning gay applicants in 2005. But if you are truly outraged by pedophilia, you need look no further than your atheist public school system in which pedophilia is increasing even today, and convicted teachers are STILL able to get teaching jobs in other districts.

most aren't 'gay' ... learn the difference. don't say 'few' because there were hundreds if not thousands over the years & those were the ones who got caught & were found out. just like with any pedophile.

& why aren't you blaming the hierarchy who did nothing to protect them?

i guess once the cord is cut - then it's about the money.

All men who molest boys are gay by definition. NAMBLA itself admits this on their website.

 

[FA_Q2]

You people continue to post without reading. For the now tenth time, I said nothing about demanding conversion through force. That is a strawman lie. My plan is simply to allow only laws that do not violate Christian teaching, and to disallow the media complex from advocating an atheist agenda. But if we keep the way we're going and allow atheism to be the law of the land due to the banning of religion, then you'll see your 'forced conversion' Soviet style in due time.

You people continue to post without reading. For the now tenth time, I said nothing about demanding conversion through force.


Then followed by:


My plan is simply to allow only laws that do not violate Christian teaching, and to disallow the media complex from advocating an atheist agenda.


You just said you do not want forced conversion and then flow right into using force to suppress things that are not Christian.


Just. Like. Iran.

 

[Mashmont]

You people continue to post without reading. For the now tenth time, I said nothing about demanding conversion through force.


Then followed by:


My plan is simply to allow only laws that do not violate Christian teaching, and to disallow the media complex from advocating an atheist agenda.


You just said you do not want forced conversion and then flow right into using force to suppress things that are not Christian.


Just. Like. Iran.

Just because the government stops allowing the media and the legal system to push atheism doesn't mean the citizens must change your beliefs. Iran doesn't push Christianity, so I don't see the comparison. It's much more like an atheist regime.

 

[Canon Shooter]

It takes money to run the vast great charitable enterprises run by the Catholic Church. It's really amazing how they can do it.

No kidding, especially considering the vast sums of money they've had to pay out in settlements because their priests were fucking little boys...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I said nothing about demanding conversion through force.

Mashmont wrote 22JAN29-POST#0251 above

NFBW wrote: But the easily observable observable fact is going on in Texas
where Christian law, Including bounty hunting on violators is being applied to women who are deprived of their right to control their own bodies. That is religious intolerance gone psycho. And it is exactly the use of force and coercion to attain a religious end. Your denial lacks credibility my Catholic authoritarian friend. And Jesus was silent on abortion.

22JAN29-POST#0260