Its Tamir's Fault...

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Oh and heres something for the defenders of the cop

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Cleveland police officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice had issues with handling guns during his brief tenure with a suburban police department.

A Nov. 29, 2012 letter contained in Tim Loehmann's personnel file from the Independence Police Department says that during firearms qualification training he was "distracted" and "weepy."

"He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal," according to the letter written by Deputy Chief Jim Polak of the Independence police.

The letter recommended that the department part ways with Loehmann, who went on to become a police officer with the Cleveland Division of Police.

"I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct the deficiencies," Polak said.

Cleveland police said on Wednesday that they never reviewed the Independence file and changed their policies to include checking publicly available records for potential hires.

Loehmann is currently under investigation by the Cleveland police department's use of deadly force investigation team, made up of homicide detectives, several internal units and city and Cuyahoga County prosecutors in the Nov. 22 shooting outside the Cudell Recreation Center.

Loehmann shot Tamir less than two seconds after he arrived to investigate a complaint about Tamir carrying what turned out to be a fake gun.

 

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It s Tamir Rice s fault - The Washington Post


As if the November 2014 Cleveland police shooting of Tamir Rice wasn’t bad enough. The Post’s Wesley Lowery reports that the city of Cleveland is blaming the 12-year-old who was playing with a toy gun in a park near his home for his own death. In response to the federal lawsuit filed by Tamir’s family, city officials accuse Tamir of “failure…to exercise due care to avoid injury.”

Right. It’s Tamir’s fault that the 911 caller’s admonition that the gun he was playing with was “probably fake” never made it to the officers.

It’s Tamir’s fault that he was shot and killed by police officer Timothy Loehmann just “1½ to 2 seconds” after his car arrived on the scene.

It’s Tamir’s fault that Loehmann quit his previous police job before he was dismissed for “deficiencies” only to be hired by a police department nowunder federal investigation for “allegations that CPD officers use excessive force, including unreasonable deadly force.”

It’s Tamir’s fault that first aid was administered, not by Loehmann or his partner, but by an FBI agent who happened to be in the area — four minutes after Tamir was shot.

And it’s Tamir’s fault that he was not seen as a child. “Shots fired, male down, um, black male, maybe 20,” one of the officers said when calling in the shooting. Or as Cleveland Police Patrolman’s Association president Steve Loomis told Politico magazine, “He’s menacing. He’s 5-feet-7, 191 pounds. He wasn’t that little kid you’re seeing in pictures. He’s a 12-year-old in an adult body.” Given everything we know now about his case, the rest of Loomis’s quote is literally and figuratively unbelievable.

That black children don’t get to be children, as Stacey Patton reminded in an op-ed for The Post last November, is as enraging as it is heartbreaking. The Cleveland response to the Rice family lawsuit is but further proof that African American men and boys must live their lives beyond reproach, devoid of mistakes and bad choices at any age, if they are to avoid being blamed for their own death.



Isnt it amazing how its always the guys fault who is full of bullets and cant give his versions fault?

What a shame his family didn't teach him common courtesy and some survival skills too.

 

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No they were really scared of the 12 year old boy...

I watched the extended video, it's impossible to tell he's a boy or that the gun wasn't real so you're being dramatic.

Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy


Gonna double down on the drama huh? The kid could have been an adult going by the video. Most people can't pick up the age through extra sensory perception like yourself.

The shooting happened fast but many slow cops are dead.

Ahh the old emotional plea.

You call facts emotions?

Somehow the poor kid didn't not know it was wrong to play around pointing a realistic looking gun, and he did it a good while, must have scared the shit out of a lot of people. Did his mother not teach him anything or know about the gun? I'd put more of the blame on her.

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I just said it was his mom's fault. Do you read the posts before responding?

Its everyone elses fault but the person doign the shooting. Par for the course really.

 

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No they were really scared of the 12 year old boy...

I watched the extended video, it's impossible to tell he's a boy or that the gun wasn't real so you're being dramatic.

Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy

The shooting happened fast but many slow cops are dead.

Ahh the old emotional plea.

Somehow the poor kid didn't not know it was wrong to play around pointing a realistic looking gun, and he did it a good while, must have scared the shit out of a lot of people. Did his mother not teach him anything or know about the gun? I'd put more of the blame on her.

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I'll make it simple. If you go for a gun vs a cop...you're probably getting shot. All the other shit is irrelevant.

 

[bucs90]

No they were really scared of the 12 year old boy...

I watched the extended video, it's impossible to tell he's a boy or that the gun wasn't real so you're being dramatic.

Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy


Gonna double down on the drama huh? The kid could have been an adult going by the video. Most people can't pick up the age through extra sensory perception like yourself.

The shooting happened fast but many slow cops are dead.

Ahh the old emotional plea.

You call facts emotions?

Somehow the poor kid didn't not know it was wrong to play around pointing a realistic looking gun, and he did it a good while, must have scared the shit out of a lot of people. Did his mother not teach him anything or know about the gun? I'd put more of the blame on her.

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I just said it was his mom's fault. Do you read the posts before responding?

Its everyone elses fault but the person doign the shooting. Par for the course really.

What about the person reaching for the gun? You're mad that the cop was quicker.

Tamir acted. The cop reacted.

Who you mad at? The person who went for a gun...or the person who reacted to it?

 

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No they were really scared of the 12 year old boy...

I watched the extended video, it's impossible to tell he's a boy or that the gun wasn't real so you're being dramatic.

Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy


Gonna double down on the drama huh? The kid could have been an adult going by the video. Most people can't pick up the age through extra sensory perception like yourself.

The shooting happened fast but many slow cops are dead.

Ahh the old emotional plea.

You call facts emotions?

Somehow the poor kid didn't not know it was wrong to play around pointing a realistic looking gun, and he did it a good while, must have scared the shit out of a lot of people. Did his mother not teach him anything or know about the gun? I'd put more of the blame on her.

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I just said it was his mom's fault. Do you read the posts before responding?

Its everyone elses fault but the person doign the shooting. Par for the course really.

What about the person reaching for the gun? You're mad that the cop was quicker.

Tamir acted. The cop reacted.

Who you mad at? The person who went for a gun...or the person who reacted to it?

That's a nice story but one even the police disagree with. Once again you're caught just making it up

 

[bucs90]

I watched the extended video, it's impossible to tell he's a boy or that the gun wasn't real so you're being dramatic.

Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy


Gonna double down on the drama huh? The kid could have been an adult going by the video. Most people can't pick up the age through extra sensory perception like yourself.

The shooting happened fast but many slow cops are dead.

Ahh the old emotional plea.

You call facts emotions?

Somehow the poor kid didn't not know it was wrong to play around pointing a realistic looking gun, and he did it a good while, must have scared the shit out of a lot of people. Did his mother not teach him anything or know about the gun? I'd put more of the blame on her.

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I just said it was his mom's fault. Do you read the posts before responding?

Its everyone elses fault but the person doign the shooting. Par for the course really.

What about the person reaching for the gun? You're mad that the cop was quicker.

Tamir acted. The cop reacted.

Who you mad at? The person who went for a gun...or the person who reacted to it?

That's a nice story but one even the police disagree with. Once again you're caught just making it up

So Tamir didnt make a move for the gun?

 

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Hmmm so the cop couldnt see the kid because he was watching the video? Sorry for being dramatic about a cop shooting a 12 year old....I should be more jovial. Or make jokes like some people here have done. Black people being assaulted seems to bring joy


Gonna double down on the drama huh? The kid could have been an adult going by the video. Most people can't pick up the age through extra sensory perception like yourself.


Ahh the old emotional plea.

You call facts emotions?

Of course you would. Anytime a black person is abused, assaulted or killed its his own fault.....Didnt you read the OP?

I just said it was his mom's fault. Do you read the posts before responding?

Its everyone elses fault but the person doign the shooting. Par for the course really.

What about the person reaching for the gun? You're mad that the cop was quicker.

Tamir acted. The cop reacted.

Who you mad at? The person who went for a gun...or the person who reacted to it?

That's a nice story but one even the police disagree with. Once again you're caught just making it up

So Tamir didnt make a move for the gun?

The police disagree with you. They've already apologized.

And you're just making it up

 

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I don't think I was ever stupid enough to wave a realistic gun around at a cop. Darwin in action.

He didnt wave anything. The cop shot him in less than 1 second

Sure he did.

Must have been a real Quick Draw McGraw.

How many Dumbass kids have to get shot before they learn to stop waving a toy gun around in public?

 

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Yeah kids have only been playing with toy guns for more than a century. When will it stop?

 

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Yeah kids have only been playing with toy guns for more than a century. When will it stop?

Yeah, we stood around on the sidewalk by ourselves pointing realistic guns around for long periods of time, dressed like thugs.

LOL

 

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The "scary black guy" defense used on a 13 year old huh.

Well...the police disagree with you, sorry not sorry