It's About Time

[Phoenall]

You have made abundantly clear that you are a supporter of South African Apartheid and so it is not surprising you support Israeli Apartheid. As I have always contended, pro-Israel Americans and Brits are racists that can practice and preach racism without fear of reproach because the their targets are Muslim and Christian Arabs.

Keep it up with tour lies Defeat67

This is what the guy wrote:

"Compared to now apartheid was freedom to work, live and be happy. Post apartheid and there is no freedom, no work, life is cheap and very few people are happy."

How can I be lying about his support of Apartheid? Why don't you stop it with these conditioned reflex responses and think before you post.

The whole idea of debate is to produce proof that your opponent is wrong, yiu have produced no proof just vile lies and libels. Is this because you know that I am correct and the black south Africans themselves are demanding a return of certain aspects of apartheid.

Read these and be educated ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST

Inequality in post-apartheid South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ANC Worse Than Apartheid; Zuma Must Rot In Jail ? Julius Malema | Daily Guide

Economic and Social Crisis in Post Apartheid South Africa | Global Research

Very unsettling views from the black people of south Africa, just as the views of the Christians in Palestine are unsettling.

 

[Phoenall]

You have made abundantly clear that you are a supporter of South African Apartheid and so it is not surprising you support Israeli Apartheid. As I have always contended, pro-Israel Americans and Brits are racists that can practice and preach racism without fear of reproach because the their targets are Muslim and Christian Arabs.

Yeah whereas you Pali supporters are the epitome of tolerance, peace, and co existence. Ha ha ha. Give it a break Nazi girl.

Well, yes. Most neutrals that view the oppression of Muslims and Christians by the Jews as wrong, are hoping for tolerance, peace and co-existence. You, on the other hand, wish for the continued oppression and domination of the Muslims and Christians of Palestine by the Jews.

WHY DO YOU LIE ALL THE TIME, is it a direct command from allah.

The Christians in Palestine are oppressed by the muslims, beaten, raped, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their homes and land, refused access to their holy sites. Is it any wonder they are leaving Palestine and moving to Israel.

Here we are again showing the LYING MUSLIM SCUM that it is the muslims doing the persecution of Christians

Palestinian Areas « Christian & Church Persecution

Congress Hears Testimony on ‘Flagrant’ Christian Persecution in Middle East
Friday, February 14th, 2014

Lawmakers listened to testimony from experts and religious leaders highlighting the persecution of Christians that is rampant across the Middle East. As a representative from the Vatican stated, Arab Christians “find themselves the target of constant harassment for no reason other than their religious faith.” The United States has an important role to play in leading the conversation to find solutions to religiously based discrimination and persecution.


Persecution of Christians: No Room at the Inn
Wednesday, December 25th, 2013

Slowly across the Western world we are seeing more and more political and thought leaders awake to the reality of Christian persecution, and the massive scale on which it is taking place across the Middle East. The horrific abuses have been largely ignored for a number of reasons from “political correctness,” fear of “doing God” in public, or taking sides in some sort of “clash of civilizations.” None of these, even if they were accurate, are justification for allowing massive crimes against humanity to take place with near total impunity and with little outcry from those countries who claim to be the defenders of human rights.


Hamas Cracks Down on Christians; Pushes Conversion to Islam
Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

Christians living in the Gaza Strip live under the reality of ongoing attacks on both churches and individuals. Living under the control of Hamas which considers Christians as infidels, the situation is more serious than you can imagine, Hazem Shanab said. Hamas controls all churches and mosques implements their ideology in all sectors of life, even to rewriting textbooks to match their worldview.


Christian Schools in Gaza Strip Threatened with Closure
Sunday, July 21st, 2013

As a result of a new degree issued by the Hamas government that oversees the Gaza strip five Christian schools are threatened to be unable to offer classes for more than 1000 students when classes are scheduled to start in September. The decree issued by the government places a ban on co-educational classes for all students over the age of 10. The result of this action, which is just another of the many pressures on Christians living in this area, will be that the schools are forced to close as the funds do not exist to recruit enough teachers or space and the impact will ripple through the community having effects on both the Christian and Muslim families who were served by the schools


And not a mention of Israel or Jews anywhere in these reports.

 

[Roudy]

"Neutrals". Bwahahahahah!

 

[MJB12741]

Israel is the homeland of the Jews. Are you suggesting it should be ruled by Muslims?

You have made abundantly clear that you are a supporter of South African Apartheid and so it is not surprising you support Israeli Apartheid. As I have always contended, pro-Israel Americans and Brits are racists that can practice and preach racism without fear of reproach because the their targets are Muslim and Christian Arabs.

Yeah whereas you Pali supporters are the epitome of tolerance, peace, and co existence. Ha ha ha. Give it a break Nazi girl.

Well, yes. Most neutrals that view the oppression of Muslims and Christians by the Jews as wrong, are hoping for tolerance, peace and co-existence. You, on the other hand, wish for the continued oppression and domination of the Muslims and Christians of Palestine by the Jews.

 

[MJB12741]

Let us all join together & pray those Zionists in Israel have learned their lesson to not provoke Palestinians into violence by giving in to their endless Palestinian demands.

 

[Hossfly]

"Neutrals". Bwahahahahah!

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

 

[Roudy]

"Neutrals". Bwahahahahah!

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

 

[montelatici]

"Neutrals". Bwahahahahah!

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

 

[Hossfly]

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

You don't get it that the Israelis are dealing with scheming Ayrabs for Christ's sake?

 

[toastman]

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

What is it with you and putting words in people's mouths

 

[montelatici]

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

You don't get it that the Israelis are dealing with scheming Ayrabs for Christ's sake?

Do you think that the Israelis are not good schemers too. Make a deal FFS.

 

[Roudy]

We don't need no stinking neutrals!

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

 

[MJB12741]

All religious holy institutions & sites for all faiths are protected by Israel. Even the Al Asqa Mosque built on the holy site of Solomon's Temple.

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

 

[montelatici]

Ha ha. They have their own vocab. You gotta read between the lines with these guys.

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

 

[Phoenall]

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

You contradict yourself in your posts when you say Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state, then use the west bank to tray and prove that inside Israel apartheid and racism are state sanctioned.

 

[montelatici]

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

You contradict yourself in your posts when you say Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state, then use the west bank to tray and prove that inside Israel apartheid and racism are state sanctioned.

Talk about a non sequitur. Do you ever read what you write to make sure it makes sense. Let's see if an analogy works with you. South Africa was non an exclusively white state during Apartheid, many non whites lived there. Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state because many non Jews live there. Get it?

 

[Phoenall]

So, hoping for a peaceful solution where both Jews and Gentiles have decent lives in Palestine is just not acceptable to you. You need to have Jewish domination or it is not acceptable. The demographics of the area are a loser for Jews in the long term why not try to come to an agreement now that Jews have the power to negotiate favorable terms? I just don't get it.

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

What about this from your link, why didn't you post the real truth instead of cherry picking only the parts that demonise Israel

The “de facto” Hamas authorities in Gaza restricted religious freedom, and the regime’s level of respect for religious freedom in law and in practice remained problematic during the year.

Since the 2007 Hamas coup in the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, has exercised de facto authority over the territory and has enforced conservative Islamic law, harassed non-Muslims, and imposed religious restrictions on women.

Shows that your fellow muslimes are the ones that are attacking the Christians and ethnically cleansing them from Palestine.

 

[montelatici]

But Mohomod, it's not the Jews that are the problem, its the Moooslems. That's why Christians and Baha'is prefer to let the Jews be in charge of the security of their holy sites rather than intolerant Muslims that cannot coexist with anybody and will destroy their sites. Maybe when the Palestinians accept the fact that Israel as a JEWISH STATE is here to stay, and not every piece of land in the Middle East needs to be another yet Islamic shithole, then perhaps there might be a chance for peace.

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

What about this from your link, why didn't you post the real truth instead of cherry picking only the parts that demonise Israel

The “de facto” Hamas authorities in Gaza restricted religious freedom, and the regime’s level of respect for religious freedom in law and in practice remained problematic during the year.

Since the 2007 Hamas coup in the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, has exercised de facto authority over the territory and has enforced conservative Islamic law, harassed non-Muslims, and imposed religious restrictions on women.

Shows that your fellow muslimes are the ones that are attacking the Christians and ethnically cleansing them from Palestine.

All it shows is that Hamas and the Jews are doing the same thing. Are you proud of that?

 

[Sally]

Israel is not an exclusively Jewish state no more than the U.S. is an exclusively Christian state. That aside your comments regarding the holy sites do not jive with what the U.S. Department of State recently reported:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians."

Report on International Religious Freedom

What about this from your link, why didn't you post the real truth instead of cherry picking only the parts that demonise Israel

The “de facto” Hamas authorities in Gaza restricted religious freedom, and the regime’s level of respect for religious freedom in law and in practice remained problematic during the year.

Since the 2007 Hamas coup in the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, has exercised de facto authority over the territory and has enforced conservative Islamic law, harassed non-Muslims, and imposed religious restrictions on women.

Shows that your fellow muslimes are the ones that are attacking the Christians and ethnically cleansing them from Palestine.

All it shows is that Hamas and the Jews are doing the same thing. Are you proud of that?

Gosh, I don't think the non Jews in Israel are being harassed. In fact, they go about their business just like everyone else -- to school, to their jobs, to do their daily errands. People can see the non Jews on Youtubes in the streets just walking along like everyone else in Israel. However, those in the boiler room like Haniya and Defeat67 just want to continually diss the Israeli Jews because this is their modus operendi.

 

[montelatici]

What about this from your link, why didn't you post the real truth instead of cherry picking only the parts that demonise Israel

The “de facto” Hamas authorities in Gaza restricted religious freedom, and the regime’s level of respect for religious freedom in law and in practice remained problematic during the year.

Since the 2007 Hamas coup in the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, has exercised de facto authority over the territory and has enforced conservative Islamic law, harassed non-Muslims, and imposed religious restrictions on women.

Shows that your fellow muslimes are the ones that are attacking the Christians and ethnically cleansing them from Palestine.

All it shows is that Hamas and the Jews are doing the same thing. Are you proud of that?

Gosh, I don't think the non Jews in Israel are being harassed. In fact, they go about their business just like everyone else -- to school, to their jobs, to do their daily errands. People can see the non Jews on Youtubes in the streets just walking along like everyone else in Israel. However, those in the boiler room like Haniya and Defeat67 just want to continually diss the Israeli Jews because this is their modus operendi.

Gosh, I don't think the non Jews in Israel are being harassed.

The U.S. State Department thinks so.