It’s Dumb and Dangerous for Liberals to Conflate All Conservatives With MAGA

[rightwinger]

MAGA means returning to a more prosperous America instead of allowing this country to be turned into a Socialist shithole

Trump invented MAGA as a code for a time before a “negro”was in the White House.
Trump’s political career was built on lies that Obama was not qualified to be President

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump invented MAGA as a code for a time before a “negro”was in the White House.
Trump’s political career was built on lies that Obama was not qualified to be President

Only a racist would see making America great again as a racist code

 

[toobfreak]

no need to be a bitch about it.

Certainly not as long as we have you.

 

[Curried Goats]

Certainly not as long as we have you.

Says the guy who can't accept the fact that the Founders were slavers and rapists. It's okay Snowflake. There there.

 

[beagle9]

You are using apostrophe S all wrong. It is used only to assign possession of an adjective such as "Republican's stupidity" or "Trump's criminality". It is not used to make a noun plural. As for your other horse shit the the laws, police and economy of this country are rigged against the poor. Pity black people are the only ones who know this.

So you got nothing... Thought so.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Questioning an Election is not supporting stolen election theories. Based on your own logic, you should not be supporting Democrats given their reaction to the elections of 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Conservatives ‘question’ the election with lies about the election being ‘stolen,’ lies about ‘fraud,’ and lies about President Biden not being the legitimate president.

Those lies are part of the right’s campaign to destroy America’s democracy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I said racist because MAGA is primarily a panicked reaction to demographic and ideological shifts in this country that threaten the long-held electoral supremacy of white people.

Correct.

And that unwarranted fear of demographic changes manifests as white grievance politics and racist replacement theory – both of which are fundamental to ‘MAGA’ dogma and rhetoric.

 

[beagle9]

No one has to make a case to you for change you little bitch. Change is our right to seek, regardless how you Soy Boys feel about it.

You calling people name's has to be the ultimate hypocrisy... ROTFLMBO.

If you support the Democrat, then you are an ultimate hypocrite using the language that you use. LOL

 

[beagle9]

Says the guy who can't accept the fact that the Founders were slavers and rapists. It's okay Snowflake. There there.

Says the guy who supports the party of racist and whatever else is attached to them. Why such a hypocrite?

 

[Lastamender]

I totally agree with this.....those on the left who demonize all Republicans and conservatives with the MAGA crowd are making a mistake..and alienating those whose support is crucial in getting rid of the MAGA/Trump/Q crowd.

MSN

More and more, liberals are attempting to cast all conservatives as enemies of democracy while simultaneously casting all of their political policies as pro-democracy. The consequences of this could be disastrous.
The most blatant example occurred during Joe Biden’s prime-time “Soul of America” speech earlier this month—a speech advertised as addressing conspiracy theories, political violence, and attempts to overthrow democracy.
In this context, Biden talked about how “MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards,” before hastening to add, “Backwards to an America where there is no right to choose…” In one fell swoop, Biden conflated “MAGA Republicans” who deny elections and participate in insurrections with Reagan Republicans who care about the right to life of unborn babies. There is no comparison.
But it’s not just social issues that get you written out of polite society. Fiscal conservatives are also suspect. In a tweet sent on Friday, Biden wrote that “Republicans have pushed an ultra-MAGA agenda to: Threaten Social Security and Medicare…Raise taxes on working families [and] Give big corporations and billionaires tax breaks.” Axios’s Josh Kraushaar called this “Defining down ‘ultra MAGA’ and noted that “Under this standard, Liz Cheney would qualify.”
And Biden isn’t the only one guilty of this. This past week, New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait took to Twitter to remind us that during the Tea Party era, then-Rep. Ron Desantis wrote a book that Chait sees as a Rosetta Stone for decoding conservatism’s illiberal tendencies. After reading the book, Chait surmises that: “The Constitution’s role, as DeSantis sees it, is to prevent popular majorities from enacting the economic policies they want.”

Conservatives have long worried that “A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury”—a line sometimes apocryphally attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville. This is very similar to what DeSantis was saying. Indeed, most of the lines that trouble Chait are standard boilerplate conservative rhetoric.

This attitude is counterproductive on multiple levels. First, of course, it’s terrible (morally and politically) to dismiss approximately half the country.
Second, instead of rising to the occasion and giving America at least one responsible, normal, or decent party, Democrats are taking political advantage of what could be considered a perilous moment.
Rather than acknowledging that reasonable people can have honest disagreements about public policy questions such as abortion (which you should ostensibly do in a democracy), Democrats are attempting to baptize and sanctify their political preferences in the holy waters of American democracy, which is (to extend the religious metaphor) unseemly and sacrilegious.
Third, this practice will likely lead to more, not less, MAGA extremists (an outcome which ought not to shock members of a party that has spent tens of millions of dollars helping to boost MAGA candidates in Republican primaries).
People who feel threatened are more likely to retreat to their tribe for protection. By creating a scenario where even “normal” non-Trump Republicans feel victimized and shamed, liberals risk making the radicalization of conservatism a self-fulfilling prophecy
I’m not sure they even see that as a problem.

It is dumb to call yourselves liberals when most of Democrats are just intolerant wonder babies.

 

[beagle9]

Correct.

And that unwarranted fear of demographic changes manifests as white grievance politics and racist replacement theory – both of which are fundamental to ‘MAGA’ dogma and rhetoric.

Spin it boy, spin it... You people are the ultimate whiner's.

 

[Curried Goats]

You calling people name's has to be the ultimate hypocrisy... ROTFLMBO.

What's hypocritical about it? Do you know what that word means you moron?

If you support the Democrat, then you are an ultimate hypocrite using the language that you use. LOL

So no, you don't know what hypocrite means....

Says the guy who supports the party of racist and whatever else is attached to them. Why such a hypocrite?

That's why the Democratic party is America's most diverse party.... because they're racist....

White wing logic is so adorable.

 

[beagle9]

Conservatives ‘question’ the election with lies about the election being ‘stolen,’ lies about ‘fraud,’ and lies about President Biden not being the legitimate president.

Those lies are part of the right’s campaign to destroy America’s democracy.

All you people needed to do, was to join with the majority of Americans that wanted transparency and a trial that would see all sides represented, but noooooo you and other's went crazy when the challenge's came. All anyone could think is that you all were hiding something, so it will never be settled now. Deal with it.

 

[Papageorgio]

I totally agree with this.....those on the left who demonize all Republicans and conservatives with the MAGA crowd are making a mistake..and alienating those whose support is crucial in getting rid of the MAGA/Trump/Q crowd.

MSN

More and more, liberals are attempting to cast all conservatives as enemies of democracy while simultaneously casting all of their political policies as pro-democracy. The consequences of this could be disastrous.
The most blatant example occurred during Joe Biden’s prime-time “Soul of America” speech earlier this month—a speech advertised as addressing conspiracy theories, political violence, and attempts to overthrow democracy.
In this context, Biden talked about how “MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards,” before hastening to add, “Backwards to an America where there is no right to choose…” In one fell swoop, Biden conflated “MAGA Republicans” who deny elections and participate in insurrections with Reagan Republicans who care about the right to life of unborn babies. There is no comparison.
But it’s not just social issues that get you written out of polite society. Fiscal conservatives are also suspect. In a tweet sent on Friday, Biden wrote that “Republicans have pushed an ultra-MAGA agenda to: Threaten Social Security and Medicare…Raise taxes on working families [and] Give big corporations and billionaires tax breaks.” Axios’s Josh Kraushaar called this “Defining down ‘ultra MAGA’ and noted that “Under this standard, Liz Cheney would qualify.”
And Biden isn’t the only one guilty of this. This past week, New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait took to Twitter to remind us that during the Tea Party era, then-Rep. Ron Desantis wrote a book that Chait sees as a Rosetta Stone for decoding conservatism’s illiberal tendencies. After reading the book, Chait surmises that: “The Constitution’s role, as DeSantis sees it, is to prevent popular majorities from enacting the economic policies they want.”

Conservatives have long worried that “A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury”—a line sometimes apocryphally attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville. This is very similar to what DeSantis was saying. Indeed, most of the lines that trouble Chait are standard boilerplate conservative rhetoric.

This attitude is counterproductive on multiple levels. First, of course, it’s terrible (morally and politically) to dismiss approximately half the country.
Second, instead of rising to the occasion and giving America at least one responsible, normal, or decent party, Democrats are taking political advantage of what could be considered a perilous moment.
Rather than acknowledging that reasonable people can have honest disagreements about public policy questions such as abortion (which you should ostensibly do in a democracy), Democrats are attempting to baptize and sanctify their political preferences in the holy waters of American democracy, which is (to extend the religious metaphor) unseemly and sacrilegious.
Third, this practice will likely lead to more, not less, MAGA extremists (an outcome which ought not to shock members of a party that has spent tens of millions of dollars helping to boost MAGA candidates in Republican primaries).
People who feel threatened are more likely to retreat to their tribe for protection. By creating a scenario where even “normal” non-Trump Republicans feel victimized and shamed, liberals risk making the radicalization of conservatism a self-fulfilling prophecy
I’m not sure they even see that as a problem.

I don’t think it is liberals, it is left wingers. True liberals are tolerant and more discerning and principled. I believe maga is wrong for America however it would be smart for all to understand why they have made the choice, and a big reason is for a long, long time, they feel they have not been heard. We need real Liberals and Conservatives who are better aligned with each other than the lefties or the righties.

 

[Curried Goats]

All you people needed to do, was to join with the majority of Americans that wanted transparency and a trial that would see all sides represented, but noooooo you and other's went crazy when the challenge's came. All anyone could think is that you all were hiding something, so it will never be settled now. Deal with it.

It settled you little bitch. Biden is your President.

 

[beagle9]

What's hypocritical about it? Do you know what that word means you moron?

So no, you don't know what hypocrite means....

That's why the Democratic party is America's most diverse party.... because they're racist....

White wing logic is so adorable.

Hidden racism can be found in the back channel's of the Democrat mindset, while using the store front window dressings to cover it up, and to do so in order to retain the power. Malcolm x stated that best in a video/speaking, but you all still ignore what is right there in front of your faces.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is a difference between Republicans and Trumplicans, that is why I try to use the term “Trumplican”….but that difference is in danger of becoming blurred the more Republicans get labeled RINO’s and drummed out of the party.

Like Nancy did with the blue dog Democrats?

 

[beagle9]

I don’t think it is liberals, it is left wingers. True liberals are tolerant and more discerning and principled. I believe maga is wrong for America however it would be smart for all to understand why they have made the choice, and a big reason is for a long, long time, they feel they have not been heard. We need real Liberals and Conservatives who are better aligned with each other than the lefties or the righties.

If these knuckleheads wouldn't have taken this nation down these rabbit holes, then you might could find the harmony in which you are suggesting should exist here, but it could be too late for all that now. When the abuse of children came to light, then that is a deal breaker.

 

[Curried Goats]

Hidden racism can be found in the back channel's of the Democrat mindset, while using the store front window dressings to cover it up, and to do so in order to retain the power. Malcolm x stated that best in a video/speaking, but you all still ignore what is right there in front of your faces.

Boy, you only quote Malcolm when you think it serves you. Malcolm X also said "Show me a capitalist and I'll show you a bloodsucker." I guess you agree with that too because Malcolm said it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Conservatives ‘question’ the election with lies about the election being ‘stolen,’ lies about ‘fraud,’ and lies about President Biden not being the legitimate president.

Those lies are part of the right’s campaign to destroy America’s democracy.

Questioning an Election where there were six (6) swing states where Trump was leading. Almost every state had some some sort of disruption late in the day and every one of those swing states went to Biden.

What are the odds of all of those events happening? Think about it statistically and not politically.