It is time to end our relationship with Israel

[Grau]

Genocidal? LOL!

The math argues otherwise.

Most of the planet is repulsed by Netanyahu's blatant genocidal agenda.

What's wrong with you?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Most of the planet is repulsed by Netanyahu's blatant genocidal agenda.

What's wrong with you?

Your math is weak.

You are very good at whining.

 

[Shusha]

So you're justifying terrorism now, see how messed up you are? You're saying some terrorism is right and some terrorism is wrong, but terrorism is terrorism, what a complete fool you are.

Nah, you just frame if differently based on the perpetrator of a specific action. If Israel does something, it must be terrorism. If Arabs do something, it must be "resistance".

Military leaders are military objectives in a war. Look for terrorism elsewhere.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Nah, you just frame if differently based on the perpetrator of a specific action. If Israel does something, it must be terrorism.

If Israel commits terrorism then yes, I call it terrorism.

If Arabs do something, it must be "resistance".

It might be if they're resisting a foreign occupying force on their own land.

Military leaders are military objectives in a war. Look for terrorism elsewhere.

Very well, don't come crying here next time a Houthi or Iranian missile lands in Tel-Aviv then.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If Israel commits terrorism then yes, I call it terrorism.

It might be if they're resisting a foreign occupying force on their own land.

Very well, don't come crying here next time a Houthi or Iranian missile lands in Tel-Aviv then.

Try to pull your head out of your ass. Israelis don't come crying when the Houthi or the ayatollahs attack them. They just blow up Yemen and Iran and kill their leaders. It's you who comes crying every time Israel kills another Palestinian terrorist.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Try to pull your head out of your ass. Israelis don't come crying when the Houthi or the ayatollahs attack them. They just blow up Yemen and Iran and kill their leaders. It's you who comes crying every time Israel kills another Palestinian terrorist.

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

If Israel claims that right to bomb wherever it wants whenever it wants then so can every country.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Shusha

See? I told ya; time to get your turd polish out again.

 

[Shusha]

If Israel commits terrorism then yes, I call it terrorism.

No, you define terrorism as "acts committed by Israel". Again, targeting military leaders is not an act of terrorism.

It might be if they're resisting a foreign occupying force on their own land.

And, you define resistance as "acts committed by Arabs". Again, targeting civilians is never a legitimate act of armed force.

Very well, don't come crying here next time a Houthi or Iranian missile lands in Tel-Aviv then.

No need to cry, Israel is perfectly capable of a full menu of responses. But since Israel and Iran + Houthis were not at war and had no cause to be at war, Iran and Houthi actions were belligerent acts of war. Israel is free to respond in kind.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

If Israel claims that right to bomb wherever it wants whenever it wants then so can every country.

What a ridiculous idiot you are. Israel didn't bomb Doha because a member of Hamas was there, it bombed a particular building in Doha where the leadership of Hamas, which are directing terrorist attacks against Israelis, was meeting under the protection of the Qatari government.

Israel has been clear that the leadership of Hamas will be hunted down and killed wherever they are unless the hostages are released.

 

[Shusha]

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

If the United Kingdom of Great Britain or the State of France is foolish enough to offer protection to the military leaders of a designated terrorist organization in the middle of a war, shrug...

 

[Shusha]

Shusha

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See? I told ya; time to get your turd polish out again.

Well, if the Qatari PM says it, it MUST be true.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

If Israel claims that right to bomb wherever it wants whenever it wants then so can every country.

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

Would that be like Iran bombing a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires?

 

[Correll]

I showed you answers yesterday, answers presented clearly by a Jew speaking to the UN general assembly ten years ago, but you dismissed it out of hand because you're a deranged extremist.

You got a point to make, YOU make it, don't link m to some "jew".

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well, if the Qatari PM says it, it MUST be true.

On the contrary it isn't true because he said it, he said it because its true and self evidently so.

Detonating explosives in other countries that have not militarily attacked your country, for one's own political ends is terrorism, here's the FBI's definition:

The FBI defines terrorism, domestic or international, as the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government or civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Was it lawful? No, was it use of force? Yes, was it against persons and property? Yes, did it intimidate or coerce a government? Yes, was it in furtherance or Israel's political objectives? Yes.

This is without doubt coercion of Qatar to cease all involvement ceasefire and hostage release negotiations, that's why they carried out the bombing - it is terrorism.

Since 1920 Haganah was the primary terrorist wing of the Zionists, then we see that that led to the Irgun another paramilitary terrorist organization that bombed people in Palestine years before 1948.

I mean this is easy stuff to research, anyone can go and dig it out, the state is founded on terrorism FFS.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So can we expect Israel to bomb London or Paris or Istanbul one day because they suspect a Hamas member is there?

Would that be like Iran bombing a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires?

That was clearly an act of terrorism although who orchestrated it is an open question.

 

[Shusha]

Detonating explosives in other countries that have not militarily attacked your country, for one's own political ends is terrorism

Targeting military objectives is an act of legal armed conflict, not terrorism.

terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population (or government) and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.

This is without doubt coercion of Qatar to cease all involvement ceasefire and hostage release negotiations, that's why they carried out the bombing - it is terrorism.

Hard disagree. This was the elimination of Hamas military leaders who ordered (and bragged about) committing an actual terrorist attack against civilians (illegal and immoral) within the context of war. It was in direct response to that event. It was precise and measured and, apparently, effective.

It was not directed at Qataris nor the Qatari government, as it would have been if the intent had been coercion of Qatar. It was not intended to create fear in the Qatari government nor was it an attempt to force them to submit to a particular political goal of Israel.

 

[Ringo]

I dislike conspiracy theories, but before October 7:
1. Someone was under investigation for four different corruption cases and was supposed to be removed from the post of Prime Minister of Israel, after which he would be imprisoned.
2. Egypt warned Israel a few days before the October 7 terrorist attack.
3. Despite the warning, someone sat on their ass and did nothing to prevent the attack.
4. After the attack, someone declared martial law, and now someone cannot be removed from the post of prime minister and convicted of corruption.

I am tormented by vague doubts about who exactly benefits from this war and why...

 

[Ringo]

Targeting military objectives (in another country)is an act of legal armed conflict, not terrorism.

Throughout Europe, ukrainians are planning to build weapons factories with european taxpayers' money, and I believe Russia has the right to bomb such enterprises that threaten it, just as Israel does.
Or is it possible to strike Zelensky when he is in Warsaw, for example?
A rhetorical question, of course.
“A world based on rules!”

 

[Shusha]

Throughout Europe, ukrainians are planning to build weapons factories with european taxpayers' money, and I believe Russia has the right to bomb such enterprises that threaten it, just as Israel does.
Or is it possible to strike Zelensky when he is in Warsaw, for example?
A rhetorical question, of course.
“A world based on rules!”

Noting that you altered my original quote from:

Targeting military objectives is an act of legal armed conflict, not terrorism.

to:

Targeting military objectives (in another country)is an act of legal armed conflict, not terrorism.

My intent was to establish a working definition of terrorism that demonstrated the inconsistency of another poster's argument. Use of armed force against military objectives is not equivalent to terrorism. Just so, direct attacks by Russian forces on Ukrainian military objectives is use of armed force against a military objective, and not terrorism. (With reminder that Russia is the belligerent actor here.)

It is certainly possible for Russia to strike Zelensky in a third-party country. It would be a violation of the sovereignty of that third country and may be considered an act of belligerence (war) against that third party country, giving that country reasonable grounds to retaliate. The question is whether the likely outcome of that decision would further or detract from Russia's war goals.

I'd also argue that offering harbor and protection to military objectives may not be in the best interests of the third-party country, depending on the context.

 

[Roudy]

If they were really "lies", one of you traitorous and genocidal Zionist shills would be able to refute them.

So far, none of your ilk has even tried.

Go figure.

Have you finally washed your inflatable Netanyahu sex doll yet?

Said the Hamas operative. Zionism is a beautiful thing, the Islamist animals called Hamas who want to build a Palestine that never existed on the body of dead Jews in their own ancestral and religious holy land, isn’t.

You are like a demon worshipper in a satanic cult.