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Never again will Israel uproot Jewish settlers to placate Palestinian demands for their own land. And who in their right mind can blame Israel for that after granting the Palestinians their own Jew free Gaza only to be thanked with rocket missiles. Finally even Netanyahu is begining to understand Palestinian mentality like the surrounding Arab countries who know the Palestinians best. And when Israel learns how to treat the Palestinians like the surrounding Arab countries do, who know the Palestinians best, then there will be peace.



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There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.
 
Israel shouldn't do shit for those sub-humans.
 
I have to agree that history has proven Israel has made a terrible mistake by making peace offerings to Palestinians, building a security fence & conceding land to Palestinians so they can remain in Israel.



QUOTE=S.J.;8854177]Israel shouldn't do shit for those sub-humans.[/QUOTE]
 
There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.
Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state can be proven both historically and archaeologically. In fact the religious aspect is just backup. You walk around Israel and you will find hundreds of thousands of sites and artifacts proving the existence of an ancient Jewish people that lived and thrived in that land.
 
There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.

If most of the towns from the Sinai to the Bosporus were destroyed and half the population was killed by earthquake, it would very well seem that god had "given" them the land. God had cleared the way for them to enter and create their nation. It would be very reasonable for them to see the wall falling down and the towns destroyed by fire as an act of god.
 
The only claim the Palestinians have to the land is they have been squatting on it for generations without any deeds to it. Like I said, that's a big mistake by Israel allowing that to continue with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to the Palestinian squatters.



There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.
 
The only claim the Palestinians have to the land is they have been squatting on it for generations without any deeds to it. Like I said, that's a big mistake by Israel allowing that to continue with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to the Palestinian squatters.



There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.
From what I've seen on the news today, it's not about land for the Palestinians anymore. In their three minute attention span, it all boils down to releasing more murdering scum. WTF have they been wasting time for the past year. These people act like little kids. Time to reclaim the land and put this farce aside.
 
This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.

Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953
 
This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.

Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953
If you haven't read Micheners's novel about South African history, you might take a look at it. It's fiction albeit historical fiction and in the end gives a good description of apartheid. Once you read it you'll give up the notion that Israel employs apartheid. The book is "The Covenant".
 
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I have read "The Coevenant" and "The Power of One" (which you should read), both have convinced me that there is little difference between the treatment of non-whites by the Boers and the treatment of non-Jews by the Israelis, except that the Boers did not bomb non-White civilians with jet fighters.
 
I have read "The Coevenant" and "The Power of One" (which you should read), both have convinced me that there is little difference between the treatment of non-whites by the Boers and the treatment of non-Jews by the Israelis, except that the Boers did not bomb non-White civilians with jet fighters.

And the Israeli Jews are not going around murdering innocent people for their religious beliefs like your brethren. Funny how montelatici has had nothing to say about Assad bombing civilians, Maybe she keeps silent because the Jews aren't slaughtering civilians like is being done in Syria.
 
This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.


Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953
If you haven't read Micheners's novel about South African history, you might take a look at it. It's fiction albeit historical fiction and in the end gives a good description of apartheid. Once you read it you'll give up the notion that Israel employs apartheid. The book is "The Covenant".

She should also read "40 Days at Musa Dagh" which is also historical fiction, but Armenians keep a copy of it in their homes because they say that is just what happened. She can read what her fellow Muslims did to over one million Armenians.
 
This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.

Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953


Maybe montelatici should get together with those South Africans who have visited Israel and say that there is no Apartheid there. As for the Rev. Hedding, he actually lives in Israel and sees what is happening there all the time.

REV. MALCOLM HEDDING: THE GROSS LIE OF ?ISRAELI APARTHEID?- FROM ONE WHO EXPERIENCED THE REAL THING | RUTHFULLY YOURS
 
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Yup, one idiot, probably paid by the Israelis is more believable than all the South African christian leaders. LOL



"Christian leaders in South Africa have thrown their full support behind Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW), a global campaign to educate and mobilize the public against Israeli violations of Palestinian rights.

On Sunday, Anglican Archbishop Emeritus of Cape Town Desmond Tutu reiterated his support for IAW and for the Palestinian-led campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) on Israel.

“People who are denied their dignity and rights deserve the solidarity of their fellow human beings,” Tutu said in a statement.

“I have witnessed the racially segregated roads and housing in the Holy Land that reminded me so much of the conditions we experienced in South Africa under Apartheid,” Tutu added.

“Their humiliation is familiar to all black South Africans who were corralled and harassed and insulted and assaulted by the security forces of the Apartheid government.”

Recalling the role of BDS in ending apartheid in South Africa, Tutu said the “same issues of inequality and injustice today motivate the divestment movement trying to end Israel’s decades-long occupation of Palestinian territory and the unfair and prejudicial treatment of the Palestinian people by the Israeli government ruling over them.”

“I associate myself with the objectives of the 10th international Israeli Apartheid Week.”

Church backing

Tutu’s backing reflects much broader support among South African Christian leaders.

“We urge churches to campaign for greater awareness on all Palestinian struggles in general and the plight of Palestinian Christians in particular,” the South African Council of Churches said in the concluding statement of its conference last month.

“We also request churches to dedicate Sunday services on 16 March during the upcoming Israeli Apartheid Week campaign to reflect and pray for peace with justice in Palestine and Israel.”

The statement urged “all parties concerned to work towards a just peace and reiterated our solidarity and support for all those working towards this goal.”

The campaign group BDS South Africa published several video statements from South African church leaders."
 
This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.

Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953


Maybe montelatici should get together with those South Africans who have visited Israel and say that there is no Apartheid there. As for the Rev. Hedding, he actually lives in Israel and sees what is happening there all the time.

REV. MALCOLM HEDDING: THE GROSS LIE OF ?ISRAELI APARTHEID?- FROM ONE WHO EXPERIENCED THE REAL THING | RUTHFULLY YOURS

 
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This is a speech from the 1950s in support of white-rule in South Afirca. Notice how this fellow sounds so similar to the Israeli right or wrongers that post here. It's uncany.

"Africa south of the Equator, I shall say this without fear of reasonable contradiction: ever) millimetre of progress in all that vast area is due entirely to the White Man. You are familiar with the cry that came floating over the ocean from the West-a cry that "colonialism" is outmoded and pernicious, a cry that is being vociferously echoed by a certain gentleman in the East. (This refers to Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India.)

May I point out that African colonies are of comparatively recent date Before that time Black Africa did have independence for a thousand years and more-and what did she make of it? One problem, I admit, she did solve most effectively. There was no overpopulation. Interminable savage inter tribal wars, witchcraft, disease, famine, and even cannibalism saw to that.

Let me turn to my subject, to that part of Africa south of the Sahara which, historically, is not part of Black Africa at all - my own country. Its position is unique in Africa as its racial problem is unique in the world.

South Africa is no more the original home of its black Africans, the Bantu than it is of its white Africans. Both races went there as colonists and, what is more, as practically contemporary colonists. In some parts the Bantu arrived first, in other parts the Europeans were the first comers.
South Africa contains the only independent white nation in all Africa ~. South African nation which has no other homeland to which it could retreat; a nation which has created a highly developed modern state, and t which occupies a position of inestimable importance
South Africa is the only independent country in the world in which white * people are outnumbered by black people. Including all coloured races or peoples the proportion in Brazil is 20 to 1. In South Africa it is 1 to 4.
This brings me to the question of the future. To me there seems to be two possible lines of development: Apartheid or Partnership. Partnership means Cooperation of the individual citizens within a single community, irrespective of race.... (It) demands that there shall be no discrimination whatsoever in trade and industry, in the professions and the Public Service. Therefore, whether a man is black or a white African, must according to this policy be as irrelevant as whether in London a man is a Scotsman or an Englishman. I take it: that Partnership must also aim at the eventual disappearance of all social segregation based on race. This policy of Partnership admittedly does not envisage immediate adult suffrage. Obviously, however, the loading of the franchise in order to exclude the great majority of the Bantu could be no wore than a temporary expedient.... (In effect) "there must one day be black domination, in the sense that power must pass to the immense African majority. Need I say more to show that this policy of Partnership could, in South Africa, only mean the eventual disappearance of the white South African nation? And will you be greatly surprised if I tell you that this white nation is not prepared to commit national suicide, not even by slow poisoning? The only alternative is a policy of apartheid, the policy of separate development. The germ of this policy is inherent in almost all of our history, implanted there by the force of circumstances.... Apartheid is a policy of self preservation."


Modern History Sourcebook: A. L. Geyer: Case for Apartheid 1953


Maybe montelatici should get together with those South Africans who have visited Israel and say that there is no Apartheid there. As for the Rev. Hedding, he actually lives in Israel and sees what is happening there all the time.

REV. MALCOLM HEDDING: THE GROSS LIE OF ?ISRAELI APARTHEID?- FROM ONE WHO EXPERIENCED THE REAL THING | RUTHFULLY YOURS



Why don't you read what Rev. Hedding said he would say to this Bishop if he were face to face with him? And by the way, the Rev. Hedding actually lives in Israel while Tutu does not.
 
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There will probably be peace once the zionists realize Yahweh doesn't exist and therefore never promised them any land.

that would mean allah of the quran does not exist either since it also says god gave the land to Israel.

imagine no religion, no race, no war..... maybe centuries or millennia in the future, but not any time soon.
 

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