It’s passion week

[ThoughtCrimes]

remember all Thru the week what the Savior did for you.

Why don't you put that into practice and remove that disgusting and false meme from your signature line? It's over the top HYPOCRISY!

Sometimes blunt honesty can be a little tough

You can try and rationalize away the lie in that meme about selling body parts by trying to put it over as "blunt honesty" but that dog is dead and can't hunt. To support that type of falsehood as truth is to lie, and then to post an OP with the message of Christ's sacrifice and redemption is beyond the pale.

Did you have family at Mountain Meadows back in the day? The Mormon morality of that episode then and the one you display within the single post to begin this thread now are of the same caliber. Sanctimonious Hypocrisy!

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

And that has not a damn thing to do with the message in the meme you display so proudly or the HYPOCRISY of the conflicting messages in your OP. Those being the sacrifice and love of Christ from one side of your intent and the dogmatic, opinionated and subjective partisan HATE of the other which you believe are simpatico and can be rationalized away. You are a fine representative of the Pharisees of old.

 

[tyroneweaver]

remember all Thru the week what the Savior did for you.

Why don't you put that into practice and remove that disgusting and false meme from your signature line? It's over the top HYPOCRISY!

Sometimes blunt honesty can be a little tough

You can try and rationalize away the lie in that meme about selling body parts by trying to put it over as "blunt honesty" but that dog is dead and can't hunt. To support that type of falsehood as truth is to lie, and then to post an OP with the message of Christ's sacrifice and redemption is beyond the pale.

Did you have family at Mountain Meadows back in the day? The Mormon morality of that episode then and the one you display within the single post to begin this thread now are of the same caliber. Sanctimonious Hypocrisy!

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

And that has not a damn thing to do with the message in the meme you display so proudly or the HYPOCRISY of the conflicting messages in your OP. Those being the sacrifice and love of Christ from one side of your intent and the dogmatic, opinionated and subjective partisan HATE of the other which you believe are simpatico and can be rationalized away. You are a fine representative of the Pharisees of old.

A person who sides with the unborn and defenseless can hardly be described as hateful
It’s abundantly clear the cruel and torturous practice you are defending

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Why don't you put that into practice and remove that disgusting and false meme from your signature line? It's over the top HYPOCRISY!

Sometimes blunt honesty can be a little tough

You can try and rationalize away the lie in that meme about selling body parts by trying to put it over as "blunt honesty" but that dog is dead and can't hunt. To support that type of falsehood as truth is to lie, and then to post an OP with the message of Christ's sacrifice and redemption is beyond the pale.

Did you have family at Mountain Meadows back in the day? The Mormon morality of that episode then and the one you display within the single post to begin this thread now are of the same caliber. Sanctimonious Hypocrisy!

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

And that has not a damn thing to do with the message in the meme you display so proudly or the HYPOCRISY of the conflicting messages in your OP. Those being the sacrifice and love of Christ from one side of your intent and the dogmatic, opinionated and subjective partisan HATE of the other which you believe are simpatico and can be rationalized away. You are a fine representative of the Pharisees of old.

A person who sides with the unborn and defenseless can hardly be described as hateful
It’s abundantly clear the cruel and torturous practice you are defending

A person who sides with the unborn and defenseless can hardly be described as hateful
It’s abundantly clear the cruel and torturous practice you are defending

Is that to which I took exception? NOPE!

Your attempts to yet again change the narrative away from the conflicting HYPOCRITICAL messages in your OP is duly noted along with the unwarranted ad hominem as implied! Another dishonest trait of yours it seems.

To continue to defend your HYPOCRISY with further sanctimony as a cover for the false, detestable and demeaning message in the meme that PURPOSEFULLY portrays Planned Parenthood as SELLERS of body parts is a bloody lie that you support as truth, to merely appease your own conflicted duality you refuse to recognize.

 

[HaShev]

remember all Thru the week what the Savior did for you.

SO Baal is your savior?
YEAH, it's BAAL'S PASSION PLAY found as far back as on 700bc tablets predating the story Jesus plagiarism.
Jesus death scene came from The Marduk's Ordeal tablet (Baal's Passion Play) as the mythology of Bel (Baal).
It sits in The British Museum and you can research it online.
Isn't the information age a wonderful thing?
the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.(3day resurrection)

Jesus became our Passover

1)the lamb at passover is a bad thing, it represented mocking the Egyptian idol god (Lamb) in order to repulse the Egyptians into being expelled from their land thus let go from enslavement.
2)the passover executed figure was Yeshu the forbidden Egyptian influenced sorcerer of 100bc.
Far cry from your Herod era and Pilate era Christs who are also combined in the trinity of christs into the Luciferian image called Jesus (son of Baal).
LEARN YOUR JEWISH HOLIDAYS before you try and hijack and bastardize them.

 

[irosie91]

sheeeesh-------the jesus saga is a SPIN-OFF ? clever

 

[tyroneweaver]

Sometimes blunt honesty can be a little tough

You can try and rationalize away the lie in that meme about selling body parts by trying to put it over as "blunt honesty" but that dog is dead and can't hunt. To support that type of falsehood as truth is to lie, and then to post an OP with the message of Christ's sacrifice and redemption is beyond the pale.

Did you have family at Mountain Meadows back in the day? The Mormon morality of that episode then and the one you display within the single post to begin this thread now are of the same caliber. Sanctimonious Hypocrisy!

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

Doctors get paid to perform abortions. End of conversation

And that has not a damn thing to do with the message in the meme you display so proudly or the HYPOCRISY of the conflicting messages in your OP. Those being the sacrifice and love of Christ from one side of your intent and the dogmatic, opinionated and subjective partisan HATE of the other which you believe are simpatico and can be rationalized away. You are a fine representative of the Pharisees of old.

A person who sides with the unborn and defenseless can hardly be described as hateful
It’s abundantly clear the cruel and torturous practice you are defending

A person who sides with the unborn and defenseless can hardly be described as hateful
It’s abundantly clear the cruel and torturous practice you are defending

Is that to which I took exception? NOPE!

Your attempts to yet again change the narrative away from the conflicting HYPOCRITICAL messages in your OP is duly noted along with the unwarranted ad hominem as implied! Another dishonest trait of yours it seems.

To continue to defend your HYPOCRISY with further sanctimony as a cover for the false, detestable and demeaning message in the meme that PURPOSEFULLY portrays Planned Parenthood as SELLERS of body parts is a bloody lie that you support as truth, to merely appease your own conflicted duality you refuse to recognize.

Happy Easter thoughtcrimes.

 

[tyroneweaver]

remember all Thru the week what the Savior did for you.

SO Baal is your savior?
YEAH, it's BAAL'S PASSION PLAY found as far back as on 700bc tablets predating the story Jesus plagiarism.
Jesus death scene came from The Marduk's Ordeal tablet (Baal's Passion Play) as the mythology of Bel (Baal).
It sits in The British Museum and you can research it online.
Isn't the information age a wonderful thing?
the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.(3day resurrection)

Jesus became our Passover

1)the lamb at passover is a bad thing, it represented mocking the Egyptian idol god (Lamb) in order to repulse the Egyptians into being expelled from their land thus let go from enslavement.
2)the passover executed figure was Yeshu the forbidden Egyptian influenced sorcerer of 100bc.
Far cry from your Herod era and Pilate era Christs who are also combined in the trinity of christs into the Luciferian image called Jesus (son of Baal).
LEARN YOUR JEWISH HOLIDAYS before you try and hijack and bastardize them.

Can anybody make sense of this??????

 

[onefour1]

I am one who does not believe that Good Friday was the day that Jesus was crucified.

Matthew 12:38-40
38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

For the life of me I cannot find 3 days and 3 nights from Jesus' death to the time he resurrected. If Jesus died and was buried before Saturday began, He would have been in the tomb Saturday Night, Saturday Day, and Sunday Night only. For when Mary, Mary and Salome came to anoint Jesus at the rising of the sun on the 1st day of the week which was Sunday, Jesus had already risen.

Mark 16:1-7
1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.

The arguments I read which state that he was crucified on Wednesday are those that I find most credible.



From an LDS perspective, Joseph Smith stated:

From History of the Church on the 6th day of April of 1833, Joseph Smith says,
"The day was spent in a very agreeable manner, in giving and receiving knowledge which appertained to this last kingdom - it being just 1800 years since the Savior laid down His life that men might have everlasting life, and only three years since the Church had come out of the wilderness, preparatory for the last dispensation." History of the Church, vol 1, pg 337.

It is interesting how Joseph Smith uses the word, "just" in the phrase, "it being just 1800 years since the Savior laid down His life that men might have everlasting life". I believe that Joseph Smith not only believe that Christ was crucified in 33 A.D. but that he was also crucified on April 6th. The Church was restored on April 6th as well. In Joseph Smith's day they were using the Gregorian calendar. Under the Gregorian calendar the church was restored on April 6th. If you go to timeanddate.com and look up when April 6th was according to the Gregorian calendar in 33 A.D. you will find that it fell on a Wednesday.

April 33 Calendar – Gregorian calendar

 

[HaShev]

Fact: John says his referred character is closer to 50 not 33. The only AD era christ at that era was Theudas by the Jordan who died 45ad for his revolt against Rome as did his martyrs.
The one who died at passover was Yeshu son of the Harlot Mary of 100bc probably died around 85bc. and he was stoned and hanged not crucified. Both these christs are not of the Herod or Lysanias era that would be Yehuda the crucified Galilean in 6bc who died for his tax revolt. NONE OF THESE ARE SINGULARLY JESUS, they merely help make the image seem historical and real by combining the trinity of christs with the trinity of mythologies into a new one world multi culture religion used to subvert many cultures under Rome's religious authority which masked it's political aspirations and control.
Sources:
The only historical christ figure in the AD era in the time of Pilate was Theudas by the Jordan (died 45ad)who's apostles were martyrs. That can't be the same figure Yehuda of Galilee in the time of Herod(died 4bc) and Lysanias (35bc) and Caesar (44bc).
Yehuda who was a tax revolter talking about Rome's taxes in the NT
is the one Bill O'Reilly uses for his book Killing Jesus, but that Christ is not the one who's apostles were Martyrs.
My History section post on compiled characters making Peter from the many Shimons helps make this point because the NT contradicts where the Christ first meets Shimon (each era christ had a Shimon) so the NT accidentally reveals the conflicting locations of the 2 christs and Shimons;
(a) By the sea of Galilee
(Matthew 4:18-22).
(b) On the banks of river Jordan
(John 1:42).
Josephus : on Yehuda the Galilean and the similar confused named thief murderer Yehuda the Galionite(used for the table turners & Jesus Barabbas scenes):
Book 18 chapter 1 is where the heart of the info on the tax revolt and teaching of the crucified Yehuda of Galilee is mentioned.
NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in
Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.
Neither the King Herod era christ nor AD Pilate era Christ have anything to do with the half Roman who the Harlot Church preferred named Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc, who is the one the NT says was slew(stoned)and hanged (not crucified like the other 2 were) "on Passover"-John 18-19 and Mark 14-15
Source: Acts 5:30 "Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree" Acts 10:39 "whom they slew and hanged on a tree" Acts 13:29 "they took him down from the tree" 1 Peter 2:24 "who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree" Galatians 3:13 "Christ... being made a curse upon us... Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree"
This is why I asked which christ are you calling Jesus, because in the real world we get to investigate and discuss the historical not the fictitious images of men who need new names to keep you from finding the poor schlep behind the image made perfect.
Sources Yeshu 100bc figure:
The figure (Yeshu)sent to death on Passover (per John 18-19 and Mark 14-15)
was stoned (slew) and hanged around 85bc.
Source: Acts 5:30 , Acts 10:39, Acts 13:29 , 1 Peter 2:24, Galatians 3:13.
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900


According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,

Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in Acts.
The early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus (the story of Yeshu ben Panderas called Yeshu ben Stada son of Mary Stada).

 

[shimon]

Fact: John says his referred character is closer to 50 not 33. The only AD era christ at that era was Theudas by the Jordan who died 45ad for his revolt against Rome as did his martyrs.
The one who died at passover was Yeshu son of the Harlot Mary of 100bc probably died around 85bc. and he was stoned and hanged not crucified. Both these christs are not of the Herod or Lysanias era that would be Yehuda the crucified Galilean in 6bc who died for his tax revolt. NONE OF THESE ARE SINGULARLY JESUS, they merely help make the image seem historical and real by combining the trinity of christs with the trinity of mythologies into a new one world multi culture religion used to subvert many cultures under Rome's religious authority which masked it's political aspirations and control.
Sources:
The only historical christ figure in the AD era in the time of Pilate was Theudas by the Jordan (died 45ad)who's apostles were martyrs. That can't be the same figure Yehuda of Galilee in the time of Herod(died 4bc) and Lysanias (35bc) and Caesar (44bc).
Yehuda who was a tax revolter talking about Rome's taxes in the NT
is the one Bill O'Reilly uses for his book Killing Jesus, but that Christ is not the one who's apostles were Martyrs.
My History section post on compiled characters making Peter from the many Shimons helps make this point because the NT contradicts where the Christ first meets Shimon (each era christ had a Shimon) so the NT accidentally reveals the conflicting locations of the 2 christs and Shimons;
(a) By the sea of Galilee
(Matthew 4:18-22).
(b) On the banks of river Jordan
(John 1:42).
Josephus : on Yehuda the Galilean and the similar confused named thief murderer Yehuda the Galionite(used for the table turners & Jesus Barabbas scenes):
Book 18 chapter 1 is where the heart of the info on the tax revolt and teaching of the crucified Yehuda of Galilee is mentioned.
NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in
Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.
Neither the King Herod era christ nor AD Pilate era Christ have anything to do with the half Roman who the Harlot Church preferred named Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc, who is the one the NT says was slew(stoned)and hanged (not crucified like the other 2 were) "on Passover"-John 18-19 and Mark 14-15
Source: Acts 5:30 "Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree" Acts 10:39 "whom they slew and hanged on a tree" Acts 13:29 "they took him down from the tree" 1 Peter 2:24 "who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree" Galatians 3:13 "Christ... being made a curse upon us... Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree"
This is why I asked which christ are you calling Jesus, because in the real world we get to investigate and discuss the historical not the fictitious images of men who need new names to keep you from finding the poor schlep behind the image made perfect.
Sources Yeshu 100bc figure:
The figure (Yeshu)sent to death on Passover (per John 18-19 and Mark 14-15)
was stoned (slew) and hanged around 85bc.
Source: Acts 5:30 , Acts 10:39, Acts 13:29 , 1 Peter 2:24, Galatians 3:13.
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900


According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,

Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in Acts.
The early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus (the story of Yeshu ben Panderas called Yeshu ben Stada son of Mary Stada).

They are too drunk on their WINE of the New Testament to get the joke or the correct info.... In their PASSION they don’t realize they are like a drunk women getting a ride in a taxi cab going your passing it your passing it to a man who is trying to kiss her and he thought she was saying your PASSIONate...All in all pretty funny if it wasn’t so sad...

 

[tyroneweaver]

I am one who does not believe that Good Friday was the day that Jesus was crucified.

Matthew 12:38-40
38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

For the life of me I cannot find 3 days and 3 nights from Jesus' death to the time he resurrected. If Jesus died and was buried before Saturday began, He would have been in the tomb Saturday Night, Saturday Day, and Sunday Night only. For when Mary, Mary and Salome came to anoint Jesus at the rising of the sun on the 1st day of the week which was Sunday, Jesus had already risen.

Mark 16:1-7
1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.

The arguments I read which state that he was crucified on Wednesday are those that I find most credible.



From an LDS perspective, Joseph Smith stated:

From History of the Church on the 6th day of April of 1833, Joseph Smith says,
"The day was spent in a very agreeable manner, in giving and receiving knowledge which appertained to this last kingdom - it being just 1800 years since the Savior laid down His life that men might have everlasting life, and only three years since the Church had come out of the wilderness, preparatory for the last dispensation." History of the Church, vol 1, pg 337.

It is interesting how Joseph Smith uses the word, "just" in the phrase, "it being just 1800 years since the Savior laid down His life that men might have everlasting life". I believe that Joseph Smith not only believe that Christ was crucified in 33 A.D. but that he was also crucified on April 6th. The Church was restored on April 6th as well. In Joseph Smith's day they were using the Gregorian calendar. Under the Gregorian calendar the church was restored on April 6th. If you go to timeanddate.com and look up when April 6th was according to the Gregorian calendar in 33 A.D. you will find that it fell on a Wednesday.

April 33 Calendar – Gregorian calendar

After reading about the Walker and Rawson girls, I was done with church history
And my dad was a Stake President