It is not collusion - it is a Russian nesting doll - (A Putin Matryoshka) - Trump Voters are inside

[marvin martian]

It is not collusion - it is a Russian nesting doll - (A Putin Matryoshka) - Trump Voters are willfully inside and they are unwittingly helping the murderous dictator and war criminal destroy western multicultural democratic institutions world wide. I’m beginning to believe the abandonment of multicultural liberal western democracy to have the false sense of security of white run authoritarianism is taking place in the world before our very eyes. It is sad to see.
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The Mueller Report did not find a crime of TRUMP/PUTIN collusion in Trump’s rise to the presidency in 2016 or thereafter. It is not a crime to be sympathetic or appreciative of one very special and white, right wing conservative authoritarian, Christian nationalist, strong father type leader, like Vladimir Putin.
The Matryoshkas usually have eight dolls.
THE Putin doll has, in terms of usefulness to Putin, ,a Trump Doll at about five dolls in. It has American politicians like Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky of the Ayn Rand libertarian, anti-democracy breed, and religious leaders such as Franklin Graham at little doll seven.
The Putin doll has USMB writers like Mashmont and Correll in the tiniest doll number eight, but the ingrained problem is there are fifty million of them in America and there does not appear to be a way to get them out or ever get them to realize they are stuck inside Putin and do not want out. They feel safe in there everlastingly afraid of BLM and ANTIFA atheists and minorities and liberals who believe in democracy and vote.

Should we be pessimistic about the future of sustained liberal multicultural democracy and the freedom we’ve had here in America for nearly two and a half centuries or will Trumpism’s white American First political movement die a miserable death if Ukrainians push Putin’s army back into Russia, and Putin is dethroned and convicted of his war crimes and sins against humanity?

Talk me down from my pessimism, please. I have never lost optimism for America like thus before.

Putin is driving global recession, inflation and food shortages and major disruption to advanced multicultural democratic nations Disorder and economic chaos and massive population resettlements provide favor to right wing authoritarian leaning politicians whereever free and fair elections are held. Yes Putin still hold the best hands for disruption and chaos in the world. Trump

TRUMP VOTERS ARE WAY TOO EMBEDDED IN PUTIN’s Matryoshka for confidence and comfort. American continued complacency by a large segment of the un-Trumped population couid spell the end of our democracy as we know it.

LOL! Do you have a "Make the USSR Great Again" hat, too?

 

[struth]

It is not collusion - it is a Russian nesting doll - (A Putin Matryoshka) - Trump Voters are willfully inside and they are unwittingly helping the murderous dictator and war criminal destroy western multicultural democratic institutions world wide. I’m beginning to believe the abandonment of multicultural liberal western democracy to have the false sense of security of white run authoritarianism is taking place in the world before our very eyes. It is sad to see.
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The Mueller Report did not find a crime of TRUMP/PUTIN collusion in Trump’s rise to the presidency in 2016 or thereafter. It is not a crime to be sympathetic or appreciative of one very special and white, right wing conservative authoritarian, Christian nationalist, strong father type leader, like Vladimir Putin.
The Matryoshkas usually have eight dolls.
THE Putin doll has, in terms of usefulness to Putin, ,a Trump Doll at about five dolls in. It has American politicians like Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky of the Ayn Rand libertarian, anti-democracy breed, and religious leaders such as Franklin Graham at little doll seven.
The Putin doll has USMB writers like Mashmont and Correll in the tiniest doll number eight, but the ingrained problem is there are fifty million of them in America and there does not appear to be a way to get them out or ever get them to realize they are stuck inside Putin and do not want out. They feel safe in there everlastingly afraid of BLM and ANTIFA atheists and minorities and liberals who believe in democracy and vote.

Should we be pessimistic about the future of sustained liberal multicultural democracy and the freedom we’ve had here in America for nearly two and a half centuries or will Trumpism’s white American First political movement die a miserable death if Ukrainians push Putin’s army back into Russia, and Putin is dethroned and convicted of his war crimes and sins against humanity?

Talk me down from my pessimism, please. I have never lost optimism for America like thus before.

Putin is driving global recession, inflation and food shortages and major disruption to advanced multicultural democratic nations Disorder and economic chaos and massive population resettlements provide favor to right wing authoritarian leaning politicians whereever free and fair elections are held. Yes Putin still hold the best hands for disruption and chaos in the world. Trump

TRUMP VOTERS ARE WAY TOO EMBEDDED IN PUTIN’s Matryoshka for confidence and comfort. American continued complacency by a large segment of the un-Trumped population couid spell the end of our democracy as we know it.

only one modern President promised to be "more flexible" if he won....that was Obama. Not Trump.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Putin is behind the whole thing,

No! Putin is behind undermining democracy in the entire world. And there is evidence to support the charges. From November 3 to January 6, 2021 Trump was behind undermining American democracy in a self-coup attempt to overturn the free and fair election that he lost.

Putin was not behind what Trump was doing as the title of this thread explains. It was not collusion. It’s simply the fact that Trump was and still is the leader of the Republican Party and he and his partners in crime has the same ends in mind as Vladimir Putin. ITS just that it means are different and fortunately for America on January 6 vice president Mike Pence did not go along with the Republican plot to hold onto the TRUMP presidency in defiance of our Constitution.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

only one modern President promised to be "more flexible" if he won....that was Obama. Not Trump.

Flexible about what? Do you even know what the conversation was about?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

What has Biden done, more or the same for more than a year until he was forced to act due to overwhelming demand from the citizens of this nation to get off the crapper and start providing aid to Ukraine.

ON February 23 this year even the Ukrainians were doubtful that Putin would go for a full-scale invasion and attack Kyiv.

The day before the full-scale invasion, Trump Called Putin’s “liberation of Dunbass” with tanks and calling them peacekeepers, A stroke of genius on Putin’s part

So with your 2020 in hindsight Putin expert vision you attack the leader of our democracy for not providing heavy weapons to the Ukrainians sooner. I’m sure had Biden done that, as a Republican, you would’ve been pissing and moaning that Biden was provoking World War III and the weapons supplies were the spark.

You should know what is obvious that on February 23 before the invasion started it was thought by many people experts that Putin‘s modern army could take all of Ukraine in a matter of days. President Zelenskyy might flee the country. The Ukrainian armed forces we’re never tested against the full onslaught of an 150,000 man Russian army coming across the border like Hitler when he invaded Poland in 1939. Had President Biden, as you suggest, given the Ukrainian army everything it wanted and missiles m, tanks fighter planes, and then Putin invades and captures all of it, you would’ve had a field day ripping Biden a new asshole for being so stupid to send an untested army all that stuff? I realize you can lie, but it’s kind of obvious because you condemn Biden for making a simple gaffe here and there as your indirect support of Putin’s quest to destroy western style liberal democracy.

 

[struth]

Flexible about what? Do you even know what the conversation was about?

about letting Putin recreate the USSR.

 

[marvin martian]

ON February 23 this year even the Ukrainians were doubtful that Putin would go for a full-scale invasion and attack Kyiv.

The day before the full-scale invasion, Trump Called Putin’s “liberation of Dunbass” with tanks and calling them peacekeepers, A stroke of genius on Putin’s part

So with your 2020 in hindsight Putin expert vision you attack the leader of our democracy for not providing heavy weapons to the Ukrainians sooner. I’m sure had Biden done that, as a Republican, you would’ve been pissing and moaning that Biden was provoking World War III and the weapons supplies were the spark.

You should know what is obvious that on February 23 before the invasion started it was thought by many people experts that Putin‘s modern army could take all of Ukraine in a matter of days. President Zelenskyy might flee the country. The Ukrainian armed forces we’re never tested against the full onslaught of an 150,000 man Russian army coming across the border like Hitler when he invaded Poland in 1939. Had President Biden, as you suggest, given the Ukrainian army everything it wanted and missiles m, tanks fighter planes, and then Putin invades and captures all of it, you would’ve had a field day ripping Biden a new asshole for being so stupid to send an untested army all that stuff? I realize you can lie, but it’s kind of obvious because you condemn Biden for making a simple gaffe here and there as your indirect support of Putin’s quest to destroy western style liberal democracy.

You "forgot" to mention Joe Biden told Putin a "minor incursion" into Ukraine was ok.

Don't worry, though, Joe Biden also forgot he said that.

 

[struth]

ON February 23 this year even the Ukrainians were doubtful that Putin would go for a full-scale invasion and attack Kyiv.

The day before the full-scale invasion, Trump Called Putin’s “liberation of Dunbass” with tanks and calling them peacekeepers, A stroke of genius on Putin’s part

So with your 2020 in hindsight Putin expert vision you attack the leader of our democracy for not providing heavy weapons to the Ukrainians sooner. I’m sure had Biden done that, as a Republican, you would’ve been pissing and moaning that Biden was provoking World War III and the weapons supplies were the spark.

You should know what is obvious that on February 23 before the invasion started it was thought by many people experts that Putin‘s modern army could take all of Ukraine in a matter of days. President Zelenskyy might flee the country. The Ukrainian armed forces we’re never tested against the full onslaught of an 150,000 man Russian army coming across the border like Hitler when he invaded Poland in 1939. Had President Biden, as you suggest, given the Ukrainian army everything it wanted and missiles m, tanks fighter planes, and then Putin invades and captures all of it, you would’ve had a field day ripping Biden a new asshole for being so stupid to send an untested army all that stuff? I realize you can lie, but it’s kind of obvious because you condemn Biden for making a simple gaffe here and there as your indirect support of Putin’s quest to destroy western style liberal democracy.

It was genius on Putin's part to suggest he was sending in "peacemakers" - Putin had successfully played Xiden like a fiddle up until then, go the EU allies disliking and not trusting him....he was really controlling the narrative

now, even the Western world, is saying it's a win if Putin only gets that section of land that he declared independant to begin with....

Here's the actual audio of Trump: Trump calls Putin’s strategy ‘genius’

 

[NotfooledbyW]

It was genius on Putin's part to suggest he was sending in "peacemakers"

Putin was lying. Trump and you call Putin being a liar, a genius. He was setting up his plan to commit atrocities and genocide and territory grabbing against innocent civilians. Hillary was right you are deplorable. Biden was right to share the Intel weeks before that Putin was planning a full scale invasion on Kiev. Biden was right and Trump was an idiot to call Putin a genius by taking Dunbass. You can’t spin that any other way except by lying.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

ou "forgot" to mention Joe Biden told Putin a "minor incursion" into Ukraine was ok.

Provide the full quote in context. Liar.

 

[struth]

Putin was lying. Trump and you call Putin being a liar, a genius. He was setting up his plan to commit atrocities and genocide and territory grabbing against innocent civilians. Hillary was right you are deplorable. Biden was right to share the Intel weeks before that Putin was planning a full scale invasion on Kiev. Biden was right and Trump was an idiot to call Putin a genius by taking Dunbass. You can’t spin that any other way except by lying.

yeah, don't disagree he was lying....but you can be an evil genius...happens often in politics

Clinton was wrong and so was Xiden to "reset" relations with Putin...for whatever reason.

They were wrong, to mock folks in the GOP who correctly called Putin a geopolitical threat.

"“I mean, we have disagreements with Russia, but they’re united with us..." Joey Xiden

 

[NotfooledbyW]

but you can be an evil genius...happens often in politics

Trump didn’t say he was an “evil” genius. Trump said it was genius to invade another nation with tanks and call it peacekeeping.

And furthermore, what Putin is doing is not “politics”… It’s genocide it’s terrorism it’s military aggression. Your ignorance of reality is amazing. Hillary was right, you Trumo voters are deplorable.

 

[struth]

Trump didn’t say he was an “evil” genius. Trump said it was genius to invade another nation with tanks and call it peacekeeping.

And furthermore, what Putin is doing is not “politics”… It’s genocide it’s terrorism it’s military aggression. Your ignorance of reality is amazing. Hillary was right, you Trumo voters are deplorable.

yeah he said it was genuiis to call it that, and laughed at the idea that he called it that

no it’s politics. military agression, certainly, but it’s politics…geopolitical, but politics none the less…we warned you all, and he played you all.

 

[22lcidw]

LOL! Do you have a "Make the USSR Great Again" hat, too?

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That photo looks like they just got done signing another 5 year plan.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

we warned you all,.

Isn’t Trump the head of your Party, cult, whatever? Trump said with Putin standing right next to him that he had no reason to doubt what Putin says when US Intel says the opposite. So how was anybody but Trump the one being played by Putin? Biden believes our Intel to be true .. not Putin’s lying ass words.

.. he played you all.

That is absurd. There is no rationale for your claim.

 

[struth]

Isn’t Trump the head of your Party, cult, whatever? Trump said with Putin standing right next to him that he had no reason to doubt what Putin says when US Intel says the opposite. So how was anybody but Trump the one being played by Putin? Biden believes our Intel to be true .. not Putin’s lying ass words.



That is absurd. There is no rationale for your claim.

isn’t xiden the head of your party? the more flexible with putin party?

 

[whitehall]

Trump voters?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

isn’t xiden the head of your party? the more flexible with putin party?

You still don’t know what the “flexible” comment was about, don’t you?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

isn’t xiden the head of your party?

Yes, and Putin’s preference for POTUS in 2020 was Trump just as it was in 2016. Why do you think that is?

 

[easyt65]

It is time for all dumbass Trump-haters to let go of their insane denial that Hillary Cllinton started the whole 'Russian Collusuon' BS, that Obama took it over, his criminal treasonous administration, and Commrade Biden was part of all of it. The evidence is undeniable now, and anyone still denying it is a willful Democrat Party TOOL!

These same tools have bought into the ideas that biological sexual orientation is based on 'feelings', that males can have babies, that virtually everything their pansy-asses are offended by (any other opinion than their own) is 'RACIST', and that Constitutionally protected FREE SPEECH is a plot to only allow white males to speak their minds...

WTF?!

If you find yourself in one of these categories please STFU, seek mental help, and hide in your basement like Joe did his entire Presidential campaign.

Enough is enough!