It is better that this woman was raped, than that she use a gun on her hip to stop it...right?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

With our obscene ability to arm ourselves in this country, women are still raped every day. This argument is a low argument to emotion. I thought you didn't like that?
And since you live in the United States of America, it would be nice if you would stop posting every gun crime in England.

How many armed women were raped?

 

[2aguy]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

All garbage.
You live in England mr brave Star Wars?
One example.
Their rates are way lower than ours.
What do we have ? 500 mass shootings a year ?
Don't mention of our 20000 rapes a year?

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

 

[2aguy]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

What is your fixation with England? They have far fewer gun related deaths than we do. They are doing something right, while we kill thousands per year.

No..they aren't doing anything right.....they are now about to experience an increase in crime the way we did in the 1960s.......their society was set back by World War 2...and now they are about to catch up...their criminals are younger now, and they are shooting each other more.....and now, their people have nothing to use to stop their criminals...that is why their country is so more violent than ours is...

Bullshit. They have a handful of gun related deaths, we have bodies stacked to the ceiling, You're wrong.

No....you are wrong.....they banned guns, they are an island and their gun crime rates are skyrocketing....they have imported violent, drug gangs......and they need guns....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

50 or 60 gun related deaths per year compared to our 8,124. Are you nuts?

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Logic dictates the woman would still be raped and her gun stolen unless she knows martial arts.

Locally, a man was just convicted of murder for shooting his ex with her own gun. It was DV. He climbed in her bedroom window and she got off one shot, winged him, before he took the gun and killed her with it.

I'd sure like to see your cite on this. Otherwise it's just bs.

I'm just going to take offense that you think I made it up. In other words, FUCK YOU.

So in other words you did make it up and can't prove it to be real.

Depending how caught off guard she was and how quickly this guy took physical control....would she have had time to get to a gun? What if he had a weapon out already...

What if what if what if. I'd rather her be armed and have a chance to defend herself, you want a defenseless victim. We understand.

You're a piece of shit, but here it is. Don't skip the first link, since it has more details about how he used her gun.
Jury finds Robert Burton guilty of murder in death of ex-girlfriend

If she had been a better shot...

 

[BULLDOG]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

All garbage.
You live in England mr brave Star Wars?
One example.
Their rates are way lower than ours.
What do we have ? 500 mass shootings a year ?
Don't mention of our 20000 rapes a year?

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

Yes, I'm sure it is disappointing for you that their tactics are working, and ours aren't. Poor crazy baby.

 

[2aguy]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

All garbage.
You live in England mr brave Star Wars?
One example.
Their rates are way lower than ours.
What do we have ? 500 mass shootings a year ?
Don't mention of our 20000 rapes a year?

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

Yes, I'm sure it is disappointing for you that their tactics are working, and ours aren't. Poor crazy baby.

Yeah...what tactics of theirs are working when 10 years after they banned and confiscated guns, their gun crime rate went up 89%....has gone up 23% last year across the country, and is up 42% in London, the capitol city of their gun free island?

How exactly are they successful?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

5 pages and liberals still would rather women were raped than the rapist harmed.

 

[BULLDOG]

What is your fixation with England? They have far fewer gun related deaths than we do. They are doing something right, while we kill thousands per year.

No..they aren't doing anything right.....they are now about to experience an increase in crime the way we did in the 1960s.......their society was set back by World War 2...and now they are about to catch up...their criminals are younger now, and they are shooting each other more.....and now, their people have nothing to use to stop their criminals...that is why their country is so more violent than ours is...

Bullshit. They have a handful of gun related deaths, we have bodies stacked to the ceiling, You're wrong.

No....you are wrong.....they banned guns, they are an island and their gun crime rates are skyrocketing....they have imported violent, drug gangs......and they need guns....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

50 or 60 gun related deaths per year compared to our 8,124. Are you nuts?

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

 

[2aguy]

5 pages and liberals still would rather women were raped than the rapist harmed.

Yeah.....you noticed that......? Funny how they don't even try to deny it......

 

[2aguy]

No..they aren't doing anything right.....they are now about to experience an increase in crime the way we did in the 1960s.......their society was set back by World War 2...and now they are about to catch up...their criminals are younger now, and they are shooting each other more.....and now, their people have nothing to use to stop their criminals...that is why their country is so more violent than ours is...

Bullshit. They have a handful of gun related deaths, we have bodies stacked to the ceiling, You're wrong.

No....you are wrong.....they banned guns, they are an island and their gun crime rates are skyrocketing....they have imported violent, drug gangs......and they need guns....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

50 or 60 gun related deaths per year compared to our 8,124. Are you nuts?

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

Wrong....according to the FBI there were (updated stat) 9,778 people murdered in 2015.....that means 26 people were murdered, not 93...the rest are suicides, and they don't count.

Of the 26, 70-80% are criminals murdered by other criminals, not normal people ......so that brings it down to... 5.2 a day....

And you keep trying to hide the fact that their gun control laws are not stopping their rapid increase in gun violence........while our gun violence rates are going down, as more of us own and carry guns...

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

Watch this folks...this is how to make a complete assclown out of a gun grabber in one sentence..........

So Bullshit, how many people were killed by drunk drivers and texting drivers during the SAME period?
.
.
.
.


(We don't even have to go into how many babies were killed during that same time)

 

[BULLDOG]

All garbage.
You live in England mr brave Star Wars?
One example.
Their rates are way lower than ours.
What do we have ? 500 mass shootings a year ?
Don't mention of our 20000 rapes a year?

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

Yes, I'm sure it is disappointing for you that their tactics are working, and ours aren't. Poor crazy baby.

Yeah...what tactics of theirs are working when 10 years after they banned and confiscated guns, their gun crime rate went up 89%....has gone up 23% last year across the country, and is up 42% in London, the capitol city of their gun free island?

How exactly are they successful?

We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. That is success. You really want your percentages to be the only thing considered.. Percentages don't always give an accurate picture. This is one time they don't.

 

[2aguy]

In Britain, they have taken guns away from law abiding people.....and now their gun crime rate has gone through the roof, and their violent crimes, like rape....are going through the roof.......

And according to anti gunners here on U.S. message...and everywhere else....it is better that women be raped, and possibly murdered, than that they should have the option of using a concealed or open carried gun to stop that rape......

This woman is in Britain...she got off of a London Bus....and was raped....according to anti gunners, this is better than if she had a gun and used it to drive off, capture, injure or kill her attacker...right?

Since they do not believe anyone should carry a gun, this is the preferred outcome....right?

Young woman raped after getting off late-night bus

London.

The victim, aged in her 20s, had got off the bus and was walking down an alleyway when she was attacked from behind and raped, police said.

The incident happened just after midnight as the woman made her way from Millwood Road to Brantwood Road in St Paul's Cray, Bromley.


DC James White, who leads the investigation, said: "This incident took place in a secluded area, and the attack has left the woman traumatised by her ordeal.

All garbage.
You live in England mr brave Star Wars?
One example.
Their rates are way lower than ours.
What do we have ? 500 mass shootings a year ?
Don't mention of our 20000 rapes a year?

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

Yes, I'm sure it is disappointing for you that their tactics are working, and ours aren't. Poor crazy baby.

Okay...you have had your say in page after page...

Now..be brave, put on your big boy pants.....and answer the question...

Which is your prefered outcome...that the woman use a gun to stop her own rape and murder....or that she be raped and murdered?

Come on...be brave, stand by what you believe......

 

[2aguy]

No...we don't have 500 mass shootings a year...we had 6 last year, with 71 people murdered......on guy in Nice, France killed 89 people with a rental Truck.

And Britain has gun crime and it is getting worse each year.....so far they just shoot each other, without killing....that is soon going to change....

While gun related deaths still happen in England, only an idiot would think their ways of preventing them aren't far superior to ours.

Gun violence rare in U.K. compared to U.S.
The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development, a multinational organization based in Switzerland.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.

They haven't prevented them....their criminals simply don't commit murder as often as our criminals do...what about that do you not understand...they have guns, they use guns, they don't murder with them...yet.....but as link after link shows....they have cut their police, they have hamstrung their police with political correctness, and their young males are becoming more and more violent on top of the fact they are importing violent drug gangs into their country.....

And their gun crime rate is going up...a lot, every single year...how long do you think they can get away with massive gun crime before the bodies start to fall?

Yes, I'm sure it is disappointing for you that their tactics are working, and ours aren't. Poor crazy baby.

Yeah...what tactics of theirs are working when 10 years after they banned and confiscated guns, their gun crime rate went up 89%....has gone up 23% last year across the country, and is up 42% in London, the capitol city of their gun free island?

How exactly are they successful?

We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. That is success. You really want your percentages to be the only thing considered.. Percentages don't always give an accurate picture. This is one time they don't.

No.....I want the truth, the facts and the reality of their gun control law failure to be the issue.....you want to pretend that their crime number is frozen in amber, never to change....

Our gun violence rates were through the roof in the 1960s...and didn't start to go down until the 1990s when gun laws were relaxed...

They are at the point we were at in the 1960s.........and they don't have guns to stop the wave of violence about to sweep their country....

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Wrong....according to the FBI there were (updated stat) 9,778 people murdered in 2015.....that means 26 people were murdered, not 93...the rest are suicides, and they don't count.

Of the 26, 70-80% are criminals murdered by other criminals, not normal people ......so that brings it down to... 5.2 a day....

And you keep trying to hide the fact that their gun control laws are not stopping their rapid increase in gun violence........while our gun violence rates are going down, as more of us own and carry guns...

Wait....are you saying gun grabbing liberals would lie and distort the truth ????

 

[BULLDOG]

Bullshit. They have a handful of gun related deaths, we have bodies stacked to the ceiling, You're wrong.

No....you are wrong.....they banned guns, they are an island and their gun crime rates are skyrocketing....they have imported violent, drug gangs......and they need guns....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

50 or 60 gun related deaths per year compared to our 8,124. Are you nuts?

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

Wrong....according to the FBI there were (updated stat) 9,778 people murdered in 2015.....that means 26 people were murdered, not 93...the rest are suicides, and they don't count.

Of the 26, 70-80% are criminals murdered by other criminals, not normal people ......so that brings it down to... 5.2 a day....

And you keep trying to hide the fact that their gun control laws are not stopping their rapid increase in gun violence........while our gun violence rates are going down, as more of us own and carry guns...

So you don't think they are gun related deaths? Quit being so childish.

 

[BULLDOG]

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

Watch this folks...this is how to make a complete assclown out of a gun grabber in one sentence..........

So Bullshit, how many people were killed by drunk drivers and texting drivers during the SAME period?
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(We don't even have to go into how many babies were killed during that same time)

Watch this folks. This crazy thinks he can change the subject, and nobody will notice. He's pretty dumb, isn't he?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

So you don't think they are gun related deaths? Quit being so childish.

The VAST majority of gun related deaths are......

1). SUICIDES

2). GANG ON GANG VIOLENCE.

Take those out and the gun deaths become negligible

But NEVER expect an imbecile lefty to admit that Inconvenient truth

 

[2aguy]

No....you are wrong.....they banned guns, they are an island and their gun crime rates are skyrocketing....they have imported violent, drug gangs......and they need guns....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

50 or 60 gun related deaths per year compared to our 8,124. Are you nuts?

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

An average of 93 people here are killed every day with a gun. They had 1760 over 2 years. We kill more in 2 1/2 weeks than they kill in 2 years. Give it up idiot.

Wrong....according to the FBI there were (updated stat) 9,778 people murdered in 2015.....that means 26 people were murdered, not 93...the rest are suicides, and they don't count.

Of the 26, 70-80% are criminals murdered by other criminals, not normal people ......so that brings it down to... 5.2 a day....

And you keep trying to hide the fact that their gun control laws are not stopping their rapid increase in gun violence........while our gun violence rates are going down, as more of us own and carry guns...

So you don't think they are gun related deaths? Quit being so childish.

Suicide is not gun murder...but by hiding suicides in with gun murder you are lying when you post.

Japan and South Korea have absolute gun control...only their criminals and cops can have guns...and their suicide rates are higher than ours.......so guns are not the issue...and can't be counted for your argument. Gun murder is 70-80% criminal on criminal...which means we have about 1,200 completely innocent people murdered with guns....and that is 3.2 people murdered a day in a country of over 320,000,000

And each year Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop criminals.....that is 4,109 times a day lives are saved and crimes are stopped...

Can you tell which number is bigger?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Watch this folks. This crazy thinks he can change the subject, and nobody will notice. He's pretty dumb, isn't he?

ANYONE who presents facts that don't fit the communists agenda (or is Christian) is labeled a crazy.....

As much shit as you're blowing out your ass you've never even come CLOSE to being on topic...keep trying